[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

No surprise that Wade said he didn’t care what the estate did. He said that before. I would expect no less from someone like him. Personally, these guys make me sick.

[Amaya]

****ing disgusting.

[ScreenOrigami]

will you donate it to charity or...

I bet they will.

[ScreenOrigami]

Notice how Edwards refuses to give a direct answer when asked "Did you reach out to them?"

"Uh, we met, we met through, uh, their—the amazing documentary."

Did they meet through their attorneys?
Through Reed?
Through them approaching him?
Through Oprah connecting the trio?
🤔 pic.twitter.com/A43Kl7FNQl

— TSCM (@MJJRepository) November 19, 2019

[ScreenOrigami]

Today's hearing took place a short walk from Los Angeles Union Station, which this year celebrated its 80th anniversary. This means Safechuck now knows what it's like to be near a train station that was operating from 1988 to 1992. #LiesOfLeavingNeverland pic.twitter.com/owLfqiRNBu

— Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) November 19, 2019

[Paris78]

Lawsuits by Michael Jackson accusers likely to be restored (Source MJ Vibe)

A California appeals court appeared strongly inclined Monday to give new life to lawsuits filed by two men who accuse Michael Jackson of repeatedly molesting them when they were boys.

In a tentative ruling, three judges said that lawsuits from James Safechuck and Wade Robson against two corporate entities that Jackson owned should be reconsidered by the trial court that dismissed them in 2017.

Both sat in court this Monday and looked like a “Leaving Neverland II”!

Outside, their attorney Vince Finaldi said the decision was the right one, and they are pleased.

“All they’ve ever wanted is their day in court,” Finaldi said.

The move marks a high-profile outcome for a new California law signed last month by state governor Gavin Newsom, which raised the age ceiling for victims of sexual abuse to file lawsuits from age 28 to age 40.It also gives victims of all ages a three-year window to sue, starting 1 January.

The new law was proposed in the wake of the scandal involving Larry Nassar, the former US Olympic gymnastics teams doctor convicted of sexually abusing young athletes.

Previously, survivors of child sexual abuse had to file a lawsuit within eight years of becoming an adult. The new law has opened the floodgates to a wave of potential lawsuits, and advocates said the reforms have given new hope to victims who previously had no options in the legal system to seek justice.

“The idea that someone who is assaulted as a child can actually run out of time to report that abuse is outrageous,” said Lorena Gonzalez, the California assemblywoman, when she introduced the bill. “More and more, we’re hearing about people who were victims years ago but were not ready to come forward to tell their story until now. We shouldn’t be telling victims their time is up when in reality we need them to come forward to protect the community from future abuse.”

The tentative decision does not revive the actual Jackson estate as a defendant. A 2015 decision throwing out that part of the lawsuit will stand. The remaining defendants are the two corporate entities, MJJ Productions Inc, and MJJ Ventures, Inc.

Attorneys for Jackson’s estate accepted that the cases must be returned to the trial court under the new legislation, but emphasized that the ruling is unrelated to the allegations they have long denounced as demonstrably false.

“This new law extends the time for genuine victims of abuse to file legal claims,” said Howard L Weitzman, Jackson estate attorney, in a statement. “The appellate court’s tentative ruling is not on the merits of Robson and Safechuck’s allegations and the court in no way said that these cases will go to trial. Neither does it reverse the 2015 rulings dismissing Robson and Safechuck’s claims against the estate, which are final and no longer subject to any appeals. We are confident that the claims against Michael Jackson’s corporate entities will, once again, be dismissed as has happened before.”

It seems the Estate is prepared for this and they are currently working to Defend Michael Jackson. It might be also a blessing in disguise as both proven liars will have to show a court of justice what they are saying is the truth and stick to what they told millions of people in “Leaving Neverland”. Might be difficult for them as “Leaving Neverland” was debunked by fans around the world!

As fans, it might be a hard time ahead but as usual, we will do everything we can to defend an innocent man: Michael Jackson.

[Paris78]

This is a MUST READ regarding Vince Finaldi's firm fishing for clients, which is illegal. AND, they intimate that the firm was attempting coercion! THIS is the law firm that represents both Robson and Safechuck. https://t.co/HHGdGJH9Fu

— andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) 19. November 2019

[ozemouze]

Here's a thread explaining the law change:

So let me explain what exactly changed in the California Code of Civil Procedure that enabled Wade Robson and James Safechuck to save their cases from being dismissed and what this means for the future.

— Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) 2019. november 19.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...866451458.html

[myosotis]

California moves to resurrect lawsuits at heart of Michael Jackson documentary

Judges say James Safechuck and Wade Robson’s suits should be reconsidered, a high profile outcome for a new sexual abuse law

A California appeals court appeared strongly inclined on Monday to give new life to lawsuits filed by two men who accuse Michael Jackson of repeatedly molesting them when they were boys.

In a tentative ruling, three judges said that lawsuits from James Safechuck and Wade Robson against two corporate entities that Jackson owned should be reconsidered by the trial court that dismissed them in 2017.

Robson, 37, and Safechuck, 41, who became known to a broad audience when they aired their accusations earlier this year in the Emmy-winning HBO documentary Leaving Neverland, sat together in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom during Monday’s brief hearing.

Outside, their attorney Vince Finaldi said the decision was the right one, and they are pleased.

“All they’ve ever wanted is their day in court,” Finaldi said.

“The idea that someone who is assaulted as a child can actually run out of time to report that abuse is outrageous,” said Lorena Gonzalez, the California assemblywoman, when she introduced the bill. “More and more, we’re hearing about people who were victims years ago but were not ready to come forward to tell their story until now. We shouldn’t be telling victims their time is up when in reality we need them to come forward to protect the community from future abuse.”

With the new law in place, lawyers are anticipating a surge of litigation that could impact institutions such as the Roman Catholic church and the Boy Scouts of America, along with school districts, hospitals, youth sports groups and other entities.

The tentative decision does not revive the actual Jackson estate as a defendant. A 2015 decision throwing out that part of the lawsuit will stand. The remaining defendants are the two corporate entities, MJJ Productions, and MJJ Ventures.

Attorneys for Jackson’s estate accepted that the cases must be returned to the trial court under the new legislation, but emphasized that the ruling is unrelated to the allegations they have long denounced as demonstrably false.

“This new law extends the time for genuine victims of abuse to file legal claims,” said Howard L Weitzman, Jackson estate attorney, in a statement. “The appellate court’s tentative ruling is not on the merits of Robson and Safechuck’s allegations and the court in no way said that these cases will go to trial. Neither does it reverse the 2015 rulings dismissing Robson and Safechuck’s claims against the estate, which are final and no longer subject to any appeals. We are confident that the claims against Michael Jackson’s corporate entities will, once again, be dismissed as has happened before.”

The move marks a high-profile outcome for a new California law signed last month by state governor Gavin Newsom, which raised the age ceiling for victims of sexual abuse to file lawsuits from age 28 to age 40.It also gives victims of all ages a three-year window to sue, starting 1 January.

The new law was proposed in the wake of the scandal involving Larry Nassar, the former US Olympic gymnastics teams doctor convicted of sexually abusing young athletes.

Previously, survivors of child sexual abuse had to file a lawsuit within eight years of becoming an adult. The new law has opened the floodgates to a wave of potential lawsuits, and advocates said the reforms have given new hope to victims who previously had no options in the legal system to seek justice.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...law-california

[elusive moonwalker]

Anthony edwards from ER fame. Urgh. Its all so pathetic. Turning upto court how very obvious and desperate

[ozemouze]

Anthony edwards from ER fame. Urgh. Its all so pathetic. Turning upto court how very obvious and desperate

Yep. It seems he contributed to the shameful exploitation of real CSA victims on the Oprah show. For PR in return.

The problem is if he investigated the case he must know R&S are lying. If he didn't, on what grounds does he support them? Either way he's risking the credibility of his CSA group.

Wade & James' sidekick—Anthony Edwards. He was instrumental in recruiting CSA survivors for Oprah & had his group promoted on her show & HBO.

His last promoted story was about outrage over Dave Chappelle daring to disbelieve such "courageous" accusers.

Get used to seeing him. pic.twitter.com/O9fk7Ja8YT

— TSCM (@MJJRepository) 2019. november 18.

He's not very creative though:

The posts from Anthony Edwards and Matthew Ennis are JUST copy / paste... 😒
It really shows their support... they didn't even bother post something different from one another!
Hypocrites! pic.twitter.com/Sj2kPY3lkG

— AC (@TheThirdEyeAC) 2019. szeptember 4.

[PoP]

I never even heard of that Anthony Edwards guy. Has he met Michael in his lifetime? Not to my knowledge.

[elusive moonwalker]

I only recognised his face cause of the show ER. Thats what? knocking on 20 years ago? So prob before some of your ppls times? No idea if hes ever done anything else or this is chance to get back in the spotlight

You would have to laugh if it wasnt so pathetic. These people like edwards are either so thick they dont realise they are been used .so thick they dont even bother looking into accusations to help maintain credibility for real victims that they claim to care about. Dont care cause they crave attention regardless.or hate mj so much .or the best one is they are throwing stones to hide their hands.

[ScreenOrigami]

1991 - Interview w/ Joy & Wade (2 weeks before moving to US): https://t.co/g9efdVlqko

1995 - Interview w/ Joy & Wade (post-Chandler scandal and Wade's album launch): https://t.co/QGnFVZhPOh

1996 - Grandma Robson's Letter from Visits to Neverland: https://t.co/8E697cgpb6

— TSCM (@MJJRepository) November 20, 2019

[myosotis]

From fans on Twitter (Thank you):

The appeals court has scheduled a due date to file the panel's opinion for February 3, 2020.

So we have a window of time to look toward. assuming their tentative ruling stands in this opinion (most likely), the cases will be remanded back to court.