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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

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    Faking Michael is an investigative podcast series detailing the 8-year quest for the truth about a collection of 12 allegedly-fake Michael Jackson songs. The songs, known as the Cascio tracks, were sold to Sony by Jackson’s longtime friend, music producer Eddie Cascio, and his collaborative partner, James Porte, in mid 2010 — a year after the singer’s sudden death. Upon hearing them, members of the Jackson family, a number of producers who worked with Michael throughout his career, and thousands of fans around the world accused Cascio and Porte of fraud, insisting that the songs were fakes — sung not by Jackson, but by an impersonator. Undeterred by the controversy, Jackson’s estate and record label insisted the vocals were authentic, officially attributing the Cascio tracks to the King of Pop when three of them were released by Epic Records on the Michael album in December 2010. But strong doubts regarding the authenticity of the tracks remain.


    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/...=1000418631848
    so nothing happened?

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    "Whether or not these are Michael Jacksons vocals is irrelevant, if its non-commercial speak we win, its over" - Michael Jackson Estate Lawyer. This is such a disgrace and its unbelievable this is allowed to go on so many levels. Absolute madness.
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    Sony wins Fake Michael Jackson Recording Claims for Second Time.

    "For a second time, Sony Music beat claims in California state court that it deceived customers about whether some tracks on a posthumous Michael Jackson album were sung by Jackson.

    The Court of Appeal of California affirmed Jan. 8 that Sony’s statements were still protected under state law following a relevant California Supreme Court opinion published after its initial ruling.

    Vera Serova, the Michael Jackson Fan that took the Estate & Sony to court over the 3 fake songs [“Breaking News”, “Monster” & “Keep your Head Up”] has again lost her appeal to prove wrong doing from Sony Music in the promotion of the album “Michael” released in 2010.

    Sony, the Estate of Michael J. Jackson, and MJJ Productions appealed from the superior court’s order partially denying their motion to strike under the anti-SLAPP statute. Plaintiff alleged that defendants marketed a posthumous Michael Jackson album in violation of the Unfair Competition Law (UCL) and the Consumers Legal Remedies Act (CLRA). Plaintiff also brought a fraud claim against the Cascio Defendants, alleging that they knowingly misrepresented to defendants that Jackson was the lead singer on the three tracks at issue.

    Upon reconsideration in light of FilmOn.com Inc. v. Double Verify Inc. (2019) 7 Cal.5th 133, the Court of Appeal held that its prior opinion was correct. In the prior opinion, the court held that plaintiff’s claims against defendants arose from conduct furthering defendants’ right of free speech in connection with a public issue, and that plaintiff did not show a probability that her claims under the UCL and the CLRA would succeed because the claims concern noncommercial speech that is not actionable under those statutes.

    The court largely adopted the prior opinion, except that it revised the discussion of the first step of the anti-SLAPP procedure to take into account the FilmOn decision and its application to the circumstances of this case. The court held that defendants’ challenged statements were sufficiently connected to an issue of public interest to warrant anti-SLAPP protection. In this case, the representations that plaintiff challenged did not simply promote sale of the album, but also stated a position on a disputed issue of public interest."
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    Well this is crazy. the songs are clearly fake. those songs really need to be removed. it's been almost 10 years since this album been release and they still haven't been remove? how the heck did they win? what up with Michael estate? ugh. it's sad this stuff still going on and Michael isn't even here anymore. it's like everybody screwing Michael over. ugh.

    all they need to do is to remove the fake songs and move on with our lives. why is that so hard? ugh.



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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    It’s not over yet.



    Just for the record, I’m not one of the anti-estate people, but in this case they clearly made a huge mistake and they need to own up to it. While it may eventually turn out that it was legal what they did, it is in no way legitimate.
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    I'm not really anti-estate they just need to stop the things they do and do their jobs.



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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    Is there anything besides testimony that shows it's not Michael in the recordings?
    We shall always love you, Michael!


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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazman View Post
    Is there anything besides testimony that shows it's not Michael in the recordings?
    Forensic audiologist Dr. George Papcun did an analysis and concluded it is not Michael.

    See: http://www.damienshields.com/exclusi...ongs-released/

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    Clearly it's isn't Michael. i don't understand why this still going on.



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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    Quote Originally Posted by SoCav View Post
    Forensic audiologist Dr. George Papcun did an analysis and concluded it is not Michael.

    See: http://www.damienshields.com/exclusi...ongs-released/
    Weren't there other forensic audiologist analyses that concluded that it is Michael?
    I haven't thought about this for a really long time, but I vaguely remember that being stated in articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    Weren't there other forensic audiologist analyses that concluded that it is Michael?
    I haven't thought about this for a really long time, but I vaguely remember that being stated in articles.
    When Breaking News was streamed and fans were outraged, the Estate claimed they had hired forensic experts, one of whom they say concluded it was Michael. However, they never told us who these experts were, nor were we given any information about their reports. In other words, who knows if it's even true - we certainly cannot verify it ourselves.

    In contrast, we do have access to Papcun's entire report, and can check his resume. Papcun also says the various methods he used as part of his analysis are much more detailed and accurate than a waveform analysis (which the Estate says their expert conducted).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCav View Post
    In contrast, we do have access to Papcun's entire report, and can check his resume. Papcun also says the various methods he used as part of his analysis are much more detailed and accurate than a waveform analysis (which the Estate says their expert conducted).
    Yup, there’s Papcun’s full report as PDF for everyone to download and read. It’s actually quite interesting to read. It gives some very technical insight into MJ’s singing. I hadn’t seen this before, so thanks for linking it here.
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    ^And into Jason Malachi's

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

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    ^And into Jason Malachi's
    They must've thought we were stupid.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    I just noticed we have Vera’s name wrong in the thread title. It’s “Serova”, according to the court files. Can someone fix this?
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    Quote Originally Posted by SoCav View Post
    ^And into Jason Malachi's
    Is there any real evidence tying this guy in besides "he sounds similar" and some cryptic social media behaviour?
    We shall always love you, Michael!


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