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    Such motions require arguments based on the law inorder to win not hes a liar. how they act in interviews is different to writing a motion arguing points based on the law which is what will win it for you.

    i do agree they are terrible at defending mj but a legal motion is a seperate issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor View Post

    They didn't call Robson a liarm not one time in any of their statements.
    They do make statements several times in their court papers that they do not consider Robson's allegations true and whatever legal argument they make they do it that way because the law requires the Judge to consider Robson's claims as true. An example from the Estate's latest demurrer:



    They do state this all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    They do make statements several times in their court papers that they do not consider Robson's allegations true and whatever legal argument they make they do it that way because the law requires the Judge to consider Robson's claims as true. An example from the Estate's latest demurrer:



    They do state this all the time.
    I'm not talking about the legal docs but their public statements.
    That filhty minded Marzano calls MJ a monster a predator and what not and the Estate cannot even call Robson a liar?
    They are weasels, period.

    They should ridicule him, humiliate him, instead they are using diplomatic language.
    They don't understand that this is war. Or they don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor View Post
    I'm not talking about the legal docs but their public statements.
    That filhty minded Marzano calls MJ a monster a predator and what not and the Estate cannot even call Robson a liar?
    They are weasels, period.

    They should ridicule him, humiliate him, instead they are using diplomatic language.
    They don't understand that this is war. Or they don't care.
    I don't think the type of language that Marzano uses and her unprofessional comments come accross as sympathetic to most independent people and I don't think the Estate should sink to her level in media comments. Yes, sometimes they could come across as more forceful (eg. the whole FBI files crap) but this was not that occasion where it was needed IMO.

    By the way, the Estate did call Robson a liar. When he first made his allegations Weitzman calling him a liar to TMZ was actually Robson's excuse of going to Today's Show to "clear his name". (I am pretty sure that was just an excuse and it was a part of his plan from the get go, but IIRC that comment by Weitzman was used by them to excuse his going on the Today's Show.)

    ETA: And this was Weitzman's comment now:

    “The court’s dismissal of Wade Robson’s claim against the estate of Michael Jackson confirms that his lawsuit was inappropriately filed,” Weitzman said. “Mr. Robson testified under oath in a courtroom that Michael never did anything improper with him. The estate believes his testimony was honest when his sole motivation was ‘to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.”‘
    I'd say that's pretty much calling him a liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrell View Post
    No, she is a fool who do not believe her own case by the way she is talking. she is looking for attention and hope this get her more clients by having this case and putting her name out there.. She know this mess is not true.
    So how is it a no? :P I think we agree. She's a lawyer who goes to the media and uses shocking language to get the attention she couldn't get so far. It's not really working for her. To me it shows unprofessionalism and maybe panic especially after the dismissal.

    If that was her reaction I can imagine how Wade was like :lol:

    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    I don't think the type of language that Marzano uses and her unprofessional comments come accross as sympathetic to most independent people and I don't think the Estate should sink to her level in media comments. Yes, sometimes they could come across as more forceful (eg. the whole FBI files crap) but this was not that occasion where it was needed IMO.
    I agree, it doesn't look good.
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    Safechuck is trying to start his civil case

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

    Without waiting on his claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivy View Post
    Safechuck is trying to start his civil case

    Pfft. STABchuck is not gonna win. He's gonna lose anyhow. We will never leech $$$ off the Estate with his backstabbing lies.
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    A civil suit? I thought they said this wasn't about money? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts View Post
    Without waiting on his claim?
    similar to robson, safechuck also filed a probate claim and a civil case. his civil case did not show any movement for a year. he is just trying to start it and probably name the corporations. at this time they should know that their probate claim will get dismissed so they are trying to start the case against corporations.
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

    Was he working for Michael or PepsiCo?

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    How desperate.Safechuck is having a panic attacks over the thought that he "went" through this but at the end he wont get a penny. Sweet justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    I wonder if it also indicates that the Estate/ Colony are fairly sure that there will be no court proceedings about 'alleged events' in various parts of the property, so there will be no prolonged discussions / descriptions to dissuade interested buyers.
    Indeed. It seems they are celebrating early.

    Quote Originally Posted by castor View Post
    What they don't seem to understand or they don't care about is that this issue is not about the law. This is about soundbites and perception....

    Weitzman and Branca have been weasels when it comes to MJ's innocence ever since 2005.

    Branca couldn't even give a forceful response during the 60minute interview. He just let that bitch repeat the myth that MJ was "sleeping with boys" -- clearly insinuating that alone proved he was a child molester.

    Or look at their weak response to that BS 100 M for 20 victims story.

    They have been doing a piss-poor job at protecting MJ's reputation.
    I know your words may seem harsh to some however; I understand your point and I agree. Unfortunately and especially because this is almost six years after the lost of Michael, it is neither here nor there. I believe it is clear their job is not being performed out of love for the man; it is a job. It is fact Michael's perceived reputation fortunately has not effected profits for almost six years. Let us hope it continues so there will be no need to defend his perceived reputation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ivy View Post
    Safechuck is trying to start his civil case
    Key word is trying. Without the judge's approval of his claims, Safechuck will have no civil case. I believe you said his civil case is dependent upon his probate claims. Those probate claims will most likely follow Robson's and neither have a good chance at a civil trial. I understand Robson and Safechuck's lawyers would like to proceed to a civil trial however; it most likely will not happen and their only viable option will be to appeal if they can afford to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tygger View Post
    I believe you said his civil case is dependent upon his probate claims.
    not completely. his civil case against corporations isn't dependent on probate claims. probate claim only determines if he can add MJ/ MJ Estate as a defendant to his civil case. Even the judge denies the claims against MJ/MJ Estate (as he did with Robson), Safechuck can still sue MJ Companies (as Robson is also doing).
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