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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    Wasn't there documentation of Joy Robson and Michaels conversations - Michael telling Joy to let Wade be a kid etc.? Did I overlook a link?
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...-story-part-5/

    "This contradicts the narrative that the reason for his breakdowns was his realization of alleged sexual abuse by Jackson and that show business suddenly was associated with sexual abuse for him because of that. Here he is telling a completely different story: the reason of his breakdowns was the pressure to achieve and to be perfect in his job and succeed, and him crumbling under that pressure.

    Moreover, he is trying to shift the blame for his unhealthy work attitudes on Jackson, even though the “indoctrination” that he is complaining about in the above quoted blog posts actually echo his mother.

    Wade Robson: “[H]ow I was educated out of play and learned to be devastatingly serious” or “If I’m not busy and stressed, I’m lazy and unworthy” or “When our children learn to always be busy and stressed, they learn to miss the universal guidance and inspiration that is all around us, all the time” [12] or “all I learned from Michael was all I knew to do was get back to work so I figured that’s what I had to do.” [4; page 200]

    Joy Robson: “[Wade and Chantal] have always been busy and I think boredom breeds trouble. […] My kids worked every weekend, every school vacation, their birthday parties were backstage, their Christmas parties were backstage. No regrets.” [7]

    Meanwhile, as Joy Robson testified, Jackson actually “used to call me and ask — and beg me not to make Wade work all the time, to let him have his childhood”
    SOURCE COURT DOCUMENT [3; page 245].

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    Someone is asking me for a source of that info about wade having that note stating allegations would.make him relevant in the industry again. Does anyone have a link to legal docs that state this?

    "Moreover, as Wade himself said in a note that he wrote and that was presented during his 2016 deposition: “My story of abuse and its effects will make me relatable/relevant.” When asked what he meant by that, he said he contemplated a career as a Vedic meditation teacher and he thought potential clients who went through childhood trauma would find someone with a similar story more relatable. The same notes also contain a sentence saying: “It’s time for me to get mine!” When asked what he meant by that Wade said he did not know. "
    SOURCE COURT DOCUMENT: [4; page 250-252]."

    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...-story-part-5/

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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    anyone have links to legal docs and/or videos discussing Jordan Chandlers description of Michaels penis NOT being accurate? You know this is a common BS thing that keeps coming up!
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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    anyone have links to legal docs and/or videos discussing Jordan Chandlers description of Michaels penis NOT being accurate? You know this is a common BS thing that keeps coming up!
    It does not exist, or its never been accessed by anyone publicly at least.

    Tom Meseareau was on King Jordan Radio and was asked about the 1993 case. Meseareau claimed he had dissected the 1993 allegations and everything about IN DETAIL. As you know he had to defend claims MJ molested Barnes, Culkin and Robson, so he had to dig through it all. He read the book "Michael Jackson was my lover" and everything he could find and also all the legal documents.

    Then a caller asked him about the body search photos and the fact that to this day there are conflicting stories about it.

    Meseareau responded that to get an answer they needed to ask the people in charge of that body search on Jacksons side as well as the procecution.

    I was shocked! Meseareau did say that he was ready to defend that part of the story had the chandler come in to testify, but that does not mean Meseareau had witnessed any documents or conclusions about it!

    Did you notice in the Leaving Neverland thread where I spent 3 pages discussing with people how to find RESOURCES that proof IT WAS NOT A MATCH - besides that the autopsy proves MJ was not circumcised.

    We all know it did not match because Jordys lawyer Feldman barred it from evidence in the civil case and Sneddon did not use it during the Grand Jurys in Los Angeles and Santa Barbara in 1994. He did not use in 2005 either despite filing a motion saying it was match with nothing to back it up.

    But the question remains, WHY ARE THERE POLICE/FORENSIC REPORT DOCUMENTING the findings and concluding they could not use it as evidence?
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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    I just read some of the documents of the 2005 trial to find the motion by the lawyer of chandler to reject the evidence about the description of chandler, but what I have found about It is a motion of thomas mesereu for request that those tests are dismised. The legal reasons are constitutional right and also that the descriptions can not be shown without showing the photos, and the photos from what I have understood can not be shown because a constitutional right is violated.
    the document of the lawyer of chandler I have not found only the one of thomas mesereu asking that this evidence not be used, where is the document that says the people of the lawyer of chandler asking that those tests (the descriptions) in the judgment are not accepted? could you put it here please
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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    TMez could do a much better job of that and talk about the four crucial motions Michael lost which led to the settlement.

    These court motions were:

    Motion For Trial Preference (Civil Trial) by Chandler - GRANTED.

    Motion To Compel Deposition by Michael Jackson - DISMISSED W/O PREJUDICE

    Motion To Compel Mr Jackson's Deposition by Chandler - GRANTED.

    Request To Stay Ruling by Michael Jackson - DENIED.



    Who did MJ want to depose (the motion that was dismissed)?


    :Who did MJ want to depose (the motion that was dismissed)?



    Jordan, Evan and June Chandler as well as David Schwartz.

    These rulings were made on the 23rd November 1993. Soon after, Johnnie Cochrane joined Michael's legal team and he started a Motion For Protective Order.

    The ruling was a mixed bag, but the biggest blow was that the LAPD and SBPD could gain access to any informal and formal discovery material.

    Michael couldn't prepare for the civil trial within 120 days as the police were refusing to provide him with copies or a list of what they took.

    Fast forward to the settlement.

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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    We can see how monstrous propaganda and extreme anti.jackson agenda and the orchestrated conspiracy there is.

    Its not a coincidence, many of us have been talking about it for a looong time, now its open reality.

    Here are some of the most important pages and most prolific twitter accounts for you as sources in arguing and having facts available, spread the messages all over the net, do not be affraid of spamming the discissions with facts:

    Michael Jackson - FBI Investigative Files Released
    1/ https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/ne...jackson_122209
    2/ https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson

    By https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com:
    The Wade Robson Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...n-allegations/

    The 1993 Chandler Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...mmary-version/

    The 2005 Arvizo Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...o-allegations/

    Jason Francia (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...mmary-version/

    By MJJR.net archives – direct veritas project - https://web.archive.org/web/20161028...se/index2.html

    By DAILY MICHAEL : http://dailymichael.com/lawsuits/robson-v-estate

    By VINDICATING MICHAEL: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com +
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    By MJ TRUTH NOW: https://mjjtruthnow.wordpress.com

    By MJJ JUSTICE PROJECT: https://mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com

    ABOUT THE CHANDLERS by - https://turningthetableonthechandler....wordpress.com

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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    Is there an archive of documentation related to the 1993 case? Such as witness interviews, depositions from the Chandlers or just general legal documents from the case, etc. Do these exist in the public domain as pdf files and whatnot?

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    Default Re: MJ Legal cases - Resources thread (Not for discussion) - Chandler/ Arvizo / Robson / Safechuck

    MJ Estate vs HBO Links to docs.

    1. Estate vs HBO ruling, 28th May 2019 (on the matter of arbitration: Is 'arbitrability' to be decided by the arbitrator?) Further submissions requested from both sides.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/4117...QM9dFcPLA80STI


    2. HBO opposition to arbitration, 4th June 2019:

    https://www.scribd.com/document/4124..._6BdECAG0-h1YA
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    Was Michael Jackson Framed: The Untold Story - Did He Do It? [You Must Scroll Down the Page to see this ARTICLE]
    http://www.usnewslink.com/framedjackson.htm

    What The Media Refuses To Tell You About Michael Jackson, Leaving Neverland And The Allegations Of Child Molestation
    http://www.damienshields.com/what-th...s-to-tell-you/

    FACTS TO CONSIDER WHEN WATCHING “LEAVING NEVERLAND”
    https://mimeticmargins.com/2019/03/1...ing-neverland/

    Michael Jackson’s Trial in the Court of Public Opinion
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