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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Guys I've been wondering ever since we got the stuff about Johnny Depp yesterday. When the LA PD did the raid on Neverland, surely they retrieved camera footage and what not? We all know Michael has been cleared of any wrongdoing. Now I have no idea if there was a cam inside the places James and Wade claimed the abuse happened, but if there were..... the police should have all that footage, right?

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDam View Post
    I still haven't watched the full doc, think I seen most of it though, I've missed parts here and there, also the version I watched was cut in the first place. I seen some interviews, the Oprah one and others, and read some documents.

    I am a Michael fan, I'm a victim of csa, I don't find wade credible, I don't understand how people find wade more credible than james. there's a lot of info and stuff that goes against Wade. If I had to believe either of them it'd be James, not because of the sexual things he says happened between he and mj, because no I can't believe that about mj, I can't wrap my head around it. But to me he is the more credible one for various reasons.

    And now I just seen an old news report that shows mj apparently shopping for rings with a boy in Simi Valley where James was from.
    Still not clear if this is james. Does James say where they went ring shopping?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hotstreek...42672616513536

    At one point James did have long hair. These pics I think from around same time as this video 1989

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HO3TUxKQTw...0/012ff790.jpg

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gqex0jRN66...safechuck7.jpg

    Also just putting it out there, the photoshoot of mj and James, you know the one where mj is in dark blue kinda military style jacket, and James in red t shirt, makes me uncomfortable. Not saying anything, just being honest.

    Edit: Saw this on twitter. James references this shopping trip in his civil complaint. States the same name and same place of the jewellery store and that mj was in disguise, all same as in the news report video. I'll have to look up the full thing to see if he actually claims they bought a ring there, for this mock 'wedding' lol. Doesn't seem so from this snippet https://mobile.twitter.com/morromoco...81677265502209
    What make out of this?
    I think James knew about the existance of this video years ago and simply find the inspiration to spin a whole story around this.
    Last edited by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona; 14-03-2019 at 12:14 PM.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glanni View Post
    do we know why james said in 2005 that mj was a „bad man“?

    this is something i am wondering about and haters definitely know how to interpret it.
    We don't even know if he really said that or not.
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Does someone know the exect date when the maid was fired from MJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    Does someone know the exect date when the maid was fired from MJ?
    If you're trying to discredit the maid, look no further than this thread... https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status...92314386817025
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    Does someone know the exect date when the maid was fired from MJ?
    This the chubby one with horrible make-up? I get these clowns mixed up. She's the one that thinks she doesn't owe the estate any money now because 'well..Michaels dead now...so'

    Whoever asked what media was picking it up, its not much but some articles are floating around now, maybe from smaller sources. The express (shit paper I know) did one covering Brandi's part of the story.Maybe thats nothing but I think its progress

    Edit: maybe someone could inform the estate that she's off shooting her mouth again and that she's under the impression she doesn't owe them anything. If she seriously thinks that debt died with Michael then she can't have paid them anything for 10 years now? I don't know how these things work mind you
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildStyle View Post
    If you're trying to discredit the maid, look no further than this thread... https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status...92314386817025
    Thank you very much.
    This also a very good informative video about the maid from "Mean Machine":

    https://youtu.be/bYB5QxbFdqI

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    What make out of this?
    I think James knew about the existance of this video years ago and simply find the inspiration to spin a whole story around this.
    I don't find the handholding uncomfortable, in a way he treated this kids like it were his. Sure, they weren't, but still. Problem is, haters are gonna say he was always traveling with boys, holding their hands, never with a girl. Hell I've seen those comments several times actually now. People make something sinister out of it.

    The whole ring and ceremony thing is straight out Of Victor's book, to that I would say.... enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glanni View Post
    do we know why james said in 2005 that mj was a „bad man“?

    this is something i am wondering about and haters definitely know how to interpret it.
    we don't know because it's a story he made
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Where about does Safechuck say the wedding happened in 1988, or that the Euro Disney honeymoon happened in 88?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glanni View Post
    do we know why james said in 2005 that mj was a „bad man“?

    this is something i am wondering about and haters definitely know how to interpret it.
    We don't even know for sure that James said this back in 2005 because his testimony wasn't needed or even allowed. All we have is him years and years after the trial claiming he called him a bad man back then.

    If we look at how credible he has been so far........

    I think I'm going with buuuuuulllllcrap.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I don't know what to do to have my pseudo in blue and to be able to post without permission but apparently, according to MJVibe's twitter, they removed MJ from Grévin Museum in Montréal...


    The reason :
    "It is often the case that some personalities get removed from the museum for repair or maintenance. As they are made of wax, they are very fragile. Every day a team of 3 experts ensure all the wax works are presentable. […] It is a pure hazard that this specific statue was removed”

    – Kathleen Payette – General Manager of Musée Grévin


    Sure, a coincidence, I don't believe them. The boycott continues and there's nothing we can do.

    How a documentary can provoke all this boycott? It wasn't like that during the 93 and 05 trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.D View Post
    Where about does Safechuck say the wedding happened in 1988, or that the Euro Disney honeymoon happened in 88?
    i had to read that twice.
    i have to read / catch up - this thread goes like the clappers!

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Huge revelations are happening but the people that come with them get attacked. Razorfist has been facing tons of hate and pathetic comments, people attacking him etc. It's utterly sad and pathetic that even when they have these facts and proof thrown in their ugly faces they still want to deny it or worse attack the person providing these facts.

    **** those people, seriously, just **** them.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by Staffordshire Bullterrier View Post
    Huge revelations are happening but the people that come with them get attacked. Razorfist has been facing tons of hate and pathetic comments, people attacking him etc. It's utterly sad and pathetic that even when they have these facts and proof thrown in their ugly faces they still want to deny it or worse attack the person providing these facts.

    **** those people, seriously, just **** them.
    Please tell him that he simply should close the commentsection under his videos to get peace.
    Its in general a good idea for videos about LN to close the comment sections to stop painful insulting hater attacks and hater reports to youtube of MJ defenders.
    Cause when they are sucessful we will lose all our comments we have wrote for hours and maybe videos we have created about the subject.
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