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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    ^ The only parts about the Jacksons I believe comes from Katherine's lawyer Ribera, who's had accurate info about the Jacksons over this summer.

    All the other stuff seems obviously from Schaffel and people like that, nobody I'd ever give any mind to even if they said Mike had vitiligo, was innocent, blah blah, the only kind of crap I'd believe from them would be their silence. I imagine the anonymous unidentified sources he has for some things are even worse.

    And I found it amazing Randall would use that TMZ source about Paris/Janet fighting, even when both of them had ages ago put that to rest. It shows he just liked the trashiness of it all too much to resist, which speaks volumes about the rest of his stuff.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    I never heard of the Mark Wahlberg story & MJ after September 2001

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/11/michae...ony-escape-jet

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    And more:

    Michael Jackson
    Fought Mark Wahlberg
    Over 9/11 Escape Jet


    Whoever is more famous, gets the private jet ... so said Sony, when Michael Jackson and Mark Wahlberg came to verbal blows over who could use the record label's ride to escape the aftermath of 9/11 -- and MJ won.

    According to a new book called "Untouchable" by Randall Sullivan ... Michael, his kids and several relatives hightailed it to White Plains, NY a few days after the Twin Towers were hit in order to catch a private plane back to L.A.

    But according to Sullivan, when M.J. arrived he was confronted by Mark Wahlberg and HIS entourage ... who were also waiting to use Sony's sweet ride.

    Sullivan says the duo exchanged verbal blows over who got the plane ... until Sony honchos sent word down that M.J. (as the bigger celeb) was the victor.

    Sullivan says Jackson eventually changed his mind at the last minute and wanted to get to L.A. by bus ... so his entourage flew without him. The book claims Jackson then changed his mind again and sent his mother and some relatives on the bus -- and Sony was forced to send a second plane.

    The moral of the story is to work for Sony ... they had TWO planes!!!

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/11/michae...#ixzz2BxYaK9uk

    Mark Wahlberg
    Michael Jackson, 9/11
    Plane Story Is BS

    EXCLUSIVE
    It's an amazing story -- Michael Jackson and Mark Wahlberg fighting over a private plane in the days after 9/11. The only problem ... IT'S JUST NOT TRUE ... this according to sources close to Wahlberg.

    A new book, entitled "Untouchable," recounts the tale of MJ and MW both jockeying for a Sony private jet. Sony eventually let MJ have it, claims the book.

    But sources close to Wahlberg tell TMZ the whole thing is a work of fiction. We're told Mark had no need for a plane from Sony to fly back to Los Angeles because he had his own.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathy MJ View Post
    Yes, I remember reading about this story that Michael was practicing and fell and broke his nose from a pretty much credible source, but don't remember which one.

    And Sullivan's source for this hotel room story is Marc Schaffel. A very credible person don't you think?
    It is just the way that Sullivan analyzed the incident to form a conclusion that irritates me, since anyone who does not have a key to the room will be lost. Because Michael is lost does not mean he cannot handle his life. That is my point, not whether the source is credible. Anyway I do not know why I am irritated, since I should know that they will take any simple incident and turn it into something to show how Michael was psychologically & socially lacking.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    Quote Originally Posted by la_cienega View Post
    Michael's first nose job was either in late 1978 or early 1979. Not 1980. The "nose jar" story is from Adrian McManus, someone who Michael sued in the 90s and has even been caught stealing from her own young nieces and nephews.

    He says Michael moved into Neverland in 1990, Michael bought Neverland in 1987 and moved in in early 1988.


    Roger Friedman is embarrassing himself trying to show Randall up:

    All these leeches and fantasy fiction writers really are living it up.

    ^^I agree with your whole post. The nose was done in the 70's initially and the 2nd one was done because of an injury.

    If we go through that book with a fine tooth comb we will find several sensationalized untruths. It could be a college thesis to read each "fact" and make notes next to it to show the reader what the actual story is.

    About Roger, well they are all from the same cloth. Roger is trying to show up Sullivan and then laments that Sullivan did not talk to Brown. Is Roger on crack? They are all the same: Roger, Sullivan Brown, Jones, Jermaine. You can also add Gest and Schaffel to that list. It is just a question of which of the worst is the less harmful.

    As we said there is truth about the incidents he writes about like issues surrounding MSG, Michael having surgery, people searching his home, but the problem is that the details are filled with lies and written in a manner to show up everyone in the book as greedy, psychos, etc., including Michael. We have only seen excerpts for the book, so can you imagine how much more junk the 700 pages have in them!!

    They are beginning to cut each other's throats trying to see who could write the worst story about Michael.
    If I had twitter I would tweet Roger over and over to take Sullivan to court if he feels Sullivan ripped off his story and stop fighting on the computer. They are all a bunch of cowards. How brave it is to write a bunch of lies after the person is no longer here to defend himself. One wonders why Sullivan did not write this book before 09.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    I am no fan of the Jacksons. But some of the stuff about them in that book sounds like garbage to me. Stories that were debunked a long time ago are suddenly re-appearing in the book as if they are fact. The whole thing is an absolute mess from top to bottom. If I were the Jacksons, I would waste no time in filing a big fat lawsuit. The Jacksons would of course say that the book is full of lies if they were to release a statement. So they need to let the public know the truth about themselves and take this trash-fest collection book business to court because everything will be made public sooner or later via the media. If the Jacksons ignore this, it's not going to go away. It will undoubtedly get much worse, in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    ^^ So now we have the friends of Mark Wahlberg saying the story is BS. OK Wahlberg join all the others who were maligned in this book and let's go to court. That is the only way to deal with the Sullivans. Of course he will claim innocence and say based on the Shield he cannot say who his source is and it is not his fault if a source told him it was the truth. Hopefully we will have 150 people end up in a class action against Sullivan and have him pay settlements. That would be great since he may end up with only $8.50.

    King of Pop By the end of the week more people will show up saying it is all lies.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    I have the book and reading it. It's such a crappy book filled with mistakes. He calls Aldo Cascio as Eddie all through the book. He says TJ has 3 sons, he doesn't. Has Mark Lester's paternity claims, a lot of talk about plastic surgery, says Michael is a virgin and so on. This is not a good book for anyone.
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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    What did he say about the allegations? I am just curious.
    Does he speak about Franck Branca?
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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Schaffel? "Very credible"?????? No!

    Back in 2006 Schaffel made insinuations that Michael was a pedo, just to try to make him settle with him in a court case. I hope you don't consider such a person very credible.
    No lol. I should have made clear that I was being sarcastic. Sorry.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    Beginning of the book, from Amazon sample:
    http://www.mediafire.com/view/?cb4vgam9va3x8gb

    The whole ebook is out on Tuesday.
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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    Well if Ivy has it and is reading it, I am hoping less fans buy it because Ivy will surely highlight the details.

    They really need to work on that law to protect the dead.

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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    :wtf: :perrin:
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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Schaffel? "Very credible"?????? No!

    Back in 2006 Schaffel made insinuations that Michael was a pedo, just to try to make him settle with him in a court case. I hope you don't consider such a person very credible.
    Do you have a link or anything where he said that? I never heard him speaking bad of Michael. Neither have I heard him making things up. His story here in the first chapter is pretty much aligned with what Wiesner wrote in his book. I don't see any screaming lies (except that he mistakes Aldo for Eddie, but he could have forgotten - too many kids in the Cascio family, I don't blame him).

    I don't exactly know what to think of Schaffel. I know he was a porn director and he sued Michael at one point, but as far as I understand, Michael really owed him money. It's unfortunate that it came down to a lawsuit, but it wasn't all Schaffel's fault, let's put it that way. And in the end, Schaffel did a lot of good things for Michael: What More Can I Give, Take II, PHM and then MJ Commemorated which was a decent tribute. Actually, if we look back, 3 out of 6 documentaries that have been made about Michael (featuring Michael) by present moment were done by Schaffel, and all three were good for Michael and appreciated by fans. So why do fans so wholeheartedly dislike him?

    On a different note, his memories of the Bashir documentary and November 18 are heartbreaking :(
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    Default Re: Randall Sullivan's new book "Untouchable" Tabloid Mess [Threads merged]

    ^^

    The source of Roger's story here is Schaffel:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202306,00.html

    It's obvious that he was the source because he and his lawyer were making insinuations about that alleged $300,000 in court and court documents as well. Also about Michael's sexuality:

    "In earlier court papers, attorney King said that if Jackson made this claim, Schaffel would reveal "their intimate discussions" and discuss "Jackson's sexual proclivities."
    http://blogcritics.org/culture/artic...-bogus-claims/

    (If you are interested in what was going on at the time also read the comments below the above article, because in them fans do a good job calling out the article's author and Schaffel.)

    Earlier Schaffel claimed he had damaging tapes about Michael talking about his sexuality. Later (of course, because there were no such tapes) he changed his story to "intimate discussions" between them.

    Later in court it turned out that the story about $300,000 had no basis in reality. He clearly made this claim, as well as making insinuations about Michael's sexuality to try to extort Michael, put pressure on him and make him settle with him. It's very transparent in Roger's article as well, when he finishes his story by saying:

    "The Schaffel case continues Thursday in Santa Monica, although I cannot understand why Jackson doesn’t borrow the money and settle out of court. More testimony in this direction, no matter how oblique, cannot be good for him."
    It also came out during that trial that Schaffel stole money from Michael.


    You still think Schaffel is trustworthy and never did anything harmful to Michael?
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