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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

    Interesting report from the Weinstein jury selection.

    I wonder - if Robson goes to trial - whether potential jurors might be asked if they have seen 'LN', and then be de-selected for the jury? (I'm hoping so!!)

    Harvey Weinstein’s Lawyer Asks Potential Jurors If They Watch ‘Law & Order’

    Fictional court made its way into real court when one of Harvey Weinstein’s attorneys brought up “Law & Order” in his line of questioning during jury selection on Thursday.

    “I have a great question. I wrote it myself,” Weinstein’s lawyer Damon Cheronis said, approaching prospective jurors with a smirk on his face and a charming laugh. “Does anybody watch ‘Law & Order?'”

    When a prospective female juror said she did watch the television series, the lawyer mentioned that he’s never seen the show, quipping, “I think there’s like 20 of them.” Then he asked the woman, “But do you watch them regularly?” She said she typically watches “Law & Order: SVU,” but then she admitted her favorite procedural is actually CBS’ “Criminal Minds.”

    Cheronis asked, “Do you root for the prosecution or the defense when you watch ‘Law & Order?'” to which the potential juror skillfully replied, “I root for the jury.”

    “Is it a good show?” Cheronis asked the panel of 20 prospective jurors, open-ended for anyone to answer. A different person replied, “It’s mindless,” while another juror said, “It’s background noise.”

    Perhaps Weinstein is not a fan of “Law & Order” — while Cheronis was asking prospective jurors about their “Law & Order” consumption habits, Weinstein appeared to be nodding off with his head falling forward, but he then jerked his head up and opened his eyes some more.

    Cheronis also asked the panel about the two books authored by the trio of Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists who broke the original Weinstein sexual harassment stories, Ronan Farrow, Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey.

    “Has anybody read Ronan Farrow’s book that came out? Has anybody read the NY Times book that came out?” Cheronis asked. “Has anyone seen any documentaries [about Weinstein]?”

    No one on the panel suggested that they had read any of the books or seen any Weinstein-centric documentaries.

    After two panels of prospective jurors were questioned by Weinstein’s defense and the D.A.’s office, seven jurors were chosen to serve on the two-month rape trial. None of the “Law & Order” fans were ultimately selected for the jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    I wonder - if Robson goes to trial - whether potential jurors might be asked if they have seen 'LN', and then be de-selected for the jury?
    I would think so. My understanding is that the whole point of the jury selection process is to find an unbiased jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreenOrigami View Post
    I would think so. My understanding is that the whole point of the jury selection process is to find an unbiased jury.
    Asking about documentary and book sources wouldn't go far enough though. It's possible to have missed both (eg busy working people), but have read the unfolding story every day in the newspapers and taken in all the lies that way. I hope the MJ Estate legal team will be more thorough...
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

    Can Gavin Arvizo by the way sue Wade for testifying against him, if Wade even can win the lawsuit against MJ's companies even though the chances are zero? I am thinking that maybe Gavin also has financial motives too from this...

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

    Anyone can file a lawsuit. He could sue him for lieing under oath that helped him lose. But i hardly think such a case would stand up in court

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    I dont think gavin would

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    Quote Originally Posted by john13th View Post
    Can Gavin Arvizo by the way sue Wade for testifying against him, if Wade even can win the lawsuit against MJ's companies even though the chances are zero? I am thinking that maybe Gavin also has financial motives too from this...
    I'd rather he'd not get involved in this. I rather not want him involved, because I hate him, he lied and if I ever see his face I just wanna punch it good. Literally!
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

    The only way I want him involved is if he comes clean.

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    I ditto that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    Anyone can file a lawsuit. He could sue him for lieing under oath that helped him lose. But i hardly think such a case would stand up in court
    The thing is, Wade Robson didn't lie under oath. He's lying now. Gavin Arvizo's case was lost fourteen and a half years ago.
    It's over, legally. Done and dusted. There is no avenue to resurrect that and start suing people for (allegedly) lying. It just doesn't work that way.

    Wade Robson's weak-arsed case now isn't even against MJ or the MJ Estate. It's against the companies and the company executives....and it is doomed to fail. All that's happening is that every single legal avenue is being tried, one by one, until there are absolutely none left to try. It's like clutching at straws as they fly past, in the wind, hoping to grab just one. He is a desperate and shameful human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    The thing is, Wade Robson didn't lie under oath. He's lying now. Gavin Arvizo's case was lost fourteen and a half years ago.
    It's over, legally. Done and dusted. There is no avenue to resurrect that and start suing people for (allegedly) lying. It just doesn't work that way.

    Wade Robson's weak-arsed case now isn't even against MJ or the MJ Estate. It's against the companies and the company executives....and it is doomed to fail. All that's happening is that every single legal avenue is being tried, one by one, until there are absolutely none left to try. It's like clutching at straws as they fly past, in the wind, hoping to grab just one. He is a desperate and shameful human being.
    I'd add severe narcissist to that list too, among other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    The thing is, Wade Robson didn't lie under oath. He's lying now. Gavin Arvizo's case was lost fourteen and a half years ago.
    It's over, legally. Done and dusted. There is no avenue to resurrect that and start suing people for (allegedly) lying. It just doesn't work that way.

    Wade Robson's weak-arsed case now isn't even against MJ or the MJ Estate. It's against the companies and the company executives....and it is doomed to fail. All that's happening is that every single legal avenue is being tried, one by one, until there are absolutely none left to try. It's like clutching at straws as they fly past, in the wind, hoping to grab just one. He is a desperate and shameful human being.
    Of course robson is lieing now but the poster asked about arvizo sueing robson for "lieing" in the 2005 trial a lie he would claim helped to aquit mj and caused him (arvizo)trauma etc etc. Of course it wouldnt stand up for all sorts of reasons but the op was asking interms of him filing a suit

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    What is interesting to note (as MJ's estates did throughout the deposition) is that almost no questions related to Wade or James specifically.

    Virtually all of Finaldi's questions were about the Chandler allegations and old tabloid rumors. This is Finaldi clutching at straws.
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