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    Didn't hear about this in the media.

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    Linda D is still around!👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    As regards sanctions:

    Finaldi sanctioned big time!

    In a tentative order (finalized tomorrow), judge has imposed $9,200 SANCTIONS against Finaldi payable to estate within 30 days.

    The judge agreed w/ estate—amount is for "time spent directly opposing the motion."

    https://mjjr.net/docs/2020-10-16-Tentative-Order.pdf


    Subsequently:

    FINAL RULING ON SANCTIONS: The judge has -finalized- his ruling in which Finaldi has been sanctioned $9,200 for his failed motion on 9/24.

    The judge made clear Finaldi's poor attempt to meet & confer was not appropriate or fair.

    10/16 hearing didn't change this.
    Subsequent to the court order for $9,200 in sanctions (relating to the conduct of the defence counsel during the deposition of LW ), on 23rd October 2020 Finaldi appealed against these sanctions.

    (That's in addition to his appeal against the Safechuck ruling).
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    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    Linda D is still around!
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    Linda deutsh A.P reporter. Practically the only legitimate and fair journo from 03/05

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    Quote Originally Posted by JichaelMackson View Post
    Didn't hear about this in the media.
    I hope this take away some of that "pessimistic" behavior you had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrell View Post
    I hope this take away some of that "pessimistic" behavior you had.
    To be honest not even slightly. The fact that this wasn't a news item makes my pessimism even bigger. It is no good news if it doesn't spread, the people have to to be convinced as well that MJ was innocent and we need the media for that.
    I don't know how you guys perceive it all since LN but Michael used to be a bad joke, they laughed with his looks, childlike behavior and his alleged sexual interest in children. People joked but deep down they thought , the guy was just a bit weird that is all. NOW since LN I see people being reluctant to even mention his name, there is no joke or laughs anymore because it got really serious.This proves to me that most people tend to believe the current narrative.

    That is how MJ's legacy was destroyed. Sure he still get airtime but there is no more "genius" or "talented but troubled soul" comments anymore. Nobody dares to talk about what they saw in LN. There is a stain over his entire career now.

    There is hope but how much and how much time is left for Michael to be redeemed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JichaelMackson View Post
    To be honest not even slightly. The fact that this wasn't a news item makes my pessimism even bigger. It is no good news if it doesn't spread, the people have to to be convinced as well that MJ was innocent and we need the media for that.
    I don't know how you guys perceive it all since LN but Michael used to be a bad joke, they laughed with his looks, childlike behavior and his alleged sexual interest in children. People joked but deep down they thought , the guy was just a bit weird that is all. NOW since LN I see people being reluctant to even mention his name, there is no joke or laughs anymore because it got really serious.This proves to me that most people tend to believe the current narrative.

    That is how MJ's legacy was destroyed. Sure he still get airtime but there is no more "genius" or "talented but troubled soul" comments anymore. Nobody dares to talk about what they saw in LN. There is a stain over his entire career now.

    There is hope but how much and how much time is left for Michael to be redeemed?
    It is all over the place now including Foxnews. I do not see people stop saying his name and everyone is not dwelling on these lies. sorry but I do not hear what you are hearing no where. As for LN, people are either did not want to see that because they know it was all about money (that was proven even more with James's case being dismissed AGAIN- and this is with the NEW CA LAW in place. So now, they can NOT use the excuse "stautue of limitation cause them not to sue. They were allowed and James lost that. Next is Wade) or they said it look like lies. Maybe people aint talking about it because it has been proven to be BS. MJ will be fine and it will be even better when all of this is over. and if there is a stain, the Media got a stain, Oprah got a stain and she knows it; these lying accusers got a stain, HBO has a stain (and if the Estate win against HBO, that is going to be big blow to HBO), etc. And big up to Wiki for detailing info the correct way including telling how MJ music went UP and those Few places who moved MJ put it BACK on the radio due to POSTIVE FEED BACK. So again, I do not believe your logic overall. Are there going to be some "haters", of course, If MJ was perfect, somebody would find something to trash him about (Even Obama/Michelle has haters. Trump constanctly lie on Obama).
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    Michael has haters. he will forever have haters. we all have haters. but Michael is forever innocent and always will.



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    I been seeing media outlets saying it like bbc and billboard etc. so for others who not seeing it maybe you just don't look at the news etc. i don't even watch the news but i been seeing it in the community. maybe you guys live in a different country who won't put it out there. *rolleyes* screw them.



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    And as for the "talented but trouble soul", MJ is not responsible for lies told on him no more than we are responsible for lies told on us. Did Michael have problems, of course, but SHOW ME a human being who does not have issues. One thing I can say, you can believe people who judge MJ have JUST as much issues or MORE than Michael. if we all lived on tv, we would look the same way in some form. And as I said before, WE all have haters and I am sure there are a few areas that might hate on MJ more than others and that can be said about all celebs. Obama is loved but there are certain "areas" that HATE on Obama, Beyoncé, all rappers, etc. Does that mean they are over? No.
    Last edited by terrell; 26-10-2020 at 01:49 PM.

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    "There was nothing strange about your daddy.It was strange what he had to deal with but he delt with it"

    Troubles caused by other ppl. But its easier to put them onto mj instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Michael has haters. he will forever have haters. we all have haters. but Michael is forever innocent and always will.
    True, but haters will get hated even more than they hated him.
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