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    Default Wade and James fact sheet! Put input

    Hi guys,

    I posted this but want to polish it, and make it presentable for us all to start spreading it.. If you have quick links to support the facts please share them, we can edit this info up in a easy to read way and make it an official info statement where people can read the bullets with links to source the info.. Lets do this as a team! There is no real organized way to get the word out so let's start..

    Mods, feel free to put this wherever you feel like it belongs.. I'd like us to make this than share it with people, give it to Taj..

    We could even make a website that organizes all t his with easy links to the sources.. If anyone is good at web design! Has to be easy for people to go through, people are lazy now days.

    * If there is any worthwhile info you think should be added - share it
    * If there are ways you feel could be worded differently, feel free (These are quick notes)
    * if you have quick links for specific bullets, copy and past what is below and add the link under the bullet.

    They are silencing us on so many levels.. NO MORE!

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    * That edited/sliced 'Happy Birthday' message was recorded within days that Wade and Michael first ever spent any time together (aside from the time they met in Australia) and was filmed 7 months before his Bday

    * James claimed to have owned the Thriller Jacket, it was actually given to Dennis Thompson (his clothing designers) and they had it until 2011 when it was auctioned

    * James claims Harrison Ford gave him the whip from the Indiana Jones movie but it was actually given to the Institute of Archeology in 1990 (only 1 was used in the trilogy)

    * James claims Michael called him asking him to testify in 2005 but he was considered a 'non entity' in the case months before the trial began. Neither one of them had a say as to if he could testify.

    * James claims Michael and him 'honeymooned' in Euro Disney in 1988.. It did not open until 1992. <-- still not confirmed

    * James claims to have been molested in NY after attending the 1989 Grammys.. Michael Jackson never attended the Grammys and they took place in Los Angeles that year.

    * James mother states she danced when Michael Jackson died... because?? According to James, he was not aware he was abused until he saw Wade Robson on TV in 2013

    * Both mothers were laughing and lovingly talking about the time period they spent with Michael.. This is the time they would have been 'neglecting' their children, it is unnatural for a mother to lovingly express of the time she neglected her child by handing over their sons to an 'abuser'.

    * They talk about this elaborate grooming process Michael did but say he molested him the first day they were alone.. That's only hours from day to evening to make Wade comfortable enough to feel ok about something like that? Mind you, they were not US citizens so after the event, they'd be going home to Australia.. That's VERY risky!

    IN COURT & beyond....

    * When Wade was forced to release his emails, he breached the order claiming it did not exist, than refused to submit, than tried using 'attorney client privileges' to prevent the emails to enter the case.. It eventually entered the case after the internet provider submitted the deleted emails.

    * Wade Robsons emails show he sent himself a link from an anti MJ website that paints Jackson as a pedophile to build his case (why would he need to do that if it's a personal event?)

    * Emails between Wade and his mother, Wade sends her an article making claims about Michael, she responds "wow, that never happened" and he still used the story in court.

    * Emails between him and his mother show them going over stories and having 'many versions'

    * Wade was caught lying under oath so bad that the judge stated "Their is no rational juror that could believe his testimony"

    * In wades case he states he came to the realization that he was abused in May 2012.. He was shopping for a 'tell all' book describing abuse, wrote 2 drafts prior to that.

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    Wade Robson wrote 2 drafts of a 'tell all' book, the court ordered Wade to produce both drafts and the story of his abuse changed significantly from one draft to the next


    * James claims that he should address his abuse after seeing an interview with Wade on TV, however it was Wades attorneys that reached out to James before James made any move about the abuse.

    * In court James 'jewelry' story never included a 'wedding ring' story, he stated he had a neckless he was given with a medallion - and that is where the story ends.. The wedding ring would be the most important piece of jewelry to the story... James original interview with Dan Reed in Feb 2017 did not include the ring story, they later got together in July 2017 to film and include the 'ring' story..

    * The court ordered Wade to present his personal journals to the court and it stated allegations would make him "relatable and relevant" and "it's time for me to get mine". When questioned about the quotes he stated he does not know what he meant by his own words.
    * Wade robson claims two contradictory things.. 1. that he did not see anything wrong with the abuse at the time because he felt that he was in a 'fulfilling sexual relationship' at 7 years old and that's why he did not speak out... 2. that Michael would drill & threaten him about if he spoke out and he did not speak out due to fear.

    * James legal briefing states Michael spent thanksgiving with the Safechucks in 1987, Michael was in Australia on the Bad tour and was actually the day Michael Jackson met Wade Robson after the Target event.

    * Wade Robson was trying to have his wedding at Neverland and Michael Jacksons Nanny had to tell both Wade and Joy "NO" because the 2005 trial was going on at the time

    * Wade claimed in court that he was unaware of the administration of the Michael Jackson Estate prior to March 6th 2013 which is another lie considering he was in contact with them about the Cirque De Soleil show and claims to have worked under MJ Ventures in the past. (which is why the estate would be liable in the first place)

    * Wade claims that he was at Neverland and saw Michaels children and did not want Michaels kids to live without their dad and that's how he knew he 'had' to testify on Michaels behalf.. The time he visited Neverland was AFTER he testified

    * They both have been working together since 2014 against the Jackson estate, it was Wades legal team that reached out to James (before James came forward). They worked with this legal team until both cases were thrown out. together switched to a different law firm where their complaints were amended. With those amendments, the accusations changed.

    * James original case against the estate never stated that he had any working relationship with the estate, thus had no 'Duty Of Care'.. In the new claim, it included allegations against MJJ Ventures in respect to his alleged abuse in the 80's.. MJJ Ventures was not established until 1991 and never had any working relationship with Michael Jackson until 1994, 2 years after the alleged abuse ended.

    * When chronologically looking at the claims against Jackson, as they had a hard time battling the estates 'ownership' in the alleged abuse - the stories became increasingly more elaborate including Michael Jacksons employees to incriminate those who are hired under MJJ companies.. Neither Wade or James can actually name any employee that allegedly were willing participants in covering up any abuse (including those they supposedly had personal interaction with)

    * James 3rd amended complaint added a story including companies under MJJ companies that had 'youth programs' where Michael would be a mentor, these companies were called the 'most sophisticated child abuse procurement & Facilitation organization'. '.... a 'youth program' never existed..

    * James case came to a dead end, trying to make the estate liable. James and his lawyers desperately tried to make the argument since Michael Jackson was the sole share holder and owner of MJJ companies. That Michael Jackson had the obligation to 'supervise himself', knowing he (himself) had 'criminal tendencies' and should not allow himself work in his own company. Fire himself and warn others about his tendencies.. This is all to make the estate liable for alleged abuse.
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    Default Re: Wade and James fact sheet! Put input

    Hm I already started something like this:
    https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...-(No-comments)
    I don't know if we need 2 threds.

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    I think your page is fairly different, I am trying to build a fact sheet that can be spread with quick links.. something that can be copied/pasted and spread around.. .Even printed If needed!

    a doc (maybe eventually a site) that makes it very easy to see the facts outside of this forum..
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    I just posted that fact sheet I made in the reply to the Mirror article at the bottom... trying to get the word out there!

    I took out the bullet with James claiming 1988 Euro Disney though... Still waiting on confirmation from someone!!
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    Good work!

    As long as it's for sharing online, I think there should be links included to documents (emails etc) that are available online.
    Backing things up this way, makes it a stronger point.
    (You can shorten very long URLs with services like http://tinyurl.com/ )

    And have someone proof read it. I'm not native english but found quite a few minor mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    Good work!

    As long as it's for sharing online, I think there should be links included to documents (emails etc) that are available online.
    Backing things up this way, makes it a stronger point.
    (You can shorten very long URLs with services like http://tinyurl.com/ )

    And have someone proof read it. I'm not native english but found quite a few minor mistakes.

    Thanks, I'll keep editing the list with info, I just added a bullet about the jewelry story, how in court he never mentioned the wedding ring and was also a portion of the doc that was filmed 5 months after the other parts of the doc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    I just posted that fact sheet I made in the reply to the Mirror article at the bottom... trying to get the word out there!

    I took out the bullet with James claiming 1988 Euro Disney though... Still waiting on confirmation from someone!!
    I have not watched the film and don't plan to, but I have the impression from comments when it first aired, that James does claim this in the first showing on HBO. Because it got called out immediately on Twitter, etc. that footage has been edited out. It most likely wasn't in the UK version.

    I watched Taj on an interview yesterday on a site called "Nicole's View" and he also confirmed that footage. He HAS seen the film.
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    I asked on Twitter about the whole Euro Disney/World thing and someone replied that he said EuroDisney.....but I still can't be sure that 100% correct.

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    bump.. I added 5 bullets at the bottom
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