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    Default Re: How would you have changed Invincible's tracklist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Yes, I agree! What are your thoughts about Shout?
    I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway. Hope that's ok.
    I was quite disappointed by Shout. The verses I totally loved. But the chorus just sounds so similar to a song with the same title by (I think) Lulu.
    Still better than several Invincible songs in my opinion.

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    Remove You Are My Life

    Add She Was Lovin' Me

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    Default Re: How would you have changed Invincible's tracklist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Yes, I agree! What are your thoughts about Shout?
    I like it. I love how it builds to a climax and then just unleashes fury. Also it was cool to hear Michael use his quick voice again like, Jam and Tabloid Junkie (two of my favourite tracks). You?

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    This is the playlist I put together. I think it’s pretty okay, but could use some adjusting. I’d change the title to “Unbreakable”, like everyone else.

    1. Unbreakable
    2. Break of Dawn
    3. Another Day
    4. You Rock My World
    5. Heartbreaker
    6. Butterflies
    7. We’ve Had Enough
    8. Don’t Walk Away
    9. Blue Gangsta
    10. Whatever Happens
    11. The Way You Love Me
    12. Xscape


    I got rid of Invincible because it didn’t really think it really fit with the songs I ended up choosing. I got rid of everything from Speechless to Privacy because they were the most glaring weak points in the album to me. I got rid of Cry because I think that We’ve Had Enough is a better humanitarian song, has more to say, and says it powerfully. I got rid of “The Lost Children” because to me, it was another weak point, and again, it didn’t really fit. I was hesitant to add The Way You Love Me, but I thought that Whatever Happens transitioning straight into Xscape gave the album a rushed ending. I added Blue Gangsta because I think the album some more momentum after the lows of Don’t Walk Away. I also added Another Day to sort of add some funkiness after the velvety Break of Dawn. That’s pretty much it.

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    I would’ve retired the album to Unbreakable. Also without pulling from any B-Sides or Unreleased music I would’ve made the album shorter with this track order:
    1. Unbreakable
    2. Heartbreaker
    3. Don’t Walk Away
    4. Threatened
    5. You Rock My World
    6. Buttefflies
    7. Speechless
    8. Privacy
    9. Cry
    10. Whatever Happens
    11. You Are My Life

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    I'd just add shout to the tracklist after 2000 Watts. If I'd have to remove a track, I'd remove Privacy

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    Default Re: How would you have changed Invincible's tracklist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Been Told View Post
    I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway. Hope that's ok.
    I was quite disappointed by Shout. The verses I totally loved. But the chorus just sounds so similar to a song with the same title by (I think) Lulu.
    Still better than several Invincible songs in my opinion.
    Yeah that shout chorus is from an old Isley Brother song, I thought it was rather nice that they used it.



    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    I like it. I love how it builds to a climax and then just unleashes fury. Also it was cool to hear Michael use his quick voice again like, Jam and Tabloid Junkie (two of my favourite tracks). You?
    Right on man! My only complaint would be that the verses are a bit to unintelligible. I wish they'd turn up the volume just a little for the verses. Imo the verses shows how great of a lyricist MJ was.

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    I had always felt that the album was too short. So much was recorded during the Invincible sessions that It could easily had been a longer album, maybe even a double disc release. Also, as the album was released with a variety of coloured covers, I would have altered the tracklist for each colour, maybe each having a different bonus track

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    Hmm..... I whould change on the album:

    N O T H I N G !

    I know I was not so amazed with the album when it camed out in 2001 and didn't listen to every song, but today I'm very thankful that the album is what is, love EVERY song and didn't wanna miss one.
    MJ has my compleate respect and adoration for this album!

    What I whould change instead are 3 circumstances in MJs life:
    1. War with sony and that they didn't keep the promise to promote and support the album.
    (He should have maybe decided to make everything under his own Label.)
    It whould have made it possible that we whould have seen more shortfilms, performorces and concerts.
    2. MJ meets the Aviso Family
    3. MJ decided to make a documantary about him together with a journalist and met Bashir.
    He should have made a documantary on his own like the private home movies instead.

    The biggest question when it comes to Invincible is always:
    Why did MJ always hold so much powerful or sometimes better songs back and didn't relese it on a album?

    For me the answer is:
    He wanted to make with them his bigest dream come true to create beautiful powerful movies.

    He wanted this so badly after 2000 and when he could have done this he whould have not only whritten and directed them, he whould also whrite and compose the most of the music!
    So when the three things I mentioned didn't had happened and he could have get the chance to create movies, I am very sure that we whould have heared some of the songs which were not on the 10 regular albums in a Michael Jackson movie (reworked) as part of powerful soundtracks!

    Maybe with this perspective some people could see Invincible in a better light becuase they can maybe better understand why the album is what it is.
    I feel sad that the album didn't get so much honar and celebration and people whould remove so many tracks.
    I am sure MJ always tried to give us the best he could and with Invinceible back when it was recorded it was the best for him at the moment he could and want give! For him his career didn't end in 2001 with the release of this album. He had much bigger and better projects in mind!
    He often said:
    " You have seen nothing yet.
    The best is yet to come."

    For me Invincible is always a unfinished project of MJ simular to This it which is unfair to compare to the finished projects like History or Bad.
    Cause we don't get the short filmes, performances and concerts etc. which were always part of a MJ project.
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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    I didn't notice this thread otherwise I would have posted my latest post in here.

    I've always been disappointed in the album, poor selection of songs, way too long and a retreat to past themes for example privacy, threatened, cry etc. Now in itself that's not a problem but they can't stand ext to anthems like will you be there, why you wanna trip on me or is it scary.
    Then there's you are my life, speechless and the lost children which I find way too corny and safe.

    I know he recorded a lot for this record but given what was actually released I don't have high hopes for the unused tracks.

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    Default Re: What Changes Would You Make to Invincible's Track List?

    I've often thought about this. The album is too long- not for me of course- but for the market. There's a great commercially tight album buried in there.

    If I had any say it would have been as follows

    1. Unbreakable
    2. Heartbreaker
    3. You Rock My World
    4. Butterflies
    5. Break Of Dawn
    6 2000 Watts
    7. Whatever Happens
    8. Cry
    9. Heaven Can Wait
    10.You Are My Life
    11.Invincible

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