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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    They apparently worked on a few tracks, one we know of which is meant to be mostly complete is a song called Jungle. It's supposedly similar to Tabloid Junkie, in how the verses are sung fast and low which sounds cool

    Loving the feedback on this thread by the way guys. Sorry for the double post
    How do you know that Jungle is mostly complete. Do you have a Source for that Information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    The 1st recordings were released in the 1890s. There's dozens of different genres since then, and thousands of records released every year in many languages. So you're saying that you listened to all of the records that have been released from around a 130 year period to determine that 99% of them are worse than this song. You must have a lot of time on your hands.
    I have a lot of time on my hands yet you took the time to write THAT? What I'm saying is MJ on a lesser known album was better than the other artists albums of the time, p.s, MJ wasn't alive in the 1890s 😉😜
    Long Live The King

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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    Quote Originally Posted by mjfan_93 View Post
    How do you know that Jungle is mostly complete. Do you have a Source for that Information?
    I remember reading it in Damien Shields book Xscape origins, he mentions they worked on a few songs.
    Also I remember hearing from a well placed MJ friend in 2014 that Jungle was considered for the next release, it was around the same time he told me the album would be only 8 tracks (before the world press heard the album)
    I'm sure Jungle was written on Michael's list of songs to finish as well. I'm only going on what I've heard

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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    A Place With No Name, Blue Gangsta and Break Of Dawn
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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    Quote Originally Posted by mjfan_93 View Post
    How do you know that Jungle is mostly complete. Do you have a Source for that Information?
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    I remember reading it in Damien Shields book Xscape origins, he mentions they worked on a few songs.
    Also I remember hearing from a well placed MJ friend in 2014 that Jungle was considered for the next release, it was around the same time he told me the album would be only 8 tracks (before the world press heard the album)
    I'm sure Jungle was written on Michael's list of songs to finish as well. I'm only going on what I've heard
    The exact stage of completion of the ‘Jungle’ song remains unknown.

    What we know for sure is that ‘Jungle’ is an incomplete song by Dr. Freeze which was worked (in the early sessions) for a possible inclusion on the ‘Invincible’ album.

    We know also that ‘Jungle’ is an up-tempo song, with a rap oriented style, & it has a social theme about world’s problems & corruption.

    People who heard the song have described it as a mixture of ‘Tabloid Junkie’ & ‘Why You Wanna Trip on Me’.

    It is still unclear why ‘Jungle’ did not eventually make the ‘Invincible’ album.

    Personally, I am extremely curious to hear it.

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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    I talked to somebody who heard Jungle Slave in Paris where Michael Durham Prince played the song for them and he said that it's fully complete

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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    I have no clue how Jungle sounds, I'm only going on what I heard from a friend 5 years ago and the description given in Xscape Origins (I think it was the Blue Gangsta chapter). Hopefully we hear it one day, given the other songs in the sessions it'll be worth hearing. It will be nice to hear something even more uptempo from their work together, no doubt Mike will sound cool on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    I personally think Michael sounded his best during the Bad era/ Dangerous era but that aside, this is some of his finest vocals we have. What do you guys think?
    I always thought that the Dr. Freeze sessions were the sessions in which Michael sounded best during the Invincible era.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    Blue Gangsta is good yeah. I wondered, when I first heard APWNN, if the vocals had been recorded at different times in his life. To me the vocals towards the end of the track don't sound as good as the early verses.
    Well, lead vocals were recorded on September 8th and October 16th 1998.

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    APWNN and Blue Gangsta, I agree. They are some of Michael’s best vocal performances. But I feel that Break of Dawn features really weak vocals from Michael, much like most of Invincible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    APWNN and Blue Gangsta, I agree. They are some of Michael’s best vocal performances. But I feel that Break of Dawn features really weak vocals from Michael, much like most of Invincible.
    Weak in what way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Weak in what way?
    Weak as in his vocals on Break of Dawn and a lot of Invincible sound a bit strained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    Weak as in his vocals on Break of Dawn and a lot of Invincible sound a bit strained.
    Ya, it's very strained and worn out sounding.

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    Default Re: Are The Dr Freeze Sessions Vocally The Best Of MJ's Career?

    I agree with that. It sounds like he is screaming instead of singing. Imo I wish MJ stopped with that aggressive gritty vocal delivery. It got too repetitive and just sounded too strained in his later years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    I agree with that. It sounds like he is screaming instead of singing. Imo I wish MJ stopped with that aggressive gritty vocal delivery. It got too repetitive and just sounded too strained in his later years.
    I don’t share this feeling. I love his angry and gritty voice. To me it’s classic Michael Jackson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMWhizzle View Post
    I don’t share this feeling. I love his angry and gritty voice. To me it’s classic Michael Jackson.
    I loved it when he did it in Dangerous and History and Bad. He did it tactfully without it completely taking over the songs. Look at Who Is It or Black or White or Come Together. It's gritty raw and funky without it being overused and shouty and straight up strained. Now look at Invincible

    Unbreakable
    Heartbreaker
    Invincible
    Break Of Dawn
    Heaven Can Wait

    That's five songs back to back where he screams almost through every track. It gets repetitive after a while. The previous albums had a good mix of this imo. In the Thriller days he was also singing aggressive without sounding gritty or harsh

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