The Estate vs HBO

[PoP]

I hope the Estate wins this. I think they have a good chance, to be honest. It will be a moral victory.

I concur, there’s no way HBO’s gonna win, there’s no expiration date to the “non-disparagement” contract at all, even when Michael died.

[ScreenOrigami]

I concur, there’s no way HBO’s gonna win, there’s no expiration date to the “non-disparagement” contract at all, even when Michael died.

In my layperson’s opinion, to win this case HBO would actually have to pinpoint the exact moment they believe the contract was fulfilled. It’s obviously absurd to claim it has been completely fulfilled right after they aired the concert, because then the non-disparagement clause would have been entirely meaningless. So, when exactly did the clause expire, and why? That’s the question they will have to answer, and I don’t think there’s a reasonable answer to that.

[NatureCriminal7896]

Win what? where we stand now?

[ScreenOrigami]

Win what? where we stand now?

There’s going to be another hearing in November, and then the judge will have to decide whether or not the 1992 arbitration agreement covers the LN broadcast dispute. We hope the judge decides that the 1992 agreement covers the current situation, of course.

It’s still a long time before the whole case is won, but this is the next step that’s going happen.

[terrell]

In my layperson’s opinion, to win this case HBO would actually have to pinpoint the exact moment they believe the contract was fulfilled. It’s obviously absurd to claim it has been completely fulfilled right after they aired the concert, because then the non-disparagement clause would have been entirely meaningless. So, when exactly did the clause expire, and why? That’s the question they will have to answer, and I don’t think there’s a reasonable answer to that.

I would make HBO pay for the fact they took the word of two perjury men who lies in LN are being revealed over and over and their lies they told even in LN can be proven yet HBO ignored all this evidence before they fact check this so called Documentary. They deserve to lose and need to pay the Estste since they promoted this lying LN all over the world as fact which it was not

[myosotis]

From fans on Twitter:
(It sounds as if this is the panel date, but it's not yet clear whether atty's for both sides will need to speak in person or by video or if the whole thing will be done from the submissions made by both sides. All the arguments are in the paper submissions.)

After the panel, we may not hear the decision for weeks to months.

Don't forget that the decision will be 'whether the case can proceed to arbitration or not'. If it can, there will be a whole further arbitration step/ process before the actual decision on the case.

Re: #MJEstatevHBO
Oral arguments will be heard on Thursday, November 19, at 1 pm.
The judge has not decided whether arguments should be heard, but if so, this would be the date. Also, arguments could be held remotely.

[8701girl]

Wade has changed his story again! Saying him and his SISTER st stayed in mj bed

[NatureCriminal7896]

Wade has changed his story again! Saying him and his SISTER st stayed in mj bed

just ignore him. we all know he's lying.

[PoP]

Wade has changed his story again! Saying him and his SISTER st stayed in mj bed

He’s full of bull$#|^.

[myosotis]

Wade has changed his story again! Saying him and his SISTER st stayed in mj bed

That's true, but this is really the Estate vs HBO thread. There is another thread here for Robson & Safechuck vs MJJ companies:

https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...k-Doe/page1213

[NatureCriminal7896]

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[NatureCriminal7896]

HBO urged an appeals court on Thursday to throw out a lawsuit brought by the Michael Jackson estate over the “Leaving Neverland” documentary.

The estate sued HBO for $100 million, arguing that the network broke a 27-year-old promise not to disparage the late pop star by accusing him of child sexual abuse.

The estate has also argued that the subjects of the documentary — Wade Robson and James Safechuck — had a financial incentive to fabricate their allegations. Jackson died in 2009, and so HBO cannot be sued for defaming him. Instead, the estate has invoked a non-disparagement provision from a contract for a 1992 concert film from Jackson’s “Dangerous” tour.

In September 2019, Judge George Wu sided with the Jackson estate, granting a request to take the case to arbitration. HBO appealed the ruling, claiming that the “Leaving Neverland” dispute had nothing to do with the 1992 contract.

Theodore Boutrous, arguing for HBO, urged a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn the lower court ruling on Thursday. He argued that the Jackson estate had filed the case as a “publicity stunt,” and that HBO would never have given Jackson and his heirs a perpetual veto over the network’s First Amendment rights.

“That is on its face absurd,” Boutrous argued. “There is nothing that suggests HBO intended that.”

Jonathan Steinsapir, arguing for the Jackson estate, countered that Jackson was the biggest star in the world at the time, and had the leverage to bargain for a strong non-disparagement provision.

Jackson “had been the subject of some extremely ridiculous tabloid reporting,” Steinsapir said. “It’s not crazy he would want that in an agreement.”

The judges seemed somewhat open to Boutrous’ argument that the 1992 contract is “far afield” from the “Leaving Neverland” dispute.

“This is pretty remote, isn’t it?” Judge Lawrence VanDyke asked Steinsapir.

But VanDyke also seemed inclined to leave the interpretation of the contract up to an arbitrator. Boutrous urged the panel instead to decide the case on its own.

“The court has a duty to interpret the contract to see if the dispute has its real substance in the contract,” Boutrous argued. “Consent is crucial. There was no agreement to arbitrate.”

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[8701girl]

Hbo are sickening

[NatureCriminal7896]

HBO full of crap