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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    Can we ask someone with enough knowlage when the "secret" closet in MJs bedroom suite in Neverland was build were James claims he was abused and if it is right that MJ kept a lot of jewreys there what he woud give James after they had sex?
    I can't say with 100% certainty, but I think that "secret" closet was already built into the house when MJ bought it.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    Jacobshagen is talking about suing people who called him a liar for talking about MJ's 'heavy drug use' and 'shadow side'. he doesn't mention any abuse in this FB post, although his intentions in his Australian TV interview were very clear on that point.

    He maintains that he has evidence 'that he is not a liar' but of course we know that his 'MJ signed letters' etc are forged by him.
    I wonder if he is planning to sue all the people who said his MJ letters are forgeries, too?
    I understand that the German police authorities are still looking into the evidence, and I had the impression from the last information I read that action against Jacobshagen on these fakes might not be too far away. (Hopefully!)
    Oh I thought he said in this post that he "realized" the abuse too, just like Wade. He's just too ridiculous for words and I really hope he won't find a platform for his "documentary" at all. If it does air, hopefully it flops even harder than LN, it very likely will.

    I saw that video last week where he's exposed and the woman that is investigating him, Chantal Obrist asked all the victims of the fake autographs and memorabilia to come forward because he needs to be charged. From that interview, which I think is the most recent I didn't yet get the impression they were getting close to really nailing him. As Chantal said he makes up stories on the spot as long as they suit him the best. Claiming MJ called him, invited him to HIStory tour etc, when all it was was a one day meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctracy34 View Post
    I can't say with 100% certainty, but I think that "secret" closet was already build into the house when MJ bought it.
    I know that the room was there when he bought the Ranch.
    But was the closet or bathroom also always in it?

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    and will make MJ haters jelous when people share this.

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    I started a new thread to debunk the Park footage of MJ and James which was obviously wrongfully used in LN to manipulate the viewer.

    https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...-James-and-MJ!

    To debunk it we have to find out in which MJ documentery it was used in the closing credits.
    Then it is prooven from James himself that on the footage was nothing sinister because it was shoot before the abuse had started in 1987 in LA and not on the badtour.
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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Was the 'secret closet' not raided by the fbi? Or found?

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    "Google reveals Michael Jackson's Purity" from "inaworldoflove"
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    and will make MJ haters jelous when people share this.
    This is so awesome!

    Just call my name and I'll be there.

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    Just saw on Twitter a clip of a truck in Amsterdam with MJ Innocent on it, great stuff. This was to go against McDonald's but also Paradiso who apparently canned a tribute, ****ing assholes.

    Also a clip of Janet performing Scream live with the clip displayed above the stage.

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    i miss m

    My SuperMoon and my SuperSun
    Rest In peace dear M.

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    This is why I hope the rebuttal comes out this year, even though I doubt it. I am so ****ing tired of hearing about tributes being canceled, statues being removed, all because of a JOKE of a "documentary" which only requires minimal research to see how it's all based on lies. MeToo really can **** right off.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    I know that the room was there when he bought the Ranch.
    But was the closet or bathroom also always in it?

    -----------

    Thats good!

    "Google reveals Michael Jackson's Purity" from "inaworldoflove"
    877 views on April 8 2019



    and will make MJ haters jelous when people share this.

    --------

    I started a new thread to debunk the Park footage of MJ and James which was obviously wrongfully used in LN to manipulate the viewer.

    https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...-James-and-MJ!

    To debunk it we have to find out in which MJ documentery it was used in the closing credits.
    Then it is prooven from James himself that on the footage was nothing sinister because it was shoot before the abuse had started in 1987 in LA and not on the badtour.
    The info about the clip is on tscm twitter

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Actually I think one of the purposes (or at least "benefits" for some) of LN is to derail the metoo movement as well.
    If LN is in the spotlight it can distract attention from real predators for a long time (remember Reed is planning a sequel). For the time being it's working unfortunately.
    If LN is debunked completely it can be used by some to discredit the metoo movement and cast doubt on real victims as well in the future - it's also good news for the real culprits.

    A sad state of affairs.
    I look to greet the stars
    But there's no stars to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    The info about the clip is on tscm twitter
    What do you men with this?
    Did someone else pick it up already and debunked it?

    I think I can't see it as a non twitter member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staffordshire Bullterrier View Post
    This is why I hope the rebuttal comes out this year, even though I doubt it. I am so ****ing tired of hearing about tributes being canceled, statues being removed, all because of a JOKE of a "documentary" which only requires minimal research to see how it's all based on lies. MeToo really can **** right off.
    Looks like Bill Wyman is also getting heat due to #meetoo according to BBC website.

    A film festival has dropped ex-Rolling Stone Bill Wyman from its bill after protests stemming from his relationship with a teenage girl in the 1980s.

    The bassist had been due to do a Q&A session at June's Sheffield Doc/Fest and appear at the European premiere of a documentary about him, The Quiet One.

    The festival pulled the plug on both after receiving an online backlash.

    The rocker courted controversy after he met Mandy Smith in 1984, when she was 13 and he was 47.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Can someone who is close to badtour staffmembers like Jennifer Batten ask some intreresting questions in a e-mail like if she can remember on which occasions James performed with MJ or were around him during the bad tour and if the Safechucks stood with the other tour staff in the same hotel with James esspecially in Paris?

    Cause we know from the Glenda Tapes that MJ never stood in the same Hotel with his tour staff.

    James also described in his complaint that he was not constantly on the tour cause he must went back home sometimes to go to school.
    So it would be interesting to know on exectly which occasions James was present and on which not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volitional View Post
    Looks like Bill Wyman is also getting heat due to #meetoo according to BBC website.

    A film festival has dropped ex-Rolling Stone Bill Wyman from its bill after protests stemming from his relationship with a teenage girl in the 1980s.

    The bassist had been due to do a Q&A session at June's Sheffield Doc/Fest and appear at the European premiere of a documentary about him, The Quiet One.

    The festival pulled the plug on both after receiving an online backlash.

    The rocker courted controversy after he met Mandy Smith in 1984, when she was 13 and he was 47.
    If he truly had a relationship with her when he was 47 and she was 13....then I can understand this, because that's absolutely nuts. Why all of a sudden this comes out now I don't understand at all though. Had it been a secret all those years?

    But when I cuss at MeToo it's because of how Mike is still being treated. People see something, no evidence or anything and so easily he's boycotted and what not. It seems these companies (in this case the venue boss of Paradiso Amsterdam) is driven so far into their MeToo tainted way of thinking that they don't even seem to want to bother investigating it for themselves a little. Nah let's just cancel it all.

    Pathetic way of thinking and I hope we get rid of this horrible new way of thinking, or more like.... lack of any thinking, any common sense.

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    Default Re: Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland" [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Quote Originally Posted by ozemouze View Post
    Actually I think one of the purposes (or at least "benefits" for some) of LN is to derail the metoo movement as well.
    If LN is in the spotlight it can distract attention from real predators for a long time (remember Reed is planning a sequel). For the time being it's working unfortunately.
    If LN is debunked completely it can be used by some to discredit the metoo movement and cast doubt on real victims as well in the future - it's also good news for the real culprits.




    A sad state of affairs.
    To derail and discredit the movement ..I didn't see it that way ...I get that though. ...Its all Very sneaky and underhand

    My SuperMoon and my SuperSun
    Rest In peace dear M.

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