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    Default Estate, Cascio and Porte Sued Over Three Songs on the "Michael" Album - Vera Senova Class Action

    Sued for:

    Violations of the consumers legal remedies act
    Unfair competition
    Fraud



    Michael Jackson -- Fan Sues Estate ... I Don't Hear Enough MJ on His Disc

    One irate Michael Jackson fan is suing his Estate because she thinks MJ was not the lead singer on 3 of his songs on the 2010 CD, "Michael" ... the first release after his death. The woman filed the suit today in L.A. claiming she bought the disc in 2011, but didn't hear enough Michael on 3 particular tracks. In the suit she claims she hired an audio expert to analyze her CD and he determined it was very likely that MJ did not sing lead vocals on "Breaking News" ... "Monster" ... and "Keep Your Head Up." The woman wants this to be a class action -- meaning if the allegation is true the Estate would owe money to everyone who bought the full album, or any of the 3 tracks in question. The Estate's lawyer, Howard Weitzman, has previously said Michael did provide lead vocals for all the tracks on the album.

    Source: TMZ

    The expert who did the analysis:

    Dr. Papcun is a scientist who analyzes sounds, especially the sounds of speech, with regard to their forensic implications. He has been employed by Los Alamos National Laboratory, The Aerospace Corporation and the University of California Phonetics Laboratory. He has served as an expert witness in the United States, Canada and Australia. He has held security clearances at the Secret, Top Secret and Q levels. He has completed projects for the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency and the United States Secret Service. He will consider other challenging assignments.

    Dr. Papcun's expertise includes analysis of recordings, enhancing the intelligibility of recordings, determining whether recordings have been altered, speaker identification, memory for voices, voice lineups, using voice to determine speaker veracity and voice morphing.

    Source: http://soundevidence.com/

    Case files:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/229471634/...e-Cascio-Porte

    From file:

    Ms. Serova later learned several facts suggesting that Michael Jackson did not perform lead vocals on the Cascio tracks. When it became apparent that defendants would not offer further explanation or evidence regarding the authenticity of the Cascio trakcs, Serova engaged independent audio expert Doctor George Papcun to asses whether Jackson had actually performed the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks. After a comprehensive assessment, Dr. Papcun prepared a report and concluded that it was very likely that Michael Jackson did not sing the lead vocals on the Cascio trakcs. Counsel subsequently had Dr. Papcun's expert report peer reviewed by another well-credentialed independent audio expert who concluded that Dr. Papcun's methodologies and conclusions were reasonable.


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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Just in time to add to MJ fans' stellar reputation. What about returning the damn CD and asked for your money back...THREE YEARS AGO.
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Quote Originally Posted by Memefan View Post
    Just in time to add to MJ fans' stellar reputation. What about returning the damn CD and asked for your money back...THREE YEARS AGO.
    This is about more than just getting some dollars back, and you know that,
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Quote Originally Posted by Memefan View Post
    Just in time to add to MJ fans' stellar reputation. What about returning the damn CD and asked for your money back...THREE YEARS AGO.
    Your post is disgraceful. Whenever this issue was discussed the (imo incredibly weak) argument of "well if you are so sure of yourself why don't you take it to court?" was always mentioned. But of course now that someone is actually doing this, she's called a loon and an imbecile.

    I think it is a very brave step by this fan. I salute her!
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    I have also said why no one brings it in court (and I think that was not a weak argument), instead of collecting money for books or wining in blogs. So I think that's a good step and the matter can be resolved.
    So now we can all waiting for the results.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Quote Originally Posted by Annita View Post
    I have also said why no one brings it in court (and I think that was not a weak argument), instead of collecting money for books or wining in blogs. So I think that's a good step and the matter can be resolved.
    So now we can all waiting for the results.
    It's weak when that's the only response given in a discussion about the authenticity of the track where the other side presents arguments concerning MJ's voice, the debunked 'explanations' Eddie & co gave, the lack of proof given by the Estate, the contradictions, etc. It's a fair point in and of itself, but very weak as a sole counter-argument in that discussion.

    I think people who say that completely ignore what something like this entails. You have to find legal counsel that is willing to take up the case, you need to have enough information about the situation to present a case, you need to have something that will give you a reasonable chance in court, etc. The expert analysis this fan had conducted is very useful (and, even though we do not know the details yet, it already holds more weight than the Estate's supposed analysis, simply because the court documents list the name of the expert who analyzed it). But all these things cost money and time. Then there's the stress of going up against a big company that surrounds all of this... No matter how much they care about Michael, people have lives to lead and bills to pay. That's why I really respect this fan for doing this. It's obviously not about making a quick buck at all.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    any true MJ fan knew this all along anyways

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    ^Whoops, I actually didn't mean to thank your post, but wanted to reply to it.

    I think even in a hypothetical situation where all fans agreed that it is not MJ (which clearly not every fan does) it is still important that this is established in a court of law. Until either that, or a confession by one of the people involved, happens, these tracks will remain a part of MJ's official discography. Which is an absolute disgrace.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Amazing. Finally! This made my day. Please Pentum, Damien Shields, Stella and others who have all the necessary evidences, please provide them to the fan who is suing.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    I'm actually glad, hopefully it will finally put this all to rest. Sony and Branca (not McLain) are also named.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Pants Girl View Post
    Branca (not McLain) are also named.
    That's interesting. Branca is being sued at his executor capacity (not personally), McClain should also be sued in that capacity.
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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Haha. This is hilarious (and long overdue).

    I hope she wins.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this. Let it go already

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Holyy shit dude!! Finallyy!!!
    You inspired me to dream big. You taught me to love unconditionally. You taught me to do unto others, what thou does to self. And most of all you taught me not judge until the truth sets on free. And because of it all...I Love You, Michael. And I always will.

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    Default Re: Estate, Cascio & Porte sued - Forensic Analysis says MJ is NOT singing the 3 songs on "MICHAEL"

    Quote Originally Posted by Pentum View Post
    This is about more than just getting some dollars back, and you know that, imbecile.
    And you will see how "great publicity" it will become,especially at that time (June 13 and also 5 years after his death)for Michael Jackson's fans. I can bet right now that the action is taken by one of the media outlet (in disguise of course) for the story. It's really not expensive at all for the media to do it (when they used to pay hundred thousand of dollars for the stories). To tell the true I really don't mind the lawsuit (because it would be a good opportunity to find the truth. I just mind the time for that kind controversy if Eddie Cascio will be able to prove that it is Michael on the tapes. Of course it would show the delusion of Michael's fans. But before the court day the media will have a lot of fan with speculating about the subject. Most of fans who can not understand why Cascio didn't show any proof before should just to look closer into the ways this family live. Except Frank no other Cascio wrote the book about Michael's day to day living and definitely parents and especially Connie Cascio would have a lot more to say (since she was the one who assisted with Blanket first day in this world) because they remember more. This family (except Frank) just don't like any publicity and they try to avoid it like a fire IMO. Anyway we will see how it develop, however I personally worry that it's a publicity stunt. Remember, today is a very good day in history for Michael Jackson but I'm not sure if the media will focus on that. Rather they can focus on this lawsuit as well as Safechack stories. So there is nothing to be happy about. It just not the right time for this lawsuit.
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