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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Most people are sexual beings, his style and dancing at time was very sexual. It's natural to sexualize an individual you find sexy (or not) if 1. You have a sex drive 2. Someone is doing sexualized movements.

    Asexual or not, grabbing your crotch and thrusting is going to be sexualized. Idk why its thought of as negitive.. sexuality is not ugly!
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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Why do people sexualize attractive people? Like, seriously? This isn't some new phenom.

    MJ bought into it, too. He knew he was a good looking man and moved sensually for the right song/video. Him being religious is irrelevent.

    Also, what fans think/do is out of his control.

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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Hahahahaha i guess your right. but he always said that he hate his smile and that he was shy. everything he did on stage was for his fans. when he got off stage he was a different person. so i don't know. probably will never know. yes you can be sexy and spiritual but at a stopped point. and that's what he did. that's why Michael got so mad when his fans did dirty stuff but he only did it for fun and like you said in videos.

    That's true but i think that's disrespecting him.

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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Will you pair (1nn5/JC08) give it a rest...clearly you don't like each other so why don't you just put each other on ignore? You're spoiling things for others here so a word of warning you need to be cutting it out or further action will be taken, oh and 1nn5 don't bring my moderating team into things, just because certain members continue to post things you don't agree with does not mean my staff supports them, they act according to the community rules 'Nothing more' so do NOT throw your petty stones at them please.

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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    I'm gonna admit Michael was very attractive man. but did he like his fans doing sexual stuff to him? from looking Michael said he wasn't that kind of guy. but it also make me think why he did some sexual stuff?

    what looked sexual to us wasn't actually sexual to him?
    Are you chinese?

    That could be an excuse, for you, since you ask some really WEIRD and maybe some would say, just naive questions.... and you don't seem to stop.... how many threads did you just start up?


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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Quote Originally Posted by mysterygirl7 View Post
    Are you chinese?
    Was this supposed to be a joke ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterygirl7 View Post
    Are you chinese?

    That could be an excuse, for you, since you ask some really WEIRD and maybe some would say, just naive questions.... and you don't seem to stop.... how many threads did you just start up?


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    That is a bit offensive to Chinese people, therefore do not make such an analogy again please, the Chinese are very good decent people who deserver better than to be used as ammo in some petty argument.
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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Ok, how does this question have anything to do with someone being Chinese?

    This was a really interesting thread (especially to me, given my personal background and academic work I've done), and people keep derailing it.

    It really is an interesting idea: supposing Michael was asexual and had been aware and out about it, I have to wonder what effect that might have had on the ace community. On the one hand, it would be epic to have the most famous person ever as "one of us," but on the other hand, it would probably make all the MJ haters hate ace people, unfortunately. I will say that, while initial studies put asexuals as 1% of people, now more recent studies are showing more like 5% to 7%. There's more of us out there than you realize!

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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    I'm gonna admit Michael was very attractive man. but did he like his fans doing sexual stuff to him? from looking Michael said he wasn't that kind of guy. but it also make me think why he did some sexual stuff?

    what looked sexual to us wasn't actually sexual to him?

    I feel like because they take Michael as an enigma, they read too much into certain aspects to fit their theory. You can be sexual at one time but not find it appropriate to be in the next. The same way you wouldn't so much as hug your boss at work or show PDA in the street but be all for it in the context of your own home.

    The same way Michael could be sexual on stage but find it odd if some fan tried to grab at him.

    I think he played into his sexuality in performance but in private who wants somebody overly aggressive coming on to them.

    Also think about us seeing him grow in a 40 year career. When his religious convictions and age changed so would his expression of sexuality, he would become less shy about expressing it. See the way he'd blush up a storm at award shows and speeches when woman were screaming for him versus his performances. Hell, sometimes he was straight pervy in the zaddy years (eg. Invincible signing, checking women out and openly commenting on their bodies from his limo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    That is a bit offensive to Chinese people, therefore do not make such an analogy again please, the Chinese are very good decent people who deserver better than to be used as ammo in some petty argument.
    Believe me, I have had some friends, and acquaintances (and still have) from China. And they are very direct, and straight to the point, and ask questions, that are right in the face! So it's not offensive, it's just the way it is. It's also part of why I like them.
    But here we are talking Michael, who we all love and adore, and respect. And if you know me, you might have noticed, that I haven't excactly been the one to ever step over a line.... in anyway!! on this forum! EVER! I have always seen it as a nice place to hang out, which I didn't want to ruin in ANY way.... I always kept to the, I would almost say: American way of politeness, - where you are as respectful as: "A Jackson!!" funny enough.... now here comes my point. As of lately, you have all these new accounts, with people asking the most dumb, and stupid "don't even go there" "I would never be so disrespecful" kind-of-noncense questions.....!!! Like this: "did he like his fans doing sexual stuff to him?"... I HOPE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE, who finds this SIMPLY EMBARRASSING, to the core!!
    You might be happy, that there are now new members and activity, but at least, let us fight back, if some of them are just troublemakers… I can read, just from seeing the user name - that this is not a fan! NatureCriminal and some numbers… - seems like a person (who just knows that Smooth Criminal was one of his songs… ), and who wants to ask all those "let's paint Michael as not so innocent" questions…. there have also been plenty of topics on his look and plastic surgery…. I mean… if you allow people to ask anything… then, you should also allow people to fight hard back… and I'm at the point now, where… it's either honesty…. or…. simply… I loose interest..! For me the forum gets ruined, this way…. I respect Michael so much… let's pretend he SAW those topics here… about his look, wouldn't he be sad, you think? This forum (thank you) was a FORCE during 2004 and 2005!!!! You rocked it!! I opened my account, in Cali - at the trial….!! (or leading up to it, rather)

    Example: let's say the next topic is: "What do you think about this operation blabla?"
    Then my answer (now the honest version) would be: "Why the HECK do we need to discuss this? Don't you like Michael the way he is? Why are you here?"
    - and then I would seem like the rude one! You know how it is…. you can't fight the stupidity, unless you really FIGHT IT….. like what Taj and Brandi are doing…. go out now, and be honest!
    Does this make sense, I'm pretty tired….
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterygirl7 View Post
    Are you chinese?

    That could be an excuse, for you, since you ask some really WEIRD and maybe some would say, just naive questions.... and you don't seem to stop.... how many threads did you just start up?


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    uuuh. you don't have read my questions. you know. i'm new here and have mental delays. no i'm not chinese but even if i was that's very disrespectful. you know being chinese doesn't make anyone stupid. by fact chinese people are very smart human beings by the way. that's very rude and racist what you said. and pretty sure MJ wouldn't like it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterygirl7 View Post
    Are you chinese?

    That could be an excuse, for you, since you ask some really WEIRD and maybe some would say, just naive questions.... and you don't seem to stop.... how many threads did you just start up?


    STOP IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    I'm gonna admit Michael was very attractive man. but did he like his fans doing sexual stuff to him? from looking Michael said he wasn't that kind of guy. but it also make me think why he did some sexual stuff?

    what looked sexual to us wasn't actually sexual to him?
    i personally feel only someone who actually knew the man personally can speak to his sexuality as he kept this part very quiet and close to his chest. i dont for a second believe he was asexual he may have been paranoid as he grew older making him less comfortable around strange women but no one can say he didnt have a secret lover. these ppl were made to sign NDA's and if they spoke the estate will come for them. privately they may talk but never to us the public. so labeling him is just wrong. ps we have been privvy to most of his exwife's shenanigans enough to know she wouldnt marry a dude who wouldnt have sex with her, so stop fooling yourselves into believing he died a virgin, its ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Why Do People Sexualize Michael?

    why do people sexualise mj .....well cuz MJ WAS SEXY!

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