2016 shocking images of sadomasochism, child torture, adult and child nudity report - how to debunk?

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Alright. The most common problem I run into while defending Michael is based on a mirror article below:

Can someone explain the contenct of this article, and how to debunk those mentioning and citing this article. I am aware that the reports does not include any new material than from 2003, as opposed to it being claimed as NEW.

I followed the 2005 trial closely and know there were no child porn, but I am not very well versed of all the findings to comment on everything below.

The problem is when you have some regular person reading that article combined with Leaving Neverland, and its GAME SET MATCH already.

Is there any good articles written to counter this shit? I did not include all the text, since some it was irrelevant to my question.

What about the sex addiction pills?
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Michael Jackson's sick porn collection at Neverland - bondage, kids and animal torture
A previously unseen police report released in 2016 claimed Michael Jackson had a huge collection of images showing porn, animal torture and S&M sex at his Neverland Ranch


A stash of disturbing and borderline illegal pornographic images were found in Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch before his death.

The Thriller singer, who 10 years after his death from a drug overdose faces fresh claims of sexual abuse and assault against underage boys, collected grim images of nude and partially clothed teenagers at his vast home.

Allegations made against him in the Channel 4 documentary Leaving Neverland focus on two of his alleged victims - Wade Robson and James Safechuck - who say Jackson groomed, molested and preyed upon them.

Now questions are being asked again about the materials found inside Jackson's home during a raid in November 2003.

It was claimed the singer had stockpiled hundred of images showing pornography in a bid to seduce young boys - and he himself admitted sharing his bed with young boys.

The raid uncovered a huge collection of books, photos and footage at his Neverland home - much of which was pornographic.

His cache included transgender video porn, images of bondage and even what appeared to be young male erotica.

Footage of the raid shows officers storming each room, finding Jackson's infamous mannequins, the arcade room he allegedly used to lure children, and a hidden closet at the back of his bedroom - which was reportedly kept locked with three deadlocks.

Inside the closet, police reportedly found everything from stuffed animals to a signed photograph of child star Macaulay Culkin and alleged naked photos.

Footage also reveals dolls and merchandise in the room.

When detectives raided the Billie Jean singer’s home as part of the child sex abuse investigation against him, they reportedly found a trove of twisted photographs he had stashed - but Jackson's family slammed the claims.

It had been widely reported that a previously unseen police document claimed there were at least seven collections which showed boys in their teenage years - and in some cases younger - fully nude or partially clothed in Jackson's bedroom.

One of the collections, Taormina Wilhelm Von Gloeden, is described in court papers as: "Nude photos of teenage boys from late 1800s."

In the report, officers were said to have discovered photos and videos of men, women, boys and girls in sexual positions, drugs to treat sex addiction, with multiple prescriptions written by a number of physicians for people close to the star.


But Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department spoke out at the time, insisting it didn't release the documents.

"Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff's Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff's Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources," a representative of the Department said in an email to Billboard.

It came at the same time an arrest warrant was issued for the singer, which saw Jackson later turn himself into police when he returned to California.

Speaking to US website Radar Online, an investigator on the case said: "The documents exposed Jackson as a manipulative, drug-and-sex-crazed predator who used blood, gore, sexually explicit images of animal sacrifice and perverse adult sex acts to bend children to his will.

"He also had disgusting and downright shocking images of child torture, adult and child nudity, female bondage and sadomasochism
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The report stated that many of the materials featuring naked men and women in the home could be used for the purpose of trying to attract young men.

The investigator added: "Based on my training, this type of material can be used as part of the 'grooming' process, by which people (those seeking to molest children) lower the inhibitions of their intended victims and facilitate the molestation of said victims."

The items said to have been found included "a book depicting nude children" found in the singer's arcade room.

The report also said there were multiple books found in the master bedroom that included one with 'naked and semi-naked gay men' and another with 'pre-teen or early teenage individuals' who in some cases were 'nude or semi-nude’, and 'a book which contained nude photographs of men' in the 'master bathroom'.


Police also searched a rented storage space after Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Detective Craig Bonner requested a warrant.

The request to search Shurgard Storage came after police received a tip-off that Jackson had moved items into the unit after the investigation was launched.

According to the report, materials seized were "notes, diaries, documents, photographs, audiotapes and videotapes", along with more than 80 video recordings and computer hard drives.

The investigator added: "The documents collected by the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department paint a dark and frightening picture of Jackson.

"The Sheriff's Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff's Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense."

The rep continued: "The documents with a header titled Sheriff's Department that contain a case number appear to be Sheriff's Office documents. The photos that are interspersed appear to be some evidentiary photos taken by Sheriff's investigators and others are clearly obtained from the Internet."
 
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Hm... ask maybe experts like Luna Jo, Charles Thomsons or the persons who were in the Michael Jackson Innocent Project Podcast secretly about this.


It is intresting that they claim that it was found before MJs death but waited til he died to relase the report when he can't defend himselfe and can't sue them right?
When the story is true they could release it immediatly when they found it out instead of waiting 7 years after his death.
 
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Thanks. I use to always send that article to people saying MJ had child porn. But I dont think it covers everything.

What about the sex addiction pills? Have you heard that? Its not easy to contact Charles or Jolanda, they have never replied to anything I sent them on twitter.

I know the "findings" they quote are NOT new, they are from 2003 still. I also know they have used to portray art as GORE AND SADO porn. Sheesh. The article is just an absolute disaster.
 
What about the sex addiction pills? Have you heard that? Its not easy to contact Charles or Jolanda, they have never replied to anything I sent them on twitter.

Whrite the questions to jolanda under her latest video on youtube. There she often answers people cause she must always check every comment to delate and block evil haters.

The Jolanda which appears with social media adress in the podcast of the Michael Jackson Innocent Project project is a other MJ allegation expert you can ask.

But I think no Radar Online MJ article where the Mirror article is based on should be taken seriously.
 
Another article debunking this nonsense

https://people.com/crime/michael-jacksons-estate-blasts-new-pornography-reports/

And yeah The Mirror and Radar Online aren't exactly credible sources.

The child porn claims are ridiculous anyway. I don't know how anyone could believe that. MJ would have been arrested and charged had any child porn been found.

People need to use some common sense. There's no way MJ wouldn't be charged if any child porn had ever been found.
 
Agendas agendas.anyone would wonder as to why such provern B.S is been brought up here

Hold on here. I devoting basicly all my life to sit on social media to run a MJ PROMO machine, but I am personally not aware of all the facts concerning this. Although I am very well informed on most things. I just did not follow this story when it broke. And its a god damn mess to talk people out of it as it pretty much throws in everything but the kitchen sink!

I guess you can answer me about the sex addiction pills? Is that just made up by radaronline?
 
The leaked Police document that describes the three books literally states THEY ARE NOT CHILD PORN and do not meet the threshold to be considered illegal. I'm not too familiar with the Police language used on these reports but it appears one of them was unopened too.

These are books by award winning artists. These are books you can buy today, NOW, on Amazon. But it's child pornography because Michael Jackson had it in his massive house among his massive collection of books. It's pathetic.
 
This page covers everything except animals and pills, I don't know anything about that - https://themichaeljacksonallegation...er-been-found-in-michael-jacksons-possession/

This page has the thing I was about to link to in my response: a social media post from one of the photographers whose pics were featured in all the reports.

Link to the original post: https://www.instagram.com/p/BG_StlYQ5w4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The fact that the picture in question wasn't publicly available until 2010--seven years after the 2003 raid and a year after Michael DIED--should be proof of how full of shit that whole story was. Too bad a lot of the media didn't correct this and to this day there are still some stupid ****ing people who believe this pile of goat shit.
 
This page has the thing I was about to link to in my response: a social media post from one of the photographers whose pics were featured in all the reports.

Link to the original post: https://www.instagram.com/p/BG_StlYQ5w4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The fact that the picture in question wasn't publicly available until 2010--seven years after the 2003 raid and a year after Michael DIED--should be proof of how full of shit that whole story was. Too bad a lot of the media didn't correct this and to this day there are still some stupid ****ing people who believe this pile of goat shit.

Exactly. And they tell us we're mad to believe there's an anti-Jackson agenda.
 
Isn't this stale news? I think I remember this coming up and the media being in a furore about it for about a week and then it faded away.
 
Isn't this stale news? I think I remember this coming up and the media being in a furore about it for about a week and then it faded away.

It is, but with all the LN shit it's crept back up in some circles and people have actually brought it up in arguments like its fact.
 
Thanks. I use to always send that article to people saying MJ had child porn. But I dont think it covers everything.

What about the sex addiction pills? Have you heard that? Its not easy to contact Charles or Jolanda, they have never replied to anything I sent them on twitter.

I know the "findings" they quote are NOT new, they are from 2003 still. I also know they have used to portray art as GORE AND SADO porn. Sheesh. The article is just an absolute disaster.

I was spending 14 hours a day every day 365 days from 2013 to 2005. I have read every prosecution and defence motion. Never ever did anyone mention anything about sex addiction pills EVER.
 
To the people who have read the lawsuits from Wade and James.
Do you think they get inspiration for their lawsuits from this articles in 2016.
I know that James for example claims in his lawsuit in 2016 that he was abused in this secret closet or secret room by MJ.
Would the dates of this articles and the lawsits fit to the imagination that Wade and James get inspirations for their claims from these articles?
 
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