Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[elusive moonwalker]

No doubt hes looking at a follow up. No other reason. That mjs boys was jack perritti the one who recently did the BBC one after L.N. hes done several hatchett jobs on mj yet lies and claims to be a fan inorder to make his documented lies and bias appear more credible. Total scum.

[myosotis]

No doubt hes looking at a follow up. No other reason. That mjs boys was jack perritti the one who recently did the BBC one after L.N. hes done several hatchett jobs on mj yet lies and claims to be a fan inorder to make his documented lies and bias appear more credible. Total scum.

I'm sure he is, but the point of 'Michael Jackson's Boys' was that it was made specifically to sway public opinion before the 2005 trial, and it hadn't occurred to me that DR would likely try to do the same thing timing-wise

(Though of course this time we hope the case will be thrown out and there will be no trial.)

[elusive moonwalker]

Yeah i agree defo try to sway But will a usa network pick it up after the L.N mess. But i wouldnt worry its along way off. I doubt it will get anywhere near that. Either that or a docu to twist how the big bad estate got the cases thrown out and look at these poor victims

[myosotis]

Not LN related, but Dan's not having a good week. Some of his former colleagues were injured in the attack in Paris. I hope they will make a good recovery.

Documentary Producers Injured in Knife Attack Near Former Charlie Hebdo Office in Paris

Two people severely injured in a knife attack outside the former Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo are staff at production company Premieres Lignes, which made HBO documentary “Three Days of Terror: The Charlie Hebdo Attacks.”

Variety has confirmed with Premieres Lignes co-director Paul Moreira that two of the company’s producers were involved in the attack.

Premieres Lignes in 2015 produced the film “Three Days of Terror” with “Leaving Neverland” helmer Dan Reed. The film aired on HBO, the BBC and France 2, and was nominated for two 2017 News & Documentary Emmy Awards, including outstanding investigative documentary and research. The company’s offices are believed to be in close proximity to the former Charlie Hebdo offices.

The Associated Press (AP) has reported that police have now arrested what they believe to be a suspect in the incident.

The Charlie Hebdo trial is currently underway in Paris.

https://variety.com/2020/politics/gl...is-1234783561/

[myosotis]

In other Reed News, 'LN' came second after 'Don't F*ck with Cats' in the Televisual Bulldog awards for a documentary series.

https://www.televisual-bulldogs.com/documentary-series/

[myosotis]

It's being reported that Prime Minister Boris Johnson has offered the 'Ofcom' Chairmanship to Paul Dacre, who was the Editor of the Daily Mail from July 2002 and subsequently the Mail Group's Editor in Chief, and from Oct '18 was Chairman of Associated Newspapers, part of the Mail's Holding Group.

Bearing in mind that we know Reed is aiming to make 'LN2', and Ofcom is the UK TV regulator (with oversight of such things as impartiality and accuracy of TV programmes) what could we expect of Dacre as Ofcom Chairman?

Well, here's an example of how he treated MJ, when he was Editor at the 'Faily Mail':

Sat 23 Nov 2002 01.13 GMT

Mail's photo doctoring infuriates agency

Airbrush used on Michael Jackson image on front page

Sat 23 Nov 2002 01.13 GMT
The Mail merged two Reuters pictures of Jackson taking his children for a walk in a Berlin zoo with veils over their faces. The paper also airbrushed out Jackson's security personnel, making the singer appear a more lonely figure. It superimposed the headline "Is he fit to be a dad?".

The action might breach the press complaints commission's code of practice, part one of which states: "Newspapers and periodicals must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted material, including pictures."

It is thought the Mail could argue that the pictures were not inaccurate, misleading or distorted - because the point of the montage was to show that Jackson's children were veiled. It might say that the airbrushing was merely to "tidy up" the picture, in order to make it clearer.

In its contracts with publishers Reuters makes clear that it forbids alterations of any kind. It is understood that the agency is furious with those made by the Daily Mail.

A spokesman for the agency said: "Obviously we take it very seriously, because we do not permit any doctoring of our text or pictures. We have taken it up with the Mail, but as yet we have not yet received a response to our request for an explanation."

The picture was used on Thursday to illustrate a front-page story that began: "This is a family day out - Michael Jackson style. Their heads covered in red veils, his son Prince Michael, five, and four-year-old daughter Paris Michael tour Berlin Zoo with their father."

The paper described the "bizarre sight" as adding to concerns over the singer's "increasingly odd behaviour". A day earlier he had been pictured dangling his baby son, called Prince Michael II, over the balcony of his Berlin hotel. The story continued in a double-page spread inside the paper.

Paul Dacre, the Daily Mail editor, is one of the 16 PCC commissioners, who decide on complaints against newspapers. If any complaint is made, Mr Dacre would not be involved in the decision. The PCC's mission statement says: "Editors and publishers must ensure the code is observed rigorously."

Reuters will decide next week what action to take. It could either make a PCC complaint, or threaten to withdraw its contract with the Mail; the second is regarded as more likely. A referral to the PCC would be a rare instance of one media organisation complaining against another.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/...sandpublishing

(I couldn't find information about how this Reuters dispute was resolved, unfortunately).

Today's 'Ofcom Chairmanship offer' news story is referenced here:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/p...-a4557201.html

[terrell]

The only "odd behavior" was the behavior of these paper. This trash paper was not qualified to pass judgement on MJ or anyone else. Low class bigots.

[elusive moonwalker]

Well thats no surprise. We know offcom is a toothless tiger. All show when in reality its run by the ppl its supposed to be controlling

[Anna]

Ofcom failed regarding LN, but they did get thousands of complaints recently over Diversity's BLM performance on Britain's Got Talent, and they dismissed them. Gotta respect that.
Putting someone from the Daily Fail in charge of Ofcom would be disgusting, but there are no limits to the depths that the current Tories are willing to sink to, so I can't say I'm surprised.

[myosotis]

Nice find by a fan on Twitter..

(Carl Beech falsely accused senior UK politicians, an ex prime-minister and military top brass of CSA, and is now in prison for fraud and perverting the course of justice. A documentary about him was recently aired on UK TV. Theroux is a big pal and supporter of Reed's.)

[dam2040]

Nice find by a fan on Twitter..

(Carl Beech falsely accused senior UK politicians, an ex prime-minister and military top brass of CSA, and is now in prison for fraud and perverting the course of justice. A documentary about him was recently aired on UK TV. Theroux is a big pal and supporter of Reed's.)

Theroux is a nutcase obsessed with MJ in the worst way. He got caught out with his pal Savile and tries to deflect it onto Mike. Also follows Bret Barnes on Twitter.

[NatureCriminal7896]

People who are obsess wanting Michael to be guilty needs to find REAL GUILTY PEOPLE and talk about it. i'm sure if they do they probably will find something good out of it.

but like michael said it's all about the money and michael was/still is a target for money after all these years. sad. smh.

[elusive moonwalker]

Most ppl who act like that when it comes to mj seem to be
throwing stones to hide their hands

[myosotis]

I can't decide if Spike is 'trolling' HBO, in choosing to write 'TRUTH' on his mask.... (Not that voting has anything to do directly with HBO, of course).



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https://www.shootonline.com/video/en...for_the_week=0

[terrell]

Most ppl who act like that when it comes to mj seem to be
throwing stones to hide their hands

I agree. Look now at Kimberly Guilfoyle. She was hard on MJ during his trial in 2005 (fans use to call het "bass mouth" during the trial. Look at what she is going through now. She was one who degraded MJ settlement and thought he was guilty,
now look at her even if she id innocent. It never fails