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    I think some of the biggest missed opportunity's were a live performance of Give Into Me with Slash. I never understood why that never happened, and The Making Of Thriller having a DVD/Blu Ray release for Thriller 25. That one should have been a no brainer.

    Can anyone else think of anymore missed opportunity's throughout Michael's career?

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    I think there are many missed opportunities. Especially because of the Estate. Such as STTR. They should have released the song when the hologram was revealed.

    - Another one is that Remember The Time should have been released as the first single instead of BoW. Black or White was going to be a #1 hit single anyway. #1 is written all over that song. People were excited anyway when Michael Jackson released a new song. Remember The Time could benefit of the excitement and be #1.

    - Earth Song should have been released as a single instead of This Time Around. That single was a #1 hit as well.

    - Scream should have been performed together with Janet Jackson at least one time.

    - Michael should have recorded more songs with Janet. Either on his album or her album. Especially after or during the Rhythm Nation era, because Janet was big during that time.

    - Dangerous should have been released earlier as a single instead of planning it as the last release. That song is a killer, and the choreography makes the song even better.

    I agree with Give In To Me. A live performance with Slash would be hyped. Michael’s performance with Slash was already amazing. Imagine performing it live!

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    The hbo special was one in my opinion.. perfect timing for a project like that!!


    Obviously more advertising for invincible. Spent too much time/energy fighting Sony to promote it.
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    So many missed opportunities in Michael's career. Here are a few:

    1) Not releasing Working Day & Night as a single. This is a sure top 5 hit at least and it remains one of his Michael's most popular non-singles. Unfortunately Girlfriend was released as the final single from Off The Wall, which kind of killed the Off The Wall era.

    2) Thriller era was huge. but the only thing that was missing was a performance from Michael at an award show. I never understand why Michael never performed at Grammys 1984 or AMA 1984 or both. He attended both shows and won plenty of awards. Not performed at those shows is a missed opportunity imo.

    3) Not performing Scream with Janet at the VMA awards 1995. Both attended the show and Michael performed. Surely him and Janet could have performed Scream that night.

    4) Agree with Doggone that Dangerous should have been released as a single much sooner. I personally would have released as the 3rd single after Black or White and Remember the Time. Not releasing Dangerous as a single is a tragedy, because I'm sure we would have got a killer music video for it. Such a shame that Dangerous never got released as a single, because it's one of Michael's best songs and even critics give it a very positive reception.

    5) Agree with the OP that Give in to Me should have been performed with Slash or without him. I personally would have dropped Beat It from the set list after the Bad Tour. I never liked Beat It live to begin with. I don't think Michael sounded that good when he sang it live and the whole cherry picker routine had gone stale by Dangerous Tour. It should have been replaced by GITM on Dangerous Tour as the rock song.

    6) The whole Invincible era. The album isn't Michael's greatest but there are some brilliant songs on the album that are hit material. Just a shame that Michael and Sony had a falling out.

    7) Michael not releasing a Christmas album. I know this one wasn't be very popular with most MJ fans, but I think MJ's legacy could have been so much bigger if he had a Christmas album as an adult. I know due to his upbringing, he didn't really celebrate Christmas until much later in his life, but I so wish he had released a Christmas album as an adult. That's how the likes of Elvis stays ahead of him in sales. Michael appears on charts throughout the year, while Elvis doesn't. Yet during the Christmas season, Elvis' many Christmas albums make a return to the charts and sell just as much as Michael does for the entire year. Not releasing a Christmas album is a massive missed opportunity imo.

    8) Not releasing Slave To The Rhythm as a single. The hype for STTR was huge. after the hologram performance. The song made it #45 on the Billboard hot 100, despite it not being a single. Not imagine if it was released as a single and properly promoted, it was a top 10 hit. What a wasted opportunity that was by the Estate and Sony.

    That's it for now. I might add some more missed opportunities later on.
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    Collabo with Prince
    Kraftwerk turning down working with Mike
    The Beatles covers album that was announced in the mid-1980s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    I think some of the biggest missed opportunity's were a live performance of Give Into Me with Slash. I never understood why that never happened, and The Making Of Thriller having a DVD/Blu Ray release for Thriller 25. That one should have been a no brainer.

    Can anyone else think of anymore missed opportunity's throughout Michael's career?
    I agree with the giving to me thing. It's such a amazing song and he never performed it live. I also believe he should have done a duet with Whitney. It would ahve been a real blow if he could've done it. And album invincible should have got more recongnition as the collection of songs in it reveals is a different side of muchaels musical capability.

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    Ohh - so many many missed opportunities.

    HBO One Night Special - should have been re-scheduled.

    More shows like HBO special - maybe something like MTV Unplugged - would have given him a legacy as a good live singer too.

    More performances at awardshows and TV shows. - with NO playback.

    Singing live is a missed opportunity really.

    Christmas album - MJ could have dominated the charts every Christmas had he released 1-2 good Christmas albums. And since I love Christmas from a very selfies point of view I would have loved him to release an adult Christmas album or 2.

    Better promotion of Invincible, more concerts and more performances at awardshows, TV-shows etc. - maybe a litle tour.

    It was a shame he didn't change more songs in his tours. BAD is almost the same as the tour he did before with his brothers - especially 1st leg. Dangerous had some changes - but he could have changed the set-list a lot more from concert to concert so he at one point performed all his songs live.

    So many of his great songs were never performed live.
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    Get On The Floor should have been released as a single. That song has dance floor filler written all over it

    A live performance of The Girl Is Mine, Say Say Say, and The Man with Paul McCartney
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    Singles released after 1987 sung live.

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    So many...

    Who Is It, Give In To Me, Stranger in Moscow, 2Bad, Is it Scary, Butterflies, Whatever Happens and other songs sung live...

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    - Thriller 25 was a terrible release. Michael messed up by not releasing any unreleased songs on T25. Bad 25 was a very good release as it featured 6 unreleased songs from the Bad sessions. Thrilled 25 had one new song that was from the Dangerous era. Songs such as Behind The Mask, Nite Line, Hot Street, Best of Joy (Thriller version) should have been on T25.

    - Speaking of Thriller 25, it was a commercial success and I do wish Michael had used its success as inspiration to release a new album in 2008. I do think that was a missed opportunity. I also didn't like the idea of This Is It, doing concerts without a supporting album.

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    Default Re: Missed opportunity's

    This thread is already making me angry and sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hess View Post
    Christmas album - MJ could have dominated the charts every Christmas had he released 1-2 good Christmas albums. And since I love Christmas from a very selfies point of view I would have loved him to release an adult Christmas album or 2.
    The Jackson 5 Christmas album still sells and the songs get airplay at Christmastime. It'll be like Johnny Mathis if Mike has several. They'll cancel each other out. Christmas albums don't usually chart high on the Billboard 200 albums other than a few acts like Mannheim Steamroller. Mike could have did a song or two. Wham!'s most popular song is Last Christmas and it was not from a Christmas album, it was on a regular album Music From The Edge Of Heaven. It was originally just a non-album single.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamyyy View Post
    This thread is already making me angry and sad!
    Me too...... I'm not gonna comment on what people write here, it would just get me banned...... perhaps the word "ungrateful" comes to mind... that's all I'm gonna say....
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    dragging the HIStory era into 1998

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