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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alh21 View Post
    Is this bloke for real, before he met them two he didn't know who MJ was, erm who hasn't heard of Michael Jackson, and then goes on to say that he thought paedophiles were people who dragged kids into back alleys, wtf, how old is he three. he doesn't do himself any favours does he, what a turkey.
    He meant that he didn't know anything about Michael, not that he didn't know who he was. That's not possible for a British person of his age.


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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anna View Post
    He meant that he didn't know anything about Michael, not that he didn't know who he was. That's not possible for a British person of his age.
    I'd say it was nigh on impossible for someone of his age not to have read about the 2005 court case. (Reed would have been aged around 40-41 during the media coverage)
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    I'd say it was nigh on impossible for someone of his age not to have read about the 2005 court case. (Reed would have been aged around 40-41 during the media coverage)
    Well I'm assuming he meant as a person, not about events that were all over the news and everyone heard about.


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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Estate comments on the Emmy:

    Michael Jackson's estate was not going allow him or the film to bask in the glory too long...

    “For a film that is a complete fiction to be honored in a nonfiction Emmy category is a complete farce. Not one shred of proof supports this completely one-sided. so-called documentary which was made in secrecy and for which not one person outside of the two subjects and their families were interviewed.” a spokesperson of the estate said in reaction to the win.

    They also pointed out them film only won 1 of the 5 Emmy's it was nominated for and had the chance to take home.
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Elton-Cetera View Post
    Nope! That doesn't look like Nancy Abraham or Lisa Heller of HBO, the other winners. Does anyone know who that woman is in the picture with Reed and Safechuck?
    The woman he has his arm around appears to be Safechuck's wife.

    Nancy Abraham (Producer) was also pictured with Safechuck and Reed - she's wearing a plainer black dress without the 'lace panel' front.
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    Estate comments on the Emmy:

    Michael Jackson's estate was not going allow him or the film to bask in the glory too long...
    “For a film that is a complete fiction to be honored in a nonfiction Emmy category is a complete farce. Not one shred of proof supports this completely one-sided. so-called documentary which was made in secrecy and for which not one person outside of the two subjects and their families were interviewed.” a spokesperson of the estate said in reaction to the win.

    They also pointed out them film only won 1 of the 5 Emmy's it was nominated for and had the chance to take home.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I'm upset that they even won anything but whatever! Let those losers have their little moment.

    I hope that the MJ estate wins in court.

    I'm just so sick of the this crap. The desperation to "cancel" Michael. It's sickening.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Even apart from how I feel about MJ, I find it stunning that they would call this one-sided interview a good example of a documentary. Somehow manipulation is everything and truth is nothing.
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anna View Post
    Well I'm assuming he meant as a person, not about events that were all over the news and everyone heard about.
    How would we know what he meant, everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    From a fan on Twitter:

    ''... an interesting issue about Wade. Why didn't he attend? Why did he schedule a dance class the day after that he still seems to be begging for people to attend for only $25 today as though looking for an excuse to not be there?''

    Also, I'm wondering if they might all turn up together to the main HBO awards party on the 22nd Sept., after the main awards event.



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    Or maybe they didn't think it was a good idea to have them all together, just in case they condradict each other

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    stunned to see that fame hungry rat wade robson not appear

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I had totally forgotten about that award show. It's so disgusting and at the same time absolutely not shocking at all that it won an award. Sponsored by HBO, what more do you need to know really?

    A "documentary" that is now so easy to prove as nothing but fiction, disgusting lies made by actual criminals , but this wins an award. Yet Untouchable didn't win a thing?

    **** this world.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    No surprise.. HBO sponser the show..who cares its old hat. The doc has been shown to be packed with provern lies. Mjs popularity has gone up since. NEXT
    Agreed. I don't want to dwell on this too much either. I just hope one thing these three will get what's coming to them because it's just ****ing horrible how these ****ing assholes are getting away with it. There is so much wrong with this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMaryFlint View Post
    Even apart from how I feel about MJ, I find it stunning that they would call this one-sided interview a good example of a documentary. Somehow manipulation is everything and truth is nothing.
    Dont worry, it will backfire. This is more from hollywood than the public. Again, MJ is used as the "scapegoat". This trash airs next week (watch they will not show Dan Reed and this award on the aired tv next week). Sometimes, getting an award can open up a can of worms and expose more.
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    'Pride comes before a fall'. The actors in this fraudulent film still have the results of their court appeal to look forward to. I doubt the 'real' judges will be taken in by their legal claims.
    They've been living in a publicity bubble promoted by Reed and their legal firm all this year. Lets see how they get on once the Hollywood and media cavalcade has left them behind. I predict they'll fast become irrelevant.

    Incidentally, this vid. appears to be a backstage Q and A at the Emmys, with Dan Reed.

    He appears to lie (again) when he says of his subject area :'I don't come from that field. (0.26) ''My subject area was terrorism, war and crime etc''. Reed made the film 'The Paedophile Hunter' in 2014, so following alleged paedophiles was entirely his recent subject area.

    Interesting that the questions he gets from the press are quite desultory- they don't seem to care much about the film or his answers. ie there's no follow-up to his answers.

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    I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Emmys offiical Q&A session specifically banned any journalist asking about the many debunked aspects of Leaving Neverland.

    As for Reed, well he can't help himself. He just has to lie in every Q&A. When the LN promo machine was getting into fully swing "The Paedophile Hunters" was frequently mentioned as part of his filmography and now he claims 'I don't come from that field" and ''My subject area was terrorism, war and crime etc''? It's so obvious it's laughable that TV critics and journos just allow him to get away with it.

    As for his continued claims that he researched this whole thing thoroughly well that's an even bigger issue.
    As soon as he comes out with that it then even the most inexperienced journalists should be shouting out with questions specificlaly targeting the MANY issues found.

    WHY did you not include any of the evidence that shows they're lying bastards?

    Or at least include BOTH sides of the story? Once you've read the many changing and contradictory stories of the accusers, once you've read that some a simpy impossible, it is completely irresponsible to exclude those from a film with a 4 hour run time and padded out by pointless drone shots. Especially for a "documentary" which people rightly expect to be informative and accurate. At the very least they don't expect information to be omitted to the extent that they are mislead. They don't expect video and audio to be maliciously edited to incriminate.

    With Reed's claims that he researched thoroughly the only possible response is that it was a film designed to incriminate Jackson at all costs. And THAT should tell everybody all they need to know. It was a hit piece, NOT a documentary and the Emmys are a fraud.

    when the Emmy nominations were announced it was said online that the Emmys team confirmed that a film's accuracy wasn't taken into account when being nominated for an award in a documentary category. In other words, a deeply flawed, misleading, inaccurate film could be nominated and win a documentary award as long as it was shot in a documentary style (and that's exactly what just happened), because the nominators/voters wouldn't be required to consider its accuracy. Mind blown!

    Did anybody else see that?
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