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    Actually, Wanna Scream, I did look up both Web sites, even had joined one of them, just to find out what it was, out of curiosity.

    I now understand what you were trying to say, but O.T.O.H., get SO doggone fed up, sick and tired of the way that almost his entire adult career as a vocalist has been underrated, overlooked, put aside and everything but completely ignored altogether, to mainly comment on his dancing skills and showmanship as an entertainer —— except for the “Thriller”/“Victory”-era phenomenon of the Early- to Mid-1980’s and its aftermath, when Michael had his biggest musical-career success ever —— (as such pinpointing and focusing on his personal private life, on any- and everything else but music [which is really, really sad], wouldn’t happen until the later years, particularly, from the Early-’90’s onwards) that you will understand how I feel as well, when it comes to the media and anything even remotely having to do with them in the slightest degree at all.

    And, as for these lists, they either may or may not be trusted and accurate, depending on whomever compiled them. There is nothing for me to really disagree with you about, necessarily, for each of us to keep expressing our points of view, here.
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    Dr. Conrad Murray (who had access to MJ’s medical records while he was his personal doctor in 2009) revealed that MJ was given hormone injections since the early stages of his puberty in order to delay puberty so as to continue keeping his voice high pitched.

    But it was not just those injections, because MJ also used to train his voice a lot in order to remain high.

    Teddy Riley revealed that MJ was capable of having not only a high voice but also a deep voice, but it was a matter of choice for MJ to keep having that high voice.

    According to Teddy Riley, MJ always wanted to be a high singer, which meant that he had to speak high as well in order to be able to maintain that high voice when he sang.

    Teddy Riley compared the training of the human voice with the training of the body’s muscles.

    Also, Teddy Riley revealed that it was Seth Riggs who made MJ talk high always, regardless of the circumstances:

    No matter what you do, when you talk to people you talk high!” (Seth Riggs)

    Teddy Riley also revealed that MJ used to play pranks on him through telephone by imitating certain deep voices.

    MJ’s deep voice is also apparent on certain of his on-stage appearances, like when uttering few times the word “You” towards the end of ‘Man In The Mirror’ (at the 1988 Grammy Awards).

    The bottomline is that MJ had a wide vocal range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    The voice that Michael used in public wasn't even his real voice.
    Ture.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Dr. Conrad Murray (who had access to MJ’s medical records while he was his personal doctor in 2009) revealed that MJ was given hormone injections since the early stages of his puberty in order to delay puberty so as to continue keeping his voice high pitched.

    But it was not just those injections, because MJ also used to train his voice a lot in order to remain high.

    Teddy Riley revealed that MJ was capable of having not only a high voice but also a deep voice, but it was a matter of choice for MJ to keep having that high voice.

    According to Teddy Riley, MJ always wanted to be a high singer, which meant that he had to speak high as well in order to be able to maintain that high voice when he sang.

    Teddy Riley compared the training of the human voice with the training of the body’s muscles.

    Also, Teddy Riley revealed that it was Seth Riggs who made MJ talk high always, regardless of the circumstances:

    No matter what you do, when you talk to people you talk high!” (Seth Riggs)

    Teddy Riley also revealed that MJ used to play pranks on him through telephone by imitating certain deep voices.

    MJ’s deep voice is also apparent on certain of his on-stage appearances, like when uttering few times the word “You” towards the end of ‘Man In The Mirror’ (at the 1988 Grammy Awards).

    The bottomline is that MJ had a wide vocal range.

    While it is true that Michael had a wide vocal range, Michael was NOT given hormone injections to keep his voice high during puberty. The murderer, Conrad Murray, is a liar and not credible. Btw, I have never heard of or seen any quote from Seth Riggs telling Michael to speak in a high voice when you talk to people. Where is the source of that supposed “quote”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJJFan105 View Post
    How did MJ keep his high Tenor voice? What other male singer has a high Tenor voice like MJ? I read that Joe injected MJ with some hormones when he was 10 to 18 years old to keep his high Tenor voice? That also cause him to act childlike and hang around other boys. Is that true that MJ's voice is maintained high by hormone injection? Can a natural man's voice be that high Tenor? Either way if it's true or not, MJ is still a great singer and artist. You have to do what you have to do to be the BEST!
    That’s not true that Joe injected Michael with hormones to keep his voice high. ANOTHER tabloid lie. Btw, I guess none of you have heard Jackie, Michael’s oldest brother, speak? His voice is MUCH higher than Michael when he speaks, of course people, even fans, don’t notice that.🤔FTR, Michael is a tenor, but his tenor is not usually high. I know, because I work with male voices who are higher than Michael’s.

    Finally, don’t believe everything that you read. SOME things are just not rational, in other words, don’t make sense. To put it bluntly, if Jackie’s voice is even higher than Michael’s, why has no one accused Joe of injecting Jackie with hormones to keep his voice high?
    We all know when it comes to Michael, people will say and believe anything.😕

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    Joe injected? Man the jacksons are the 1st ppl i heard to be 1st at everything. 1st it was mj turning himself white....THAT SHIT IS IMPOSSIBLE to take melanin from your skin. Then him & his sisters r the same person...man oh man....what an incredible family the media makes regular human beings be

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    Michael had a deep voice. he just knew how to change the pitch of his voice to lows and highs. his voice was still sort of high but not very high. his voice was kind of in the middle.



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    Also Michael voice got higher when he were nervous or shy.



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    To ALL of you commenting on Michael and his adult singing-voice, in this thread:

    1.) He NEVER, EVER (contrary to what people so desperately want to believe about him) “faked” the natural sound of his voice, no matter whether he used it for singing or for speech. Those posters who have issues with the fact that his voice was 100% REAL, they are the ones who keep bringing up this ignorant, stupid business of supposed, alleged “fakery” and “phoniness” going on, when there was no such thing.

    2.) Michael was definitely capable of reaching very high notes in his Upper Register without his necessarily having to rely on, or to depend upon, using “Falsetto” like most Male singers do, who have much deeper voices than what his was.

    3.) Michael had an extremely broad Vocal Range of at least 4 Octaves (according to what Seth Riggs —— who was his voice-teacher for more than three decades, and one of the few people who knew anything about what his voice was already capable of, through having worked with him —— had once said, regarding his voice and its abilities, though he very well may have been able to do a whole lot more than what he wanted to reveal to the public, as some things he preferred to keep to himself).

    I strongly believe that, while both older brother Jackie and Michael had nearly the same identical pitch of voice, their vocal tone (or, timbre) was each completely different —— as Jackie’s tone sounded the much, much “older” of the two brothers, while Michael’s sounded “younger” —— so, don’t confuse “timbre” with “pitch.” In fact —— except for Tito, who has the deepest, lowest-pitched and heaviest voice —— nearly ALL of the Jackson brothers have soft-spoken natural voices, anyway, with Jackie’s and Michael’s having been the highest-pitched.

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    And where, MJFrenzy, do you think Conrad Murray got his outrageously far-fetched ideas from, to put in his own book? He got them, more than likely, from a doctor who had never even examined Michael as one of his patients —— much LESS than that, Michael’s ever having set foot in his office —— let alone, their ever having met one another. This doctor also wrote a book, several years before Murray did, that originally came up with this stupid, ignorant, outright bold-faced LIE.

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    And where, MJFrenzy, do you think Conrad Murray got his outrageously far-fetched ideas from, to put in his own book? He got them, more than likely, from a doctor who had never even examined Michael as one of his patients —— much LESS than that, Michael’s ever having set foot in his office —— let alone, their ever having met one another. This doctor also wrote a book, several years before Murray did, that originally came up with this stupid, ignorant, outright bold-faced LIE. Here are some comments from posts on another board, discussing that very subject matter:

    This link below claims that Michael took Cyproterone (an antiandrogen) not only to thwart acne but also to keep from developing into a full man.

    http://www.feelnubia.com/index.php/c...astratedq.html

    Being that he had “Peter Pan Syndrome,” this doesn't seem too far fetched. Though if he ever took one of these pills, I think most likely he started around the “Bad” Era.
    First of all, the link you posted is nothing but the latest “new” version of a very old story. It’s an ancient piece-of-garbage rumor that has been circulating around the Internet ever since Michael had passed, and had probably been in existence (in some form, or another, only changing the circumstances of “who did what to him, when”) dating back to when he first came fully out of puberty in his late teen years.

    Because of this type of speculation concerning his voice and how it eventually ended up having sounded like it had, everything from questioning his gender to negative assumptions being made about his personal life has been the subject matter of “tabloid” gossip.

    This time, it involves a doctor; Though he may be quite expert in the field of medicine he specializes in, he absolutely does NOT have the medical training, expertise, knowledge nor understanding of anything —— be it physically, mentally or otherwise, for that matter —— about Michael Jackson at all, whatsoever, to base his personal opinion on (and, more importantly, not one single shred of solid evidence to back up such ridiculous, outrageous, far-fetched claims as he makes), regarding the subject matter of his book.

    What this doctor was trying to promote, at the time, is not based on fact, but only states his views speculating as to what might have happened to Michael during his youth. The article posted on the Web site —— a review of the book’s content —— is factually wrong. Rather than bring the truth out, and come forward with it, the book’s author merely puts out a “new” twist on an old LIE:


    Was Michael Jackson Castrated to Insure his 3-Octave Voice?”

    “A few years after his death, news linking late King of Pop Michael Jackson with abuse of prescription drugs made the rounds again, as a French doctor alleged that Michael Jackson owed his legendary three octave voice to chemical castration.

    Alain Branchereau, an opera buff and professor of vascular surgery at Timone University Hospital in France's Mediterranean port of Marseille, told the French News Agency AFP that he discussed Jackson’s unusual range with colleagues and they deduced that the Pop Star might have been accidentally castrated through medications used to treat acne —— a condition Jackson suffered from at the age of 12.

    Experts say that Jackson might have used Cyproterone —— a drug used widely for the treatment of acne in the sixties and seventies and until the development of Leuprolide, Cyproterone was one of the few drugs used to treat precocious puberty. It was also used in animal experimentation to investigate the actions of androgens in fetal sexual differentiation. Cyproterone is an anti-androgen, which works by suppressing the production of testosterone —— the male hormone.

    A 1966 experiment investigated a 'homosexual model' looking at the effect of anti-androgens on sexual behavior and preference. Speculations became rife that the prolonged use of the drug might have been deliberately inflicted on the then teen-star as a means of protecting his vocal assets. In the opinion of Alain Branchereau, Jackson had the ‘voice of a castrato!’ ”

    ____, I only quoted the article, itself. This is a review of a book, written by an author who only has expertise in his particular medical field, not by someone whose word, or personal opinion, is to be taken at face-value as solid, credible “proof” or evidence (of whatever it was —— that either may or may not have happened to Michael when he was a child —— according to his view) and shouldn’t be questioned, just because he is a doctor.

    That’s equally just as bad as saying, “Michael’s voice was a ‘fake,’ a ‘put-on,’ an ‘act’ - just so he could create an ‘image’ for himself.” The reason why I referred to this article, calling it “a ‘new’ twist on an old LIE” in my previous comments, is because of the fact that some form, or variation, of this same ridiculous LIE has been in existence —— at one time or another, but told in different ways, using different circumstances —— ever since Michael grew up out of his childhood/adolescence and showed the obvious physical signs of his having become a MAN.

    Though his voice didn’t change nearly as drastically as some (even posters on this board, to be honest) would like to believe it had, it —— without any doubt or question —— absolutely DID change, however slightly the degree. He never again would sound quite exactly like he did as a young boy, yet, his voice always maintained its “young” sound; As his Lower Range expanded, he didn’t “lose” his Upper Range completely.

    People make up stories about him, still, to this day. All his adult life, they have, and will continue to. Why go over every single statement and claim made in this article, the doctor’s book and everything related to it, if what I have read of it is already known and proven to be false? That would make no sense at all. The book, the review article, and everything else related to it, it has no credibility, not even in one sentence of it.
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    I agree with your post. It is sad that some “fans” actually believe the crap that these people say about Michael without any thought or research. All it really takes is COMMON SENSE. You don’t have to be a genius in order to use common sense and rationalization. Is it any wonder that haters use and believe crap about Michael when even sone “fans” promote that garbage.��

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    Michael voice wasn't all that deep. it's wasn't all that high either. it was in between. Michael didn't have a childhood and was abuse as a child.
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