Dear Mods, A number of people have been asking for various resources, and I thought it might be useful to start a non-discussion resources page, with links and descriptions for each resource eg fan-made rebuttal videos, links from existing pages which are now 'buried' in discussions etc.
If this is not appropriate, or if there is a better way of doing this, please do delete / amend this thread.
I thought I would start with Robson/ Safechuck as these are the most recent, and then work backwards to earlier cases.
A. Leaving Neverland - Jan 2019 : Fan Rebuttals and Estate Response letters
1. Fan- made rebuttal video - (Robson)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSb...zfZD9jnhosHvJU
2. Razorfist rebuttal video, (Robson) Jan 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ
3. Leaving Neverland Facts (Includes multiple sources and videos)
https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/
4. Estate Attorney's letter to HBO, 7th Feb 2019
https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...el-Jackson.pdf
5. Estate Attorney's letter to Radar Online, 7th Feb 2019
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/b10cd0...tachment_1.pdf
6. Estate Instagram Post, 8th Feb 19, which includes the above 2 letters as attachments:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bto9JiFj...=1te0zvw4nz3e9
7. Estate Attorney's letter to Channel 4 UK, 10th Feb 2019
https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/le...ve-alex-mahon/
8. Estate link to LN review article 160219
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt8cq82D...d=v7kvygyx9xt2
The Estate continues to work behind the scenes to combat the lies and allegations in Leaving Neverland. Some press outlets are starting to get what a farce this documentary is, like this article published this week: https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/201...ving-neverland.
Please share far and wide.
9. Estate link to 'Cornwall Live' (Mike Smallcombe article) 18 Feb 2019
Michael Jackson Leaving Neverland documentary and why we shouldn't be free to destroy the reputations of the dead
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/co...nkMC6jZQ7CCI_0
10. Estate action against HBO on contractual terms (Re. MJ concert, Bucharest):
https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/...44689148829697
11. Estate Petition for Breach of Contract: (21 Feb 2019) With thanks to leaving Neverland Facts.
https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/wp...rbitration.pdf
12. Reclaiming Neverland - Global Wave (Fan resource regarding aims to trend on Twitter from 3rd March onwards):
https://www.facebook.com/notes/recla...0633221710652/
13. Fans streaming 'Money' from 2nd-8th March, eg official YT here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=I3XRCfet0Lc
https://www.***********/streaming-mo...-8-march-2019/
14. Leaving Neverland: Echoes of a pedophilia apologist (Gutierrez background to Robson, Safechuck and prior allegations, fan-made by 'Michael Jackson Allegations').
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb5U...Kn2Uga35jetVew
15. art19.com Interview with D Reed and Jonathan Steinsapir (Atty with MJ Estate. Steinsapir starts at appx. 17.10.)
https://art19.com/shows/today-explai...wzV6qNe4giTEmY
16. UK fan Danny Oliver on 'This morning' UK (ITV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrS4...Q-aWCKJTCo2-KQ
17. Charles Thomson 'Gateway' radio interview. (Basildon, UK - 7th March 19) Excellent summary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=cBf5LGDm7dc
18. TheMichaelJacksonAllegations
Differences Between Leaving Neverland/interviews and the Robson/Safechuck lawsuits (Part 1) 17 Mar 19
https://themichaeljacksonallegations...huck-lawsuits/
19 Truth to Power Funding Neverland (From appx 27 mins)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1Ht2pcr3gjk
20 *** Taj speaking on podcast 'The Movie Crypt Ep. 313 27 May 19' : A long and detailed discussion***
http://moviecrypt.libsyn.com/ep-313-taj-jackson
21. Estate vs HBO arbitration: Final Estate doc. pre-arbitration decision, 17 June 2019:
https://www.scribd.com/document/4136...BO-Arbitration
22. One-page Summary of False Accusers and background to allegations - incl. why they are false:
(link awaited)
23. TSCM on Twitter : Kew Media PR
https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/st...38034954870785
24. Chase the truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Q6IzSSNF8
25. Lies of Leaving Neverland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOfz1YkWeA
27 John Branca interview (Law School) July 2019 - esp. from 30 mins onward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
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B. Robson Complaints- Some basic docs (List incomplete) (Complaint dismissed 21 Dec 17)
(I don't know if there is permission to post these here? Please delete if not.)
1. Robson 2nd Amended complaint, 19 Feb 2014
https://www.scribd.com/document/2353...nded-Complaint
2. Joy Robson Deposition 30 Sept 16
https://www.scribd.com/document/3537...ition-Excerpts
3. Wade Robson Deposition, 12 Dec 16
https://www.scribd.com/document/3361...ition-Excerpts
(includes reference to book, 'MJ Facts' article, mentions 'my understanding of things is constantly evolving', 'I never forgot what happened between Michael and I), Refers to self as master of deception', and 'It's time for me to get mine'. )
4. Wade Robson - Masterclass Legends interview ? approx mid-late 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vWazdCJxTFI
5a. Wades Window 'Father Figure' 5th Jan 2018
https://waderobson.com/wadeswindow/fatherfigure
5b Wades Window - 'Why Me?' 30 June 2018 (later amended)
Included:
How could this happen to me?”
“Why does this always happen to me?”
“Well, with my luck….(insert bad outcome)."
“Why is the Universe/God/World against me?”
Do these types of thoughts sound familiar, either coming from yourself or someone you know?
If I find myself in a low emotional state, if I’m stressed, sad, angry, or hurt, if I am honest with myself, I realize that the common denominator, the main cause for my state, is that I have allowed myself to slip into victim consciousness. I have let myself fall into some level of belief that someone or something “out there” is 100 percent responsible for my life, my success or failure, my peace, my happiness. This is incredibly disempowering and ultimately an illusion.
Let’s be clear, I am not talking about people who are truly victimized physically, sexually, emotionally, socially or economically, adults and especially children. I am talking about those of us who are outside of the aforementioned situations, mentally and emotionally capable adults, who are allowing ourselves to exist partially or completely in a victim state of consciousness.
6. Wade Robson email to Cirque du Soleil 21st May 2011, begging for Choreographer job (Twitter Link)
Explains why he pulled out of a studio film-directing project, which he had originally taken in preference to Cirque. ''Directing a film was a completely new realm that I ended up not being ready for''.
https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/s...18254212792320
7. Nick and Desiree Infinite Dance Cast (IDC11) (11 July 2011).
Interview with Joy Robson about moving from Australia, and the start of Wade's career. (He was teaching dance classes at age 15 - Interviewer says Wade 'hit on' his girlfriend.) Recommendation to young aspiring dancers: 1 Always finish your education. 2. Always have a plan B. Joy says they were still ' struggling to pay rent after 8 years'.
Interview starts appx 10.57 and ends appx 23.20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmhTWusqqc
8a. Email to Wade from Julie Macdonald (?? Wade's agent) dated 22 Feb 2011. 'Please call John Branca, the person in charge of MJ's Estate. I asked for a % deal for you (for the Cirque show). It would be the first time for a choregrapher if they do'.
https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/s...61833115238401
8b And the letter from Wade to Cirque begging for a job
https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/wa...-on-5-21-2011/
9. Robson statement that ' I did not understand or was even aware that an Estate had been opened for administration (for MJ) until 4 March 2013 'when I met with my lawyers Gradstein and Marzano for the first time.'
https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/s...61833115238401
10. YT Video of Robson backstage before Janets' MTV Awards MJ tribute:
"These are Michael's gloves from the 'Bad' video. Michael gave them to me when I was, I don't know, 7 or 8. He's gonna be with us spiritually but I wanted to feel something physical from him. So um I'm probably gonna wrap one of these (??) while we perform on stage... just to feel that much closer to him..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7FOeDcgAJY
11. Pulse dance workshop interview with Chris Judd - date 2011-2012 actual date of recording not clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJNOiZjmtY
12. Robson Appeal - Estate Response, 3rd April 2019
Robson cannot use section 340.1(b)(2) to convert his timebarred action against Jackson’s Estate into a timely action
against Jackson’s wholly-owned, self-controlled corporate entities. Jackson controlled the Corporations’ conduct, not the
other way around. Robson’s attempt to shoehorn his action into section 340.1(b)(2)’s narrow exception to the statute of limitations
is contrary to its plain language and was properly rejected by the trial court.
The judgment should be affirmed.
https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/wp...ents-Brief.pdf
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Mods please delete if these are not permitted.
C. Safechuck Complaint - Basic doc. (List not complete) (Complaint Dismissed appx 28 June 2017)
1. Safechuck Civil Complaint 27 July 15
https://www.scribd.com/doc/273431049...ivil-Complaint
2. 2nd Amended complaint, 19 Sept 16
https://www.scribd.com/document/3246...nded-Complaint
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D. Miscellaneous Prior case documents
1. FBI records - the vault (No evidence found)
https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson
2. The MJJR archive (Veritas Project - Chandler and Arvizo )
https://web.archive.org/web/20161028...se/index2.html
3. The Chandler case - including Chandler's non-appearance in 2004
https://themichaeljacksonallegations...3-allegations/
4. The Chandler case : Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=9J1JQaIrxRU
5. Chandler case timeline (inc. Gutierrez)
https://turningthetableonthechandler...dler-timeline/
6. Chandler Case: Most important Testimonies (Michael Jackson vindication 2)
https://michaeljacksonvindication2.w...he-2005-trial/
and Robson Testimony 2005:
http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com...Testimony.html
7. Online interview with a juror from 2005
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...as_a_juror_on/
8. Mesereau talking about the Neverland Security Guards' allegations re Culkin etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8iO1wRHegY
9. E! News Trial re-enactment. Part of Robson testimony (1st witness for defence, 2005) Thanks to MJJRnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1u7gj50W4
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E. Prior Family / friends statements
1. Ron Newt, about being offered money for adverse story (at 5:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=9elqn_sjCN4
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F. Responses to 'Leaving Neverland and its press coverage by Jacksons and others.
1. Taj Jackson (Sunrise TV interview, 020219)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usp9liRECFg
2. Jermaine, Good Morning Britain, 30 Jan 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDGklt8H9Y
3. Brandi Jackson twitter statements report, 12 Feb 19
‘Leaving Neverland’ Beef: Brandi Jackson Says MJ Accuser Wade Robson Is Her Ex-Boyfriend And A Jackson Family “Opportunist”
https://bossip.com/1700799/leaving-n...-opportunist/#
Jackson Accuser Wade Robeson Exposed As LIAR By Ex-Girlfriend!! (Includes Twitter screen caps) - MTO news.
https://mtonews.com/jackson-accuser-...-ex-girlfriend
4. Interview with Geraldine Hughes, Brian Oxman, Cherilyn Lee - Breaking News!! What Really Happened in "Leaving Neverland" and with Michael Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=FJmUdkfHOVM
5. From Producer Jeff Wald to CEO HBO. 14th Feb 2019
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e...KFaMOBW2LP/pub
6. The Jacksons interviewed on Extra TV, 28th Feb 2019 (Michael Jackson's brothers speak out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIpSDyERdfU
7. Nicole's View Livestream: Interview With Private Investigator Scott Ross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDa27x6mTWs&t=7045s
8. Taj Jackson on 'Good Morning Britain' ITV Tues 5 Mar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZcDodItb9s
9. Taj Jackson on ITV news 5th March 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsshtxpOFE
10. John Ziegler (Journalist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=BoHWAOwvZoQ
11. John Ziegler interviews with Brandi Jackson and Taj Jackson 9th March 2019
a) Brandi Jackson
https://soundcloud.com/freespeechbro...JZ9KWbTKjxukcQ
b) Taj Jackson
https://soundcloud.com/freespeechbro...th-taj-jackson
12. LEAVING NEVERLAND accuser Wade Robson "lied about more than the Michael Jackson abuse" and here is the proof.By STEFAN KYRIAZIS (inc. Mike Smallcombe quotes)
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainm...Safechuck-film
13. 'Correct me if I'm wrong' - by 'Stereo Williams' 13 March 19
https://medium.com/@stereowilliams/c...g-6336108a25db
14. I thought he was guilty (YT) 130319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Bx...GnJGW8zZoZlA8g
15. “Leaving Neverland” Weaves A Provocative Narrative But Is It Just One Big Lie?
Posted On 14 Mar 2019By : Dan Stephens
https://www.top10films.co.uk/52219-l...i9-S8qjTuBnmkw
16. John Ziegler soundcloud 2019 - 03 - 17 - 1 Frauds And Fakes
(Mentions Brandi Jackson, TMZ and Robson and Safechuck case contradictions and lies)
https://soundcloud.com/freespeechbro...auds-and-fakes
17. Nicole's View - interview with Geraldine Hughes, YT 170319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=pNnSFun0GXk
18 John Ziegler (as John Zigler) interview with Mat Giles, Radio Stafford UK, 17 March 19
https://soundcloud.com/matgilesmusic...ion-mj-mixdown
19. Wade Robson's Michael Jackson sex abuse claims 'disproved by his own mum' (Mike Smallcombe)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...x-14201396.amp
20. Razorfist interview with Brandi and Taj Jackson (Debunking Neverland)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsuxaa3qIzE
21. Liam McEwan doc. Neverland Firsthand (**Recommended. Comprehensive and easy to watch.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4tr...MXjs45yhfy6tNo
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G. Weinstein's complicity Machine
New York Times article, 5th December 2017
(Extracts)
Keeping the Media Close
Shortly after the news investigations of Mr. Weinstein’s alleged abuse were published, A. J. Benza, a former New York Daily News gossip columnist, received a two-word text from the producer: “Help me.”
Mr. Benza had been integral to the network of friendly journalists — gossip columnists, magazine writers, editors and authors — whom the producer relied on to promote his entertainment empire and sometimes punish rivals or deflect threats.
Over dinner in West Hollywood in late 2003 or early the next year, the men had discussed a plan to help Mr. Weinstein avoid embarrassment. While married to his first wife, he had become involved with someone else, Mr. Benza discovered. A clerk at a Los Angeles art studio where he commissioned a gift for Mr. Weinstein — a painting of a reimagined “Hollywood” sign reading “Harveywood” — volunteered to Mr. Benza that a friend, Georgina Chapman, was seeing the producer. Mr. Weinstein, who would later marry Ms. Chapman, was separated and wanted to keep the relationship confidential until he was divorced, according to his spokeswoman, Sallie Hofmeister.
Mr. Benza, then between jobs, had a suggestion. “I could supply your P.R. girls with a lot of gossip — a lot of stories — and if people come at them with the ‘Harvey’s having an affair story,’ they can barter,” Mr. Benza recalled telling Mr. Weinstein. “He said, ‘A. J., it’s got to be good stories,’ and I said, ‘Don’t you worry about it.’”
Collecting a monthly retainer, Mr. Benza said, he reported items on Roger Clemens, Michael Jackson and others and sent them to Mr. Weinstein’s communications team, though he didn’t know whether they were used to trade away stories about the producer. Mr. Weinstein’s spokeswoman said the payments to Mr. Benza were for public relations work during Miramax’s dispute with Disney.
After 10 months, Mr. Weinstein said, “I think the coast is clear; I think we beat this thing,” according to Mr. Benza, who recently had a brief stint as a writer for American Media and also runs his own gossip podcast, “Fame Is a Bitch.”
Mr. Benza and Mr. Weinstein were exploiting a longstanding system of favor-trading between the press and the movie business. Gossip writers need a stream of insider scoops, industry beat reporters need exclusives on the next big deal and glossy magazines need celebrities who can drive newsstand sales. Mr. Weinstein, who wanted glowing coverage, could provide that and more.
The producer often held out business opportunities to those who covered him. He had book and movie deals with writers and editors at Fox News, The New York Post, Premiere magazine, Vanity Fair, Variety and elsewhere. In Mr. Benza’s case, a book contract came immediately after he left The Daily News. In interviews, several journalists who had business ties to him said the arrangements did not cause them to pull punches.
He had particularly strong ties to the tabloid giant American Media — owner of The Enquirer, Globe, OK!, Radar Online and others — with which he teamed up to pursue several media and production deals.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...omplicity.html
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Someone is asking me for a source of that info about wade having that note stating allegations would.make him relevant in the industry again. Does anyone have a link to legal docs that state this?
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It's on page 13 of the Robson deposition extracts, 2016. Unfortunately I can't post photos here. (Lack of current technical capability!)
You can use 'Google images' with the search terms 'Robson relevant relatable' and you will find pics there.
PS This is a non-discussion thread, so better to ask in the 'Leaving Neverland Thread, or by PM).
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I have aired a long video collection last week called "Michael Jackson - "Leaving Neverland": The truth to watch" with great video matirial..
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...m7X9-Zoq3LcS4n
Please have a look in this collection.
You can share the whole collection or parts from it when you want to help people in these days to understand who Michael was and that he is innocent.
I will always update the collection with new matirial.
(Things about "Leaving Neverland" Wade & James will always appear in the beginning part of the Playlist.)
You can read details about the collection, give feetback and correct it (when you find for examples mistakes in videos) in a thread you will find in this forum.
Since the 'Mirror' UK is now publishing about the 'Jane Doe' case after speaking to Finaldi, I'll add Jane Doe links here, and also Michael Jacobshagen info below (not related to any court cases, but to TV programmes esp. in Australia.):
1. Jane Doe complaint: (Oct 2016)
https://www.scribd.com/document/3291...-Doe-Complaint
2. 18th May 2017 (Ref. . 129 of R/S/JD cases)
In a surprise development, just 2 weeks before the demurrer hearing Jane Doe dismissed her sexual abuse case against Michael Jackson. Jane Doe’s lawyers filed the request for dismissal and the case was dismissed without prejudice – meaning technically it can get refiled.
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3. Michael Jacobshagen TV doc. ' Sunday Night on 7' Channel 7 Australia, Sunday 24th Feb 2019 (Trailer, 21 Feb 19)
https://twitter.com/SundayNightOn7/s...33309156851712 and on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBC-EulMNCI
Last edited by myosotis; 21-02-2019 at 10:12 AM.
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What I think is a good idea to share in these days is Michaels Chistmas speaches from 1992 and 2002 where he reveals official his plans what he want do to children in the following year:
1992:
When you follow the timeline of 1993 intensly you find sooo much strong evidence that supports the impression that this were MJs absoluty true and serious plans and not to molest any child.
When he whould have done this the plans he spoke about whould have compleatly failed and he whould have find NO contributer for the non profit organisation "Heal the World" anymore (who was only a few months old at this time) to help children in need.
The same appleys for his Christmas speach from 2002. His destinations he talked about whould have never been reached. He absolutly doesn't sounds like someome who had planed to molest only two months later the cancer patient Gavin Aviso:
This can be something to be part of the new series of the Michael Jackson Innocent project. I will adress the idea to them.
Last edited by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona; 17-02-2019 at 02:37 PM.
Wasn't there documentation of Joy Robson and Michaels conversations - Michael telling Joy to let Wade be a kid etc.? Did I overlook a link?
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