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    "If someone shows you who they really are, believe them." -Dr. Maya Angelou

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoP View Post
    I looked through the TV Guide website for my hometown’s Eastlink Cable Systems and I looked through HBO Canada and it’s indeed airing “Leaving Neverland” simultaneously and I’m very steamed about it. But luckily I can still able to contact CBSC and make a complaint about the film being aired.
    Damn too bad. I was hoping it wouldn't be aired in Canada. Luckily most people don't have HBO as its pretty expensive. And most people under 30 don't even have cable!

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    Great post, AlwaysThere.

    I feel much the same.

    I'm basically see-sawing between putting distance between myself and this world as much as possible (which I find encouraging if perhaps a little ignorant) and making plans in my head to finally wrap things up and call it a day.

    I too find it beyond tedious that month after month I am compelled to defend some other story concerning Michael. Whether it's Quincy saying he stole songs or whatever else has come up. These are big claims with serious ramifications. And I look at how other artists are treated and on the whole it appears as though they are immune to it.

    I have to say I find this much worse than 2003-2005. Michael was given a 'fair' opportunity to be heard in a world where what the media reported didn't matter. When the court doors closed and the judge entered, the only thing that mattered was the evidence reported by both sides. This is PURELY about the media and the public now. In addition to this, we now have four accusers and we have people in the media saying things like "they can't ALL be lying" which I guaranteed Joe Public is thinking too. Not only that but these were different times, where people didn't speak out so much about these sort of things in the public/celebrity arena. The metoo movements and timesup have changed things.

    Even if two years from now Michael's reputation, resoundingly beaten and trodden, continues to emit some kind of a pulse, I think the purity and the unbridled joy of listening to his music will be taken from me by the sheer darkness of the environment of where it will be placed by the world at large. I think even if my forecasts are too drastic, this will be a hard thing to shake for me.

    I take a good few days away before coming back to see if the light is coming back out, and all I find is it's gotten worse - BBC docu and Oprah.

    The only thing that can stop this freefall now is damning evidence that shows these people lied.

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    Default Re: The "Leaving Neverland" Rant & Support Thread

    Y’all need to chill freaking out about it isn’t going to work.

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    We don’t know how the general public will react to the documentary.

    Many still don’t know about the documentary.

    I haven’t really heard anyone talking about it on social media and in real life.

    Americans have a lot going on. R Kelly, Jussie Smollets, Cohen testifying etc.

    Most people seem not to have cable anymore. I still do lol. Most have Netflix, Hulu etc. I don’t know if people still watch HBO anymore except for Game of Thrones and that’s on its last season. In general, HBO is on its way out.

    Documentaries like this on MJ have being going on for almost 26 years.

    2003-2005 was way way worse.

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    I can't believe it is happening again. I am out of the speech. I can't believe this again comes from somebody he helped so much, from somebody who let them inside his life. Where this is going to end?

    Just call my name and I'll be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travis3000 View Post
    Damn too bad. I was hoping it wouldn't be aired in Canada. Luckily most people don't have HBO as its pretty expensive. And most people under 30 don't even have cable!
    I was hoping it would be on at all in Canada, but like I said I’m prepared to contact CBSC and make a complaint about it.
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    A mate sent me a text earlier saying a guy in work was playing MJ music all day,he asked him about it and he said he wasn't a big fan but was doing it in protest of the bullshit.

    Nice to hear there are some sensible people out there who can think for themselves.

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    This whole thing has me so frazzled. It was bad enough when all this started in 2013. Didn't think it could get any worse but it did.

    I'm starting to regret not doing more last year to celebrate Michael. That would have been the prime time to do it since it was after the case got thrown out and everything seemed to be in in the clear. I wish I had gone to the Diamond Celebration in Vegas, even if it would've cost me a good chunk of money, or watched more things of his. I've never been one to stay positive (never really learned how) so this is all so hard for me right now.
    "Let's not be alone again. Will you be my partner? I hear a dance starting up. Come."

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    35 years as a fan , I can’t believe it’s come to this. In 93 and 2005, it felt bad but I always felt hope that he’d come out of it Ok, tarnished reputation but proven innocent. This however is a different beast. I really don’t see any light at the end of this tunnel for a number of reasons. The estate have been woeful. Not just now but also for the last 10 years. They should have commissioned a docu series to put across MJ’s story, with everyone that knew and worked with him having an input to tell what he was really like. Hell, we all know Robson would have been on the phone to the estate begging to be included. This would have made the likely hood of this crap less possible but also if it di£d happen as it has, very much less credible. The family, my heart goes out to them, are in a no win situation.Besides Taj and Brandi, I dont think anyone else is prepared or up to speed enough for tough questions. The silence from everyone else is disappointing and worrying. Surprised that Prince isn’t to the fore. I know if I was in his position, I’d be moving mountains. The Cascios, where are they?? All the staff at neverland, recording engineers, producers, etc. , where are they?? Debbie Rowe?? All the people that went through, visited , stayed at neverland??
    I don’t believe there is a come back from this. Personally, I’m emotionally all over the place. Doubts have crept in. Confusion. This is not something that can be proven or disproven and we are left with he said , she said scenarios.
    I am preparing myself for the possibility that this could be the end. Yesterday I watched the Elvis tribute and as soon as it started I felt sad because I felt we are never going to see anything like this for MJ ever again. No network will touch a tribute show after this. The accusers and Reed are saying that it’s not about taking MJ down, but how can they not see that it’s exactly what’s going to happen. I hope the estate realise that they’ll have to live with the fact that they oversaw MJ legacy being destroyed.
    I have a 9 year old son who is just starting to love the jacksons. I hear him humming and singing his favourite songs “can you feel it” ,”man in the mirror” and “stranger in Moscow”. I heard him tell his friends proudly that he knows lots of MJ songs now. I just feel my heart breaking and turn away so my son doesn’t see the tears welling up in my eyes. I don’t want him to be in a position where he is going to be picked on or disparaged for being a fan, which I fear, is inevitable. So how do I explain all this to him? He constantly asks me to put on the music but at the moment I just can’t listen to it. I find myself asking the question if whether he’d be better off not being an MJ fan. Cause bloody hell , it’s hard now.
    I know I’m going to be questioned by family and friends with difficult questions. I’ve become astutely aware that people are going to be uncomfortable with the paraphernalia of MJ’s that I have on display in my house, and hence, I’ll be uncomfortable.
    I fear the worst and wonder if I’m have to going to say goodbye to someone who has being nothing but positive and joy to my life, but has become a beacon of negativity to society. There aren’t to many MJ fans where I am.
    After he died, I’d thought things had turned more positive and it was wonderful to see him being celebrated. I never imagined it would turn to this.
    Sorry if this seems so pessimistic, but it how I truly feel. I’ve seen nothing historically from the estate or family that would suggest a reverse of the situation. They’ve missed the boat and it’s sailed into a dark world.
    Would love to know others views.

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    I'm kinda sick of the estate making fans defend him in the media. It's all well and good doing things behind the scenes but in the mean time mj has legitimately no defence in the media. Wade and James own it and are probably convincing everyone with their bullshit.

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    djlf I think many of us feel the same to be honest.
    I'm clinging to hope people will see through this but in reality that seems a distant hope more than anything.

    I have an eight year old daughter who loves his music and dancing to MJ and I echo your thoughts there,its flippin' hard being a Michael Jackson fan.

    All we can hope for is this backfires but public perception and the media who are contributing with their lies will push this into being an important documentary and cement many peoples thoughts about MJ.

    The Estate could do nothing and will still make millions as us loyal fans are plentiful and can see thorough the nonsense.

    Its future generations and Michael's legacy I fear for.

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    The estate should be gathering everyone that knows him , together, to shout no from the rooftops. I’d love to see hours of just one on one interviews with people that were there and knew him just telling their truth to the camera. Straight to the viewers eyes and ears with so many people that it would be undeniable. Don’t think it’ll happen though

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    Quote Originally Posted by djlf View Post
    The estate should be gathering everyone that knows him , together, to shout no from the rooftops. I’d love to see hours of just one on one interviews with people that were there and knew him just telling their truth to the camera. Straight to the viewers eyes and ears with so many people that it would be undeniable. Don’t think it’ll happen though
    Yeah I agree.
    Taj is trying to fund a project but that is falling way short of getting the cash probably required.

    Not many fans have contributed to that so while we can give off about the Estate(rightly so) there are many fans who could help some also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djlf View Post
    35 years as a fan , I can’t believe it’s come to this. In 93 and 2005, it felt bad but I always felt hope that he’d come out of it Ok, tarnished reputation but proven innocent. This however is a different beast. I really don’t see any light at the end of this tunnel for a number of reasons. The estate have been woeful. Not just now but also for the last 10 years. They should have commissioned a docu series to put across MJ’s story, with everyone that knew and worked with him having an input to tell what he was really like. Hell, we all know Robson would have been on the phone to the estate begging to be included. This would have made the likely hood of this crap less possible but also if it di£d happen as it has, very much less credible. The family, my heart goes out to them, are in a no win situation.Besides Taj and Brandi, I dont think anyone else is prepared or up to speed enough for tough questions. The silence from everyone else is disappointing and worrying. Surprised that Prince isn’t to the fore. I know if I was in his position, I’d be moving mountains. The Cascios, where are they?? All the staff at neverland, recording engineers, producers, etc. , where are they?? Debbie Rowe?? All the people that went through, visited , stayed at neverland??
    I don’t believe there is a come back from this. Personally, I’m emotionally all over the place. Doubts have crept in. Confusion. This is not something that can be proven or disproven and we are left with he said , she said scenarios.
    I am preparing myself for the possibility that this could be the end. Yesterday I watched the Elvis tribute and as soon as it started I felt sad because I felt we are never going to see anything like this for MJ ever again. No network will touch a tribute show after this. The accusers and Reed are saying that it’s not about taking MJ down, but how can they not see that it’s exactly what’s going to happen. I hope the estate realise that they’ll have to live with the fact that they oversaw MJ legacy being destroyed.
    I have a 9 year old son who is just starting to love the jacksons. I hear him humming and singing his favourite songs “can you feel it” ,”man in the mirror” and “stranger in Moscow”. I heard him tell his friends proudly that he knows lots of MJ songs now. I just feel my heart breaking and turn away so my son doesn’t see the tears welling up in my eyes. I don’t want him to be in a position where he is going to be picked on or disparaged for being a fan, which I fear, is inevitable. So how do I explain all this to him? He constantly asks me to put on the music but at the moment I just can’t listen to it. I find myself asking the question if whether he’d be better off not being an MJ fan. Cause bloody hell , it’s hard now.
    I know I’m going to be questioned by family and friends with difficult questions. I’ve become astutely aware that people are going to be uncomfortable with the paraphernalia of MJ’s that I have on display in my house, and hence, I’ll be uncomfortable.
    I fear the worst and wonder if I’m have to going to say goodbye to someone who has being nothing but positive and joy to my life, but has become a beacon of negativity to society. There aren’t to many MJ fans where I am.
    After he died, I’d thought things had turned more positive and it was wonderful to see him being celebrated. I never imagined it would turn to this.
    Sorry if this seems so pessimistic, but it how I truly feel. I’ve seen nothing historically from the estate or family that would suggest a reverse of the situation. They’ve missed the boat and it’s sailed into a dark world.
    Would love to know others views.
    Sorry but all I can think of is you are not alone. Thanks for sharing.

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