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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    Well, like I said before, I never noticed the lip syncing-it was LIVE to me.

    I have rarely looked so forward to a special and that night I took my old position cross legged in front of the TV (I'm Michael's age, so that's how we watched TV as kids) and my mother was in the rocker next to me. I was so happy through the whole special-and then that moment that Michael turned his head and glared at the camera-lost my breath, my stomach went to my head, grabbed Mama in a death grip-I think I was in a silent scream the entire time-I'm surprised I didn't pass out.

    (this was actually my first time to even hear Billie Jean-hadn't heard it on the radio and we didn't have MTV)

    Never saw anything that crazy exciting in my life-only surpassed by the 88 Grammys, IMO.
    I love hearing memories like this! really cheered me up thanks for sharing. *this* is the everlasting magic!

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    There was a lot of lipsynching on the show. Michael's was more obvious because it was the literal album version

    The brothers lipsynched, High Inergy, The Miracles and a few others had their background vocals prerecorded for the show

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Yes he lipped it. It's common knowledge and blatantly obvious.

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post
    Also the Jacksons part was playback. At least the music.
    the music and background vocals, but Michael was singing live during the Jacksons' part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    You can definitely tell that Billie Jean on motown was lip synched. MJ always sounded like he had an accent when he sung billie jean live. Billie Jean is one of the few songs where he was never quite able to sing it live the way he sung it on the record.
    This one is pretty close though https://youtu.be/5u3BXuRNdBo

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulkamaniac View Post
    the music and background vocals, but Michael was singing live during the Jacksons' part.



    This one is pretty close though https://youtu.be/5u3BXuRNdBo
    Agreed. If MJ didnt have to dance and sing at the same time he would of sounded really close to the original record. The rehearsals prove that IMO. Remember the time sounds 99% like the original.

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    Well, like I said before, I never noticed the lip syncing-it was LIVE to me.

    I have rarely looked so forward to a special and that night I took my old position cross legged in front of the TV (I'm Michael's age, so that's how we watched TV as kids) and my mother was in the rocker next to me. I was so happy through the whole special-and then that moment that Michael turned his head and glared at the camera-lost my breath, my stomach went to my head, grabbed Mama in a death grip-I think I was in a silent scream the entire time-I'm surprised I didn't pass out.

    (this was actually my first time to even hear Billie Jean-hadn't heard it on the radio and we didn't have MTV)

    Never saw anything that crazy exciting in my life-only surpassed by the 88 Grammys, IMO.
    I loved reading your memories. The Motown 25 and Grammys 1988 performances were magical, and no one knew or cared if they were lip synced or not. I remember watching Motown 25 with my Mama, sister and Grandmama. We were all amazed. Michael’s Grammy performance in 1988 is still my favorite. At school the next day everyone was talking about how amazing Michael was, and that he stole the show. Even the boys who thought that he wasn’t cool anymore were in awe. No one was talking about the winners, everyone was talking about Michael.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    I read an interesting theory about why he choose to lip synch Billie Jean, The Motown band were not able to play the groove the way MJ wanted it to sound so he played the record instead.
    Where did you read that?

    This theory looks like just another fan myth.

    In fact, MJ planned to lip synch ‘Billie Jean’ (for the Motown 25 event) because it was a new song & he wanted the audience/TV viewers to listen to its original, album version.

    In addition to that, he wanted also to feel safe by personally hearing in his ears the version that he exactly knew so as to concentrate easier on his dance moves (such as, his first ever public moonwalk).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Where did you read that?

    This theory looks like just another fan myth.

    In fact, MJ planned to lip synch ‘Billie Jean’ (for the Motown 25 event) because it was a new song & he wanted the audience/TV viewers to listen to its original, album version.

    In addition to that, he wanted also to feel safe by personally hearing in his ears the version that he exactly knew so as to concentrate easier on his dance moves (such as, his first ever public moonwalk).
    Where did you read all of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    I read an interesting theory about why he choose to lip synch Billie Jean, The Motown band were not able to play the groove the way MJ wanted it to sound so he played the record instead.
    Sounds about right. Lipsynching and pre-recording was common place, for television shows in the sixties, seventies and eighties. No one watching ever thought to make a big deal about it, seriously.....it was just how things were done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Where did you read all of that?
    Hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulkamaniac View Post
    the music and background vocals, but Michael was singing live during the Jacksons' part.



    This one is pretty close though https://youtu.be/5u3BXuRNdBo
    I have to agree that this rehearsal is pretty close.

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Michael might have lip synced Billie Jean because he wanted people to focus on his dancing and not on his singing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Where did you read all of that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    Hahaha!
    MJ did not mention in his ‘Moonwalk' book that he chose to lip-sync because the Motown band could not play the groove the way he wanted.

    He did not even imply such a thing in his book.

    What I wrote can be easily deduced by reading between the lines (of the relevant parts of that book).

    Like, his only concern (about that song for the event) was the dance moves that he should come up with so as to match with the song’s album version (which he played loud in his kitchen).

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    MJ did not mention in his ‘Moonwalk' book that he chose to lip-sync because the Motown band could not play the groove the way he wanted.

    He did not even imply such a thing in his book.

    What I wrote can be easily deduced by reading between the lines (of the relevant parts of that book).

    Like, his only concern (about that song for the event) was the dance moves that he should come up with so as to match with the song’s album version (which he played loud in his kitchen).
    You said that what I wrote looks like another fan myth then proceeded to give your own fan theory. You may very well be right but your guess is as best as anyone's guess really.

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    Default Re: Billie Jean 25th Motown lip sync?

    To me, this is the most iconic performance in music/television history. Period. (The second-most iconic would be his Grammy 88 performance; but I'm prejudiced.) And yes, he lip-synced it.
    That was very obvious to me when I first saw the performance on vhs sometime in the late 80s. Don't forget: This was the very first(!) time a song from Thriller was performed live, and before a multiple-million tv audience at that. The pressure/anticipation etc. must have been absolutely intense.




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