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    Default Re: Michael Jackson Nominated For the Pop Music Hall of Fame.

    3dog knight? How tf are they in there? The only time I've ever heard that name was on the ed Sullivan show as 1 of Michaels favorite groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderouzdj2 View Post
    3dog knight? How tf are they in there? The only time I've ever heard that name was on the ed Sullivan show as 1 of Michaels favorite groups
    that wasn't on the Ed Sullivan show, that was on Amercian Bandstand

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderouzdj2 View Post
    3 dog night? How tf are they in there? The only time I've ever heard that name was on the ed Sullivan show as 1 of Michaels favorite groups
    I take it you're not from the USA. I still occasionally hear Three Dog Night on oldies & classic rock stations, or on infomercials for Time-Life CD sets. If you look at the acts already inducted, the majority are from the 1960s and a few acts from the 1940s, 1950s, & 1970s. So probably boomers are the main ones voting and likely the age group who started this museum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGVVGGCC22331122 View Post
    That would have been a really nice idea, HIStoric. Hmm....Something to think about, eh? But, as you have probably gathered by now, from what you have read of some of my comments, so far — up to this point — I am as deeply a fan of one other* individual (*he who shall not be named, for obvious reasons) who was just as equally talented as Michael Jackson was; To designate one single artist — in any musical genre — as the so-called “King” or “Queen” of every and all types of music would be absolutely unfair to those who also deserve to be recognized for their accomplishments. What do YOU think, about this?


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    Calling Michael The King of Pop, The King, or The King of music takes nothing away from any other artist.
    Michael earned his title as The King fair and square after years of hard work, and even now the media stays trying to give his hard earned title away to other artists that are mediocre in comparison to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    Calling Michael The King of Pop, The King, or The King of music takes nothing away from any other artist.
    Michael earned his title as The King fair and square after years of hard work, and even now the media stays trying to give his hard earned title away to other artists that are mediocre in comparison to him.

    I, in no way, would consider that someone as amazingly talented as Prince was “mediocre” — not by a long shot!!! He was far from “mediocre,” and just as equal to Michael as Michael was to him; They each excelled at what they did, at an extremely high-quality level. I will say, however, that they differed, greatly, as far as which aspects of their skills they each were best at, if you understand what I’m saying, here.

    But, I totally get it, P.D.P., when you are talking about either one (or, both) of the two “Justins” (Timberlake and/or Bieber, take your pick) and anyone else who desperately tries so hard to copycat off of any- and everything Michael ever did when it came to overall entertainment, from the way he sang and danced, to what he wore and how he wore it. A form of “cultural appropriation,” anyone?

    Yeah, TELL me about it, P.D.P.!!! What’s so stupid and outright ridiculous, is that the media had already started looking for the “new,” or the “next ‘King of Pop,’ ” quite a number of years before Michael had actually passed, and when he was still very much alive. This type of thing only got worse, after he was no longer with us. I’m sure you’ve seen and read articles, some of which were written right afterwards, as well as others written a few years later than that, when “information” of some sort came out about some so-called newly-popular “artist” (supposedly, allegedly) breaking one record* or another (*whether it was surpassing his chart position, sales of “x-number” of copies of certain albums, or what have you), that he had held for so long.

    When a magazine like “Rolling Stone” starts to actually declare Justin Timberlake (of all people, one of THE most obviously blatant copycats ever) the “new ‘King of Pop’ ” in one of its cover articles, that really takes the cake, the pie and everything else.

    I do clearly understand that records can — and, will — eventually be broken, some time down the road. But, absolutely none of these newer, much younger so-called “artists” that came out with their first “hit” albums, CD’s or whatever — during the last, maybe....ten years, or so — could have ever held a candle to Michael, because, he already had something they absolutely, positively DO NOT have (let alone to the degree and to the extent he HAD it) and they NEVER will. No matter what “Rolling Stone” or any other biased, prejudiced, “Rock”-oriented magazine’s views of Michael are. That one thing was just this amazing, natural and pure musical talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGVVGGCC22331122 View Post
    I, in no way, would consider that someone as amazingly talented as Prince was “mediocre” — not by a long shot!!! He was far from “mediocre,” and just as equal to Michael as Michael was to him; They each excelled at what they did, at an extremely high-quality level. I will say, however, that they differed, greatly, as far as which aspects of their skills they each were best at, if you understand what I’m saying, here.

    But, I totally get it, P.D.P., when you are talking about either one (or, both) of the two “Justins” (Timberlake and/or Bieber, take your pick) and anyone else who desperately tries so hard to copycat off of any- and everything Michael ever did when it came to overall entertainment, from the way he sang and danced, to what he wore and how he wore it. A form of “cultural appropriation,” anyone?

    Yeah, TELL me about it, P.D.P.!!! What’s so stupid and outright ridiculous, is that the media had already started looking for the “new,” or the “next ‘King of Pop,’ ” quite a number of years before Michael had actually passed, and when he was still very much alive. This type of thing only got worse, after he was no longer with us. I’m sure you’ve seen and read articles, some of which were written right afterwards, as well as others written a few years later than that, when “information” of some sort came out about some so-called newly-popular “artist” (supposedly, allegedly) breaking one record* or another (*whether it was surpassing his chart position, sales of “x-number” of copies of certain albums, or what have you), that he had held for so long. When a magazine like “Rolling Stone” starts to actually declare Justin Timberlake (of all people, one of [][]THE[][] most obviously []blatant[] copycats ever) the “new ‘[]King of Pop[]’ ” in one of its cover articles, [][] really takes the cake, the pie and [][] else.

    I do clearly understand that records can — and, will — eventually be broken, some time down the road. But, absolutely []none[] of these newer, much []younger[] so-called “artists”


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    I take it you're not from the USA. I still occasionally hear Three Dog Night on oldies & classic rock stations, or on infomercials for Time-Life CD sets. If you look at the acts already inducted, the majority are from the 1960s and a few acts from the 1940s, 1950s, & 1970s. So probably boomers are the main ones voting and likely the age group who started this museum.
    Boomers who grew up listening to the records their parents listened to. This list of inductees reads like my parent's albums that I inherited-Johnny Mathis, Andy Williams, Nat King Cole etc-and the people I latched onto when I was a teen-like the Carpenters,the 5th Dimension and the Supremes.

    It looks like to be eligible for this you have to be a performer and you have to have a top 100 hit between 1945 and 1975. Did Michael have many SOLO hits before 75? I know "Ben", but that's all I can think of. He got in just under the wire with the dates.

    I hope they start nominating the big bands of the 40's like Harry James and Duke Ellington, Tommy Dorsey and Glenn Miller, etc. I consider them performers too. And they were definitely POP of the time. Still hold up. (to me )

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    It looks like to be eligible for this you have to be a performer and you have to have a top 100 hit between 1945 and 1975. Did Michael have many SOLO hits before 75? I know "Ben", but that's all I can think of. He got in just under the wire with the dates.
    There were a few others like I Wanna Be Where You Are & Got To Be There. But if that's the time period they're using, most of the hits were by the Jackson 5, not any of them solo.

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    ^^Thanks!! I can see the Jackson 5 getting in since they broke records with their first four songs.
    Can't believe Smokey and the Miracles aren't on the list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    ^^Thanks!! I can see the Jackson 5 getting in since they broke records with their first four songs.
    Can't believe Smokey and the Miracles aren't on the list!
    People always talk about the #1s, but the J5 had many other hits on the Top 40 and also the R&B chart. I know many people don't care about the R&B chart or consider it important, and only talk about the hits on the mainstream Top 40 pop chart, which is code for popular with white people. I see it all the time on this site, if a song or artist isn't known internationally or haven't sold a huge amount of records, then folks think they're nothing. Stuff like "I don't know who Three Dog Night is, and only heard Mike mention them once" or "Who is Garth Brooks? He isn't known in my country". The thing about this is that this pop music museum is in the USA and so is the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame, so of course they're going to have acts that are popular in the USA. They're not going to induct acts popular in India, Mexico, or Cuba. So it doesn't matter if Three Dog Night is known in some other country. That has no relevancy to who is inducted in a building in the USA

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    Oh definitely they had more hits than that. I was just thinking on that record ALONE, they deserve to be inducted.
    Very often songs that hit #1 on R&B charts or country didn't hit the top 10-maybe the top 40. Country-rock-pop was just as crossover as some R&B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    Oh definitely they had more hits than that. I was just thinking on that record ALONE, they deserve to be inducted.
    Very often songs that hit #1 on R&B charts or country didn't hit the top 10-maybe the top 40. Country-rock-pop was just as crossover as some R&B.
    I just think many people on this site are fixated on statistics like who sold the most or who had the most hits or who won some award. It not a race or sports where a winner is determined by who gets the most points. It's music, there's no winner or loser. It's not the same as playing a game. Winning an award does not make one performer better than another. Milli Vanilli won a Grammy and they didn't even sing on their album. Awards are generally given out to whoever is popular at the moment.

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    ^^You talking about the Pop hall of Fame or mjjc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    ^^You talking about the Pop hall of Fame or mjjc?
    The MJJC site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    Prince wasn't one of mediocre people I was talking about.

    Thank you, P.D.P., I’m so glad. But, you do agree with me that the “Rock” music-oriented publications (such as “Rolling Stone,” my previous example I had cited) all share at least some degree of prejudice and/or bias amongst their readership, writers and editorial board, when it comes to certain artists they either do or don’t like? These publishers, writers and editors of “mainstream” magazines are all a part of the larger media, that we well know has its long-time bias against Michael, for the most part. What do you think, P.D.P.?


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