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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Janet Jackson had her first plastic surgery on her nose when she was only a 16-year-old girl.

    Actually, she revealed that herself on several occasions, and if you also compare her nose before and after that age, you can see that clearly.

    Aside from her nose, Janet Jackson also had a series of plastic surgeries later on her facial skin (facelift) aimed mostly at reducing symptoms of her aging.

    Janet Jackson hates having a saggy face combined with wrinkles and a slacking skin, so when those symptoms began to appear on her face, she immediately resorted to a series of cosmetic surgical operations on her face in order to reduce or eliminate them.

    As far as the bullying is concerned, Michael Jackson in particular had a very difficult time during his childhood.

    Joseph Jackson and the brothers during the early years used to call him all the time with some nasty nicknames (‘Big Nose’ and ‘Liver Lips’, among others), a behaviour that created a very deep, irreparable psychological trauma to Michael Jackson for the rest of his life.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    Probably all of them...
    Just going from the look of it, I think Tito is the only one who didn't have a nose job.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    As far as the bullying is concerned, Michael Jackson in particular had a very difficult time during his childhood.

    Joseph Jackson and the brothers during the early years used to call him all the time with some nasty nicknames (‘Big Nose’ and ‘Liver Lips’, among others), a behaviour that created a very deep, irreparable psychological trauma to Michael Jackson for the rest of his life.
    That's so sad. Michael was beautiful. maybe they was just jealous how beautiful an child he was. yes puberty does sucks but we all go though it. you can't stop it. it's gonna happen. i'm so sorry he had to go though that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Janet Jackson also had a series of plastic surgeries later on her facial skin (facelift) aimed mostly at reducing symptoms of her aging.

    Janet Jackson hates having a saggy face combined with wrinkles and a slacking skin, so when those symptoms began to appear on her face, she immediately resorted to a series of cosmetic surgical operations on her face in order to reduce or eliminate them.
    I had a feeling she did something to her face....

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Janet Jackson had her first plastic surgery on her nose when she was only a 16-year-old girl.

    Actually, she revealed that herself on several occasions, and if you also compare her nose before and after that age, you can see that clearly.
    I didn't know she did revealed that. i never heard her say it. but you can tell she did.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Joseph Jackson and the brothers during the early years used to call him all the time with some nasty nicknames (‘Big Nose’ and ‘Liver Lips’, among others), a behaviour that created a very deep, irreparable psychological trauma to Michael Jackson for the rest of his life.
    I don't think Michael hated his face when he got older. i never heard him said it aside form being an teenage. if so that's really sad. Michael was beautiful man inside out. what a cruel family. no wonder Michael left them once he went solo. good for him.

    we all aged you can't stop it. it's an natural thing.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    a behavior that created a very deep, irreparable psychological trauma to Michael Jackson for the rest of his life.
    i think Michael did go though trauma. i really feel he should of got help for it. he was so stubborn. i think if he did his life would been somewhat better. not all the way do to the damage that been made and so on but better than he lived. they claim Michael went through series of depression. poor mike.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by MJJuniorSinceMW View Post
    WhyWhy do people wear fancy clothes?
    - Why do people, especially girls/women use makeup, eyeliner, lipgloss, etc?
    - Why do people have special hairdos?
    - Why do people cover up pimples, spots, etc.?
    - Why do people care about their look anyway?

    People have the right to express themselves. Especially they have the right, to do something/anything if they think they look better & they therefore feel more comfortable in there skin (no pun intended).

    Michael felt he needed to cover up his condition, so be it, it's his right. It was the 80's & 90's.

    I don't get it: millennials & youth in general nowadays are trying so hard to be/or to come across as oh so tolerant.
    But oftentimes it feels like the world is becoming more intolerant by the minute.

    If y'all are oh so tolerant, then don't be tolerant only for one side. Let all people enjoy this tolerance.

    One example: I can't stand pupils laughing at classmates who can't afford expensive clothes, or brands.
    But I also can't stand people who bitch about others who have the money & who can afford themselves something that others may not.
    If i can't afford to drive a porsche, i don't need to bash or hate on people who can & will spend the money on such a luxury car.

    Sorry for my rant. But that is something i see a lot on social media & in forums like this.

    Tolerance goes both ways!

    Back on topic: MJ had every right to do what ever he wanted, concerning the way he wanted to look.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anna View Post
    Michael was bullied when he was growing up, which resulted in him developing a negative view of his appearance. Being black and having a condition that turns your skin white would be psychologically damaging for anyone, let alone the most famous and scrutinised black artist on the planet. That level of fame and attention combined with Michael's shyness, body image issues and vitiligo, it's no surprise he wanted to cover it up. I'm sure he wanted to avoid the cruel headlines and people staring at his skin condition instead of focusing on his art.
    ^^^EXACTLY, MJJunior and Anna. Yet, I really don’t get this idea that a lot of people have, nowadays, when it comes to those who suffer from the disfiguring effects of an autoimmune disease —— and, let’s be totally honest, here, that’s what it was with Michael, and it obviously IS (no offense to anyone who believes otherwise) —— to consider such effects, if and when they’re left untreated (due to an affected individual’s knowingly, deliberately, and intentionally refusing to seek and receive treatment on his/her own for such disorders), as “beautiful.”

    However, I very strongly disagree with you and other posters, on this whole “body-image-issues” thing, which implies that he had some type of mental illness or psychological instability. Why are you saying this about him? Sure, he was teased and bullied as a child, because of the size and shape of his nose. And, he suffered from severe acne as a teenager. But, I don’t believe in anything that sounds more like tabloid garbage and media speculation, rather than THE TRUTH. Can any of you please explain your views to me, so I can understand where you’re coming from, on this? Thanks.

    Is it really any of the media’s business, or even ours as members of “the public,” to have determined whether or not Michael should have CHOSEN to privately seek, and get, treatment for not only severe scalp-burn injuries, but also for the two autoimmune disorders (Lupus and Vitiligo) that he dealt with in the last half of his life? NO, of course, not. To him, this was a private matter that he wanted to have kept to himself, not shared with the public through the media, as just another number of “details” of his personal life to be scrutinized and used to spread malicious gossip, rumors, innuendos, outright bold-faced LIES about his (supposedly, allegedly) having “issues” of one kind or another, about him “hating his race/ethnicity” or “wanting to look and be ‘White,’ ” which are all ridiculous statements.

    What’s “wrong” with him not wanting to draw unnecessary media attention/intense public scutiny to his disfigurements and medical health problems, and having wanted to look like what was as “normal” to him as possible, so he could focus on his music and other aspects of his life? Absolutely NOTHING, not one thing that was up to him —— and, was his personal, private business alone —— that he had EVERY right to have done on his own, if and when he felt he was ready and did what he wanted to do. Who are we, to judge what this man either “should” or “shouldn’t” have done? None of that is up to any of us, to determine about him.
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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Your right but all of this just cause trouble. as someone who has disabilities i'm am very open to them. i don't know maybe those days were different compare to now. nowadays everybody is open about their disorders/disabilities. if he was more open about it people wouldn't think other stuff. we knew something wasn't right when his face started changing he could of just go ahead said it.

    also i don't like your comment your comment offends me and person who asked me this question saying people with disorders/disabilities are not beautiful. Michael was beautiful with or without his vitiligo and wish i there and the person who asked this question to say so.

    Michael suffer a lot without anyone helping him. also Michael had friends with disorders/disabilities so there's differences between that.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    I’m sorry, if you took my comments addressed to other posters the wrong way, NatureCriminal. You have a different point of view than I and some others have. All opinions should be respected, even if we disagree with one another, on this.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    I have always believed that if you don't tell your story, somebody's gonna tell it for you. And in Michael's case, people were running with stories about everything he was doing with his image before he decided to set the record straight. Still, I don't think Michael getting out in front of the rumor mill would have been enough to shape his own narrative, but I believe it's something he should have been more vocal about from the jump. But knowing Michael's makeup, he probably was petrified. I know people who haven't let themselves be defined by this disease and others that are worse and they have instead let their personalities or their talents define them. People soon look past whatever may make you feel self-conscious. But of course these people aren't Michael Jackson. It's always been a paradox for me: Michael Jackson, the biggest pop star of all time, yet a guy prone to low self-esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilmert View Post
    I have always believed that if you don’t tell your story, somebody’s gonna tell it for you. And in Michael’s case, people were running with stories about everything he was doing with his image before he decided to set the record straight. Still, I don't think Michael getting out in front of the rumor mill would have been enough to shape his own narrative, but I believe it’s something he should have been more vocal about from the jump. But, knowing Michael’s makeup, he probably was petrified. I know people who haven’t let themselves be defined by this disease and others that are worse and they have instead let their personalities or their talents define them. People soon look past whatever may make you feel self-conscious. But of course, these people aren’t Michael Jackson. It’s always been a paradox for me: Michael Jackson, THE biggest “ ‘Pop’ star” of all time, yet a guy prone to low self-esteem.
    Your comments seem to be the most fair to both sides of this topic, Wilmert. On the one hand, there are people who, like myself, feel that it was totally up to Michael Jackson, himself, to have decided what HE —— and, only he, without any interference in/scrutiny of his private life by either the media or we ourselves (“the public”), despite any passing of negative judgment on his personal decisions, whatever they may have been at the time he made them —— wanted to do with his life, how he wanted to look when having been seen in public, etc., as such personal choices were HIS to have made when he felt he was ready, not ours nor anyone else’s. He had every right to want to be left alone.

    On the other, there are some who feel that he should have come out and went public with his suffering from autoimmune diseases well before the interview he gave to Oprah in 1993, and refused to have sought and received medical treatment for his conditions, such treatment having made him look much more “normal” than what he otherwise would, had he not received it. To such people, he should have went out in public with bald spots and burn scars on his scalp, with obviously noticeable splotches all over his face and body —— without him covering them up using make-up, without him wearing hats or certain types of clothes, for instance —— and, a big red rash across most of his face, particularly, on his nose and cheeks. The media would probably have had a field day with all kinds of so-called “news reports” focusing on just his physical health problems, instead of on his MUSIC. That really would have been a shame, and he had already been through enough of it.

    He revealed his condition when he felt he was ready to answer questions about his private life, and he didn’t owe the media, nor the public, any explanation as to why he waited until Early-1993 to go on national T.V. and say anything at all about personal matters he wished to keep private. It wasn’t anyone else’s decision but Michael’s. He should have rightfully been able to choose to be left alone; No one has the right to know every single little thing about someone, just because he or she so happens to be a public figure/celebrity.
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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Michael was human being just like the rest of us. he's no different if he an superstar or not. a lot people look up to Michael people with disabilities/disorders. i understand it probably was low self of esteem but how can he have friends with disabilities/disorders while he have them himself? he's not special anyone of us.

    anyway i was asking question for an person. i wish i could delete this thread.

    i'll let this person know that she beautiful no matter what. michael isn't with us anymore so i can't ask him this question if i want it to.

    People with disabilities/disorders are beautiful and if no one agree with that are sick people. i'm only on this site for Michael that it. other then that i wouldn't even be here.

    i feel depressed and sick now. maybe times were different then because if that stuff roll around today it wouldn't be accepted at all. i'm so glad times changed. i wasn't even around in this time period and i'm glad i wasn't if it was like that back then.

    r.i.p Michael you was beautiful inside out i'm glad you out of this cruel world. i'm just sorry for your family have deal with the fact you're gone and what everything is happening right now. i hope you are now at peace.

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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    It’s 2019, and Winnie Harlow makes headlines for showing Vitiligo. Walk around as a dark person with white markings all over you as a “normal person” in a Wal-Mart and tell me the stares don’t have any psychological effect. Imagine being in his shoes!

    His appearance was talked about years before his skin tone changed, he embodied bravery.
    I TOTALLY agree with you, here. Was Michael acting like a “coward” in any way at all, just for making the decision for himself as to if and when he wanted to go public with something as personal —— and, as private —— as his having had medical problems that could have been severely disfiguring if left untreated?

    YES, indeed, Michael Joseph Jackson, one of THE best-known and -recognized celebrities in show-business, was a human being. Like all human beings, even he had the right to his privacy, the right to be left alone. Just because of his fame and celebrity status, it doesn’t make him any less of a human being, but it doesn’t give the media and the public the right to intrude on his personal life, either; He owed the public and the media absolutely NOTHING he either didn’t want to give at all, or wasn’t ready and willing to give on exclusively his terms rather than on either the media’s or any of ours.

    I really don’t get this ‘He should have went public and revealed his medical problems much earlier than he did, so that he could have been the example, the public “face,” if you will, of the disfiguring ailments and diseases he suffered from, during the last half of his life’ mentality of some people today. True, Winnie Harlow made her decision to immediately go public —— ironically, in one of THE MOST public and visible of all professions, modelling —— without seeking or receiving any treatment for her condition, and that’s her business, her right to do as she wants, on her own terms. But, to negatively judge Michael’s deeply personal decision he made, under the circumstances at the time he made it, is completely unfair to him and wrongly based on the false assumption that his privately having sought and received treatment for his Vitiligo skin condition, along with that which he received for the obvious effects of Lupus and his scalp-burn injuries (so that he looked much, much more “normal” in his general appearance), and not going public with it any sooner than he did, was an act of “cowardice.”

    It was no such thing, rather, it was more an act of “bravery,” on his part, just to have lived through nearly every aspect of his entire life and career being constantly judged, scrutinized, examined in detail, gossipped about and speculated on. To have been the subject of misleading innuendos, implications and outright bold-faced LIES continuing to be told about him, even when he hasn’t been able to defend himself during the ten years since he passed. Not everyone who goes through the same circumstances will deal with them in the exact same way. To expect someone like Michael, in his situation at the time, to have handled things the way someone else would have, is not only unfair to his memory and reputation as a person, it’s simply flat-out WRONG to do that.
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    Default Re: Why did Michael cover up his vitiligo instead letting it be?

    No one should even feel obliged to disclose any personal health information with the world – famous or not. It's a deeply personal decision to keep that private or tell it to the world. We can only be thankful when a famous person decides to share this information, because it can help a lot of other people, but it should never be mandatory.

    Michael shared this information when he felt it was appropriate to do so, and when he felt safe enough to do so. It was good he did – but keeping it to himself the rest of his life would have been fine too. It's his choice.

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