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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    In my opinion Paul McCartney is responsible of many thing said of MJ and Yoko Ono.
    Paul is talented and great artist, but as a human, he is not above normal people. He is/and can be as sly and hippocratic as next person. Papers for some reason just ignores Paul's shortcomings, maybe because he was member of The Beatles.
    I think some/most of the reason MJ is ignored/vilified and his musical contributions are downplayed by likes Rolling stones mag and other rock magazines, is Pau's statements in the papers and on tv.

    Here is an example how smoothly he can lie:smilerolleyes:



    More talk from Paul. He explains his take on using Buddy H song for commercials, he did it because BH was commercials, whereas The Beatles wasn't. Note a little sly comment about how they were offered soft drink endorsement (directed at MJ's Pepsi commercials), but declined to do it. He has a little bit inflated ego and The Beatles music - by using them in commercials is like blotching a painting????



    To be honest, Paul has one of the biggest privately owned music catalogue, and he ain't sitting on them, he sells and allows them to be used for what ever he desires.
    Here is some info of his own music cataloue that he owns:
    http://www.mplcommunications.com/about.php


    Here is what Branca says how the deal happened:
    http://www.callawyer.com/Clstory.cfm?eid=917175

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    What's funny about the whole ''Bigger than Jesus'' thing is that the media as pretty much forgiven John Lennon for that comment but can you imagine if Michael said that? The media would bring that up every chance they got in articles and news reportings
    To be honest, I'm clad that what John Lennon said 1966 is forgotten. People went crazy and started burning their records, and called them with all sort of names. They had a huge backlash back then, but I'm clad it is put behind, and they are remembered for their music and their contribution to the music world.
    Also when JL and Yoko Ono had their bed-in for peace, they were called w...o and all sort of names in tabloids, just like they call MJ earlier and even now. I hope in time, any irrelevant talk about MJ (e.g.baby dangling incident) will be forgotten and true MJ emerges and his music/contributions to music world are appreciated to the fullest, just like it happened to Lennon and Elvis.
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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubs
    In my opinion Paul McCartney is responsible of many thing said of MJ and Yoko Ono.
    Totally agree with you bubs and good choice of youtubes. I would say the main reason the beatles fans and general public have a problem with mj owning the beatles catalogue is because of macca's incessant whingeing about it for decade after decade. If i heard that story from macca, said in a high pitched voice, of how mj said i'm gonna buy your songs paul, i've heard it a million times. Practically every media story about that catalogue has mj outbidding paul for it which is just false. Paul had 2 opportunities to buy it back, the second time when mj bought it, as lacienega says, paul was given first refusal. And if he was so anxious on protecting his songs from being commercialised, then why on earth didn't he buy them? How could he expect someone or some company paying 10s of $millions for his catalogue to just sit and stare at them?

    He's super irritating and i'm tempted to buy a team heather t-shirt.
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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    ^^ When Michael died, they showed Macca's interview on telly (I don't know whether it was new or old one), but he was crying again that Michael kind of pulled mat under his feet by buying that catalogue. Not to mention when he said that every time he plays Hey Jude, he has to pay for some one!

    All in all, I wonder how come none of these reporters never asked him what he has against Michael?
    As you said, and it is out there that he had his chance to buy it, he didn't, but he must have known someone is going to buy it, why not Michael?

    No wonder the public is against Michael when Paul is going around chat shows crying and lying.
    Only last year he apologized Yoko Ono for accusing her breaking the Beatles.
    We have a long wait ahead of us, before he is going to apologize what he said about MJ buying the catalogue.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles music and Paul (among other creepy crawlies:-)), but I'm not blind of his mistakes.

    Edited to add, Paul keeps saying that he introduced MJ to this catalogue business, but I wonder if MJ was pulling Paul's leg and played stupid?
    Didn't Michael always maintain the full ownership of his own songs, so obviously he knew how lucrative it is to own your own music?
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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubs View Post
    In my opinion Paul McCartney is responsible of many thing said of MJ and Yoko Ono.
    The tide did start turning on MJ in 1985, which is when he bought the catalog.
    More talk from Paul. He explains his take on using Buddy H song for commercials, he did it because BH was commercials, whereas The Beatles wasn't.
    Previously he said it was okay because Buddy Holly was dead at the time.

    In the 90s he complained the ATV thing wasn't fair as he was the only living Beatle and he didn't get publishing rights, blah blah blah... except at this point George was still alive, and Ringo is also still alive.

    Well, part of the reason that was stated for him not bidding for the catalog was because he'd have to deal with Yoko and he didn't want to do that, so you can see how much bitterness the man has. Yoko on the other hand was fine with MJ buying the catalog, one of the songs MJ doesn't own the rights to is "Imagine."

    If Paul had actually been bidding himself for the catalog I could see the resentment, but he never put any money up for it. If MJ had been outbidding Paul I could see it as bad, but the fact is someone was gonna buy the catalog then, if it wasn't MJ it would've been various other people, including a Japanese company and Richard Branson.

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    I'm a Beatle fan also but I love Michael even more. Paul said that bs for the millionth time on The Late Show with David Letterman. Same old story and bs but what pissed me off the most is that he immitates Mj's soft spoken voice and the audience laugh their asses off. What's the funny thing of being soft spoken!?

    :lol: your last comment Bonnie! Being a liar makes him indeed irritaiting...

    I gues Paul is still upset about it, that's why he keeps nagging and lying but I find this pic "strange" because it seems it's post 1985 and both of them don't look mad at each other...



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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    I gues Paul is still upset about it, that's why he keeps nagging and lying but I find this pic "strange" because it seems it's post 1985 and both of them don't look mad at each other...
    Its cuz over the years paul got to big for his boots!

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Quote Originally Posted by etoile 37 View Post
    I always get the feeling that Beatles fans are more pissed than Paul himself that Michael owns the Beatles songs.
    and for what? How does Michael owning The Beatles songs affect them? It's not like Michael demanded that every Beatles album be taken off the shelves. The music as always been there for them to listen to

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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    and for what? How does Michael owning The Beatles songs affect them? It's not like Michael demanded that every Beatles album be taken off the shelves. The music as always been there for them to listen to
    Excatly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    and for what? How does Michael owning The Beatles songs affect them? It's not like Michael demanded that every Beatles album be taken off the shelves. The music as always been there for them to listen to
    If you watch the Revolution Nike ad on YT, you'll realize they're still angry because they thin Michael stole The Beatles' property which is bs obviously.

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Michael didnt steal anything, the catalouge was for sale for ANYONE to get

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Exactly, he didn't but make them understand. :rant: Paul has repeated that lie since Michael bought it than his naive Beatle fans believe it.

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Macca's constant whining about losing his catalogue to mj led to the ridiculous story that mj, riddled with guilt, changed his will and left the beatles catalogue to macca. I thought this story was one of the millions that emerged after 25 june but when i checked, it came out in jan 09, probably around the time halperin was saying mj only had months to live. So of course when mj died in june, all these newspaper reports sprang up saying justice was going to be done and macca was going to inherit wht was rightfully his and then was allegedly 'devastated' to hear that the catalogue instead went to mj's children. It got to the point where paul had to come out and make an official statement denying he was expecting to inherit his songs back. Serves him right for being made to look a fool.

    Daily mirror jan 09. MICHAEL Jackson hopes to bury his 24-year feud with Sir Paul McCartney – by leaving his share of the Beatles back catalogue to him in his will.

    Macca was furious when ***** outbid him in 1985 to win ownership of the £350million publishing rights to the whole Lennon-McCartney songbook.

    The stars, once good pals who collaborated on early 80s hits The Girl is Mine and Say, Say, Say have not spoken since.

    But the debt-ridden King of Pop, now said to be battling a serious genetic lung disease, is determined to make peace with McCartney.

    Jackson, 50, who according to some reports is convinced he is dying and has been using a wheelchair, has drawn up a new will where Sir Paul, 66, will inherit control of his share of the Beatles songbook if the troubled star dies before him.

    Sources close to ***** say he has always regretted falling out with Macca. One insider said: “Michael is worried about his health so decided it was time to look at his finances.

    “Most of his estate has been divided up between his three children. But Michael told his lawyers he was sad he no longer talks to Sir Paul and said he wanted to make things right.”

    ***** sold half of his Beatles back catalogue rights to Sony in 1995, but still makes about £40million a year from them.

    Macca said recently: “The annoying thing is I have to pay to play some of my own songs. Each time I want to sing Hey Jude I have to pay.”

    Last night a source close to Sir Paul said: “If Michael Jackson was to give back the song rights in his will then Macca would be delighted.”

    Michael Jackson’s spokesman has officially denied the star believes he is dying.

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    he was hoping to get the catalouge back.....IN HIS DREAMS!

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    Default Re: The Michael/Paul McCartney/Beatles Catalog Story - What's the real story?

    Quote Originally Posted by 8701girl View Post
    he was hoping to get the catalouge back.....IN HIS DREAMS!
    :lol: ditto!

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