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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzball View Post
    Jermaine is missing on that photo. This makes me thinking if the initial victory album concept was thrown away once it was clear that Jermaine would join the brothers?
    Jermaine wasn't involved at first and came in halfway through the sessions. That's why there's no songs written by him or solo leads on the album and he wasn't on the earlier publicity photos that were taken. Torture was originally a duet with Jackie & Mike. But when Jermaine rejoined the group, he replaced Jackie's lead vocal. On the 12" version of Torture, Jackie's ad libs are still there, which were removed on the album version. Mike sang on a song from Jermaine's 1984 self titled album (USA version) called Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin' and Tito & Randy do background vocals on Escape From The Planet Of The Ant Men.

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    What's disturbing about Centipede?
    it's been awhile since I watched it, and I don't remember the full plot. I do remember a scene at he end where rebbie gives an evil look to camera, before zapping a museum security guard with red lightning bolts from her fingertips. lyrics are questionable too.. I do like the groove, arrangement, and chorus though. quite catchy!

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Lets be honest here, Victory was a very poor album. The only songs I enjoy are Torture & One More Chance and to an extent Wait and Be Not Always. The others are just plain awful. I'm annoyed that Michael agreed to do this awful album. I wish he could say 'no' to his mother. The brothers manipulated him to do this awful album by using their mother. I wish we had got a proper Thriller tour instead.

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    Lets be honest here, Victory was a very poor album. The only songs I enjoy are Torture & One More Chance and to an extent Wait and Be Not Always. The others are just plain awful. I'm annoyed that Michael agreed to do this awful album. I wish he could say 'no' to his mother. The brothers manipulated him to do this awful album by using their mother. I wish we had got a proper Thriller tour instead.
    It is a solid album with few great songs including #3 hit State of Shock. I also love The Hurt, One More Chance and Wait.

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loneman1 View Post

    Maybe they just thought the new stuff wasn't strong enough to stand up with their classic stuff.....?
    They did think that and they were right. It was really a pseudo-Thriller tour any way...that is obvious to all.

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    Lets be honest here, Victory was a very poor album. The only songs I enjoy are Torture & One More Chance and to an extent Wait and Be Not Always. The others are just plain awful. I'm annoyed that Michael agreed to do this awful album. I wish he could say 'no' to his mother. The brothers manipulated him to do this awful album by using their mother. I wish we had got a proper Thriller tour instead.
    One More Chance, State Of Shock, Wait, Torture, Be Not Always, The Hurt.

    Victory was a solid album.

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    One More Chance, State Of Shock, Wait, Torture, Be Not Always, The Hurt.

    Victory was a solid album.
    Absolutely agree! Better than their first 2 albums under CBS.

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Personally victory is my least listened to jackson album.. not enough Michael for my liking..

    There needs to be more than a few tracks with him on it.. and I mean his voice alone lol.. I never listen to any jackson song without waiting for his parts..

    In fact I love hearing the mediocre vocals of the other brothers, than Michael swoops in and kills it.. takes it to another level!

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    In fact I love hearing the mediocre vocals of the other brothers, than Michael swoops in and kills it.. takes it to another level!
    Can You Feel It!

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    Default 2300 Jackson Street

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    Personally victory is my least listened to jackson album.. not enough Michael for my liking..
    Then it seems kinda odd that you would listen to the 2300 Jackson Street album more, since there is even less Mike on it.

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    Torture as one of my favourite Michael vocal delivery's of all time. ''Every little thing you find here, is simply for the thrill you're after'' - I love how he sings that part.
    thanks for that! I must look up the lyrics to the rest of that verse. I honestly had no idea what he was saying (along with the 'billie jean' pepsi jingle). yet I *felt* his fear and satisfaction. i'm honestly not fond of the song, but I like it a whole lot better than 'state of shock'. Michael's voice elevates it (along with everything else he touched in the early '80's) and makes it worth a listen. not on the level of 'can you feel it', but still.. I wonder what he would have done if he appeared in the video?

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    Victory Tour 1984
    This Really should have been the Setlist for the Victory Tour

    1. Wanna Be Startin Somethin
    2. Off The Wall
    3. Human Nature
    4. Torture
    5. Be Not Always
    6. Jacksons Victory Medley & Jermaines Medley( Marlon performs 'Body' Jermaine performs Lets Get Serious, Dynamite ,One more Chance (With Randy) & Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming (With MJ)
    7. Jackson 5 Medley (I Want You Back/ The Love You Save/ ABC/ I'll Be There)
    8. Rock With You
    9. Wait
    10. Workin Day & Night
    11. Thriller
    12. Beat It
    13. Billie Jean
    Encore
    14. Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
    15. State Of Shock

    Notes
    Off The Wall replaces 'Things I Do For You'
    Torture replaces 'Heartbreak Hotel'
    Be Not Always Replaces 'She's Out Of My Life'
    Wait replaces 'Lovely One'
    Don't Stop Till You Get Enough replaces 'Shake Your Body'

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    ^^Why would any artist perform new songs in a medley?

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    Default Re: No Victory songs on the Victory tour?

    It's the biggest selling Jacksons album, I'd love to see the faces of people rushing to buy it after thriller and then finding out MJ only has 2 songs on it. If he contributed just 3 or 4 songs more it would have been a diamond seller. After thriller everybody wanted more MJ.

    As for the victory tour setlist, I would have picked something entirely different.
    It would be all 9 thriller tracks (sales would have been even higher) + some Jacksons songs. Calling it the victory tour was just a concession done to his brothers, especially since they did zero songs of the album.

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