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    Default Re: Quincy Jones and O2 Arena have changed the title of the show .Please DEMAND A REFUND !

    Quote Originally Posted by mo_rizwan View Post
    Guys (& Girls).....this is Simple:

    For those of you who made the purchase by Credit Card, contact the card company and ask for a "chargeback". Tell them you got the email from AXS saying they're not offering refunds. Mention the false advertising (we have all the info & evidence in this thread that you can show them). I'm 100% sure that they should help you get the full refund.

    I'm not sure how it works with purchases made on Debit cards, but if you contact the banks, they should advise on what the procedure is from their side.

    It doesn't matter who's fault it is ... (I still think it's Quincy's) ...the bottom line is if a show has changed and you know what you primarily purchased will not be delivered, under Consumer Law you are entitled to a refund.
    I doubt it would be so easy as calling the credit card company. The promoters will claim that they do offer what they advertised ... with the addition of other material. If one asks for a chargeback and let’s assume they get it, what happens to the tickets?

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    Default Re: Quincy Jones and O2 Arena have changed the title of the show .Please DEMAND A REFUND !

    We've got picture evidence that they're not gonna deliver what they've promised. 3 Albums back-to-back Vs a string of 80s hits doesn't equal the same to me. You just need to be very good at explaining this.

    Once the chargeback is successful (and yes, it can take time) I'm assuming the ticket is null and void. Once the workers scan the barcode, they'll see that it is now an invalid ticket.

    Last year, Ed Sheeran cancelled all tickets that were purchased through Viagogo (due to their inflated booking fees....breaching consumer law). Fans had the option to re-purchase the same ticket from the venue Box Office on the day. Some fans didn't receive their refunds from Viagogo, so the credit card companies were dealing with the chargebacks and Viagogo were hit hard financially.
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    Default Re: Quincy Jones and O2 Arena have changed the title of the show .Please DEMAND A REFUND !

    Quote Originally Posted by mo_rizwan View Post
    We've got picture evidence that they're not gonna deliver what they've promised. 3 Albums back-to-back Vs a string of 80s hits doesn't equal the same to me. You just need to be very good at explaining this.

    Once the chargeback is successful (and yes, it can take time) I'm assuming the ticket is null and void. Once the workers scan the barcode, they'll see that it is now an invalid ticket.

    Last year, Ed Sheeran cancelled all tickets that were purchased through Viagogo (due to their inflated booking fees (breaching consumer law). Fans had the option to re-purchase the same ticket from the venue Box Office on the day. Some fans didn't receive their refunds from Viagogo, so the credit card companies were dealing with the chargebacks and Viagogo were hit hard financially.
    I see. The important distinction, however, in that case, as you say, is that Ed Sheeran (or his promoters in my understanding) cancelled those tickets. Ticket sellers are obliged to refund in such a case. In our case we have a dispute with the promoters rather than the ticket sellers. I wished to complain to the ticket selling companies about their responsibility on advertisements they host. I read the terms and conditions and they claim they (axs or ticketmaster) hold no responsibility about advertisements from third companies. I asked SENBLA for the set list and why it’s not known yet and have not received any answer 1 week now. Ticket sellers will claim that the promoter says the show will go on as advertised with some unrelated Quincy songs as “an encore”.

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    Default Re: Quincy Jones and O2 Arena have changed the title of the show .Please DEMAND A REFUND !

    This concert promotion change was discussed on the UK Radio 4 'You and Yours' consumer programme thus morning (R4 is the main BBC 'factual' nationwide radio station, and carries a lot of 'weight'). I'll try and find a link to add here, after the programme finishes broadcasting.

    A fan called Rosie Fowler emailed the programme and told them about the concert advertised change. The programme did an online interview with a music journalist called Laura Snapes from 'The Guardian', (which as we know supports 'Me Too' and has published multiple articles adverse to MJ).

    The programme interviewer asked Laura if this advertised change was just a case of the promoter being too specific in it's earlier advertising, eg 'If you go to Glastonbury', you won't necessarily know what music to expect'. Laura Snapes replied that no, this was different, because if you went to see your favourite band and they did not play your favourite songs, then that was just bad luck, but this (the concert promotion) was different and could be an issue to take to 'Trading Standards' (which is the system whereby consumers can complain about unfair trading in the UK.

    Apparently the programme put fan Rosie in direct touch with the promoters, and they offered her ' a trip backstage and a bottle of champagne'. (She bought the tickets as a birthday gift for her boyfriend). Rosie declined, and said they (the promoters) were missing the point.

    The programme interviewer then mentioned LN, and Laura Snapes commented that there were different groups eg fans who defended Michael Jackson, and other people who eg. just had his music on playlists for Gym sessions etc. Laura ended by saying: Michael's 'brand has been damaged, but is too big to fail'.


    (Also Laura Snapes, if you ever read this comment, Michael is INNOCENT. Please read the following thread for endless REAL evidence from court cases and interviews with significant people. : https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...bson-Safechuck

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    It's the second item discussed, after bank overdrafts:
    Episode titles: Battling high business rates; helping a hoarder; UK prawn production

    Starts at appx 7.12

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    Default Re: Quincy Jones and O2 Arena have changed the title of the show .Please DEMAND A REFUND !

    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    This concert promotion change was discussed on the UK Radio 4 'You and Yours' consumer programme thus morning (R4 is the main BBC 'factual' nationwide radio station, and carries a lot of 'weight'). I'll try and find a link to add here, after the programme finishes broadcasting.

    A fan called Rosie Fowler emailed the programme and told them about the concert advertised change. The programme did an online interview with a music journalist called Laura Snapes from 'The Guardian', (which as we know supports 'Me Too' and has published multiple articles adverse to MJ).

    The programme interviewer asked Laura if this advertised change was just a case of the promoter being too specific in it's earlier advertising, eg 'If you go to Glastonbury', you won't necessarily know what music to expect'. Laura Snapes replied that no, this was different, because if you went to see your favourite band and they did not play your favourite songs, then that was just bad luck, but this (the concert promotion) was different and could be an issue to take to 'Trading Standards' (which is the system whereby consumers can complain about unfair trading in the UK.

    Apparently the programme put fan Rosie in direct touch with the promoters, and they offered her ' a trip backstage and a bottle of champagne'. (She bought the tickets as a birthday gift for her boyfriend). Rosie declined, and said they (the promoters) were missing the point.

    The programme interviewer then mentioned LN, and Laura Snapes commented that there were different groups eg fans who defended Michael Jackson, and other people who eg. just had his music on playlists for Gym sessions etc. Laura ended by saying: Michael's 'brand has been damaged, but is too big to fail'.


    (Also Laura Snapes, if you ever read this comment, Michael is INNOCENT. Please read the following thread for endless REAL evidence from court cases and interviews with significant people. : https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...bson-Safechuck

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    It's the second item discussed, after bank overdrafts:
    Episode titles: Battling high business rates; helping a hoarder; UK prawn production

    (link awaiting programme 'release' shortly)
    I wouldn't waste your time trying to convince the idiots from the Guardian.

    But thanks for sharing this.

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    Default Re: Quincy Jones and O2 Arena have changed the title of the show .Please DEMAND A REFUND !

    Did the people get their money back?



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    From a what I understand people have not gotten their money back. It’s a crazy situation of false advertisement and ridiculous excuses. I wonder what will happen Sunday night. I plan to be there.

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    just read the comments...

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    3 albums plus all those encore songs in 95 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costas View Post
    From a what I understand people have not gotten their money back. It’s a crazy situation of false advertisement and ridiculous excuses. I wonder what will happen Sunday night. I plan to be there.
    I'm wondering if there will be any other special guests? The list of names does not seem to have been updated?

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    Doesnt look good, lots of empty seats

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    I’m there now and so far he has played only MJ songs including: Billie Jean, WBSS, Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough and many others. I think Q has reconsidered but we’ll see in the second half...
    "Who's bad? You're telling me, you're doing wrong, gonna lock you up for far too long, you're doing wrong, you're doing wrong, you're doing wrong brother, who's bad? YA KNOW, YA KNOW IT, YA KNOW, YA KNOW IT OOOH, you're doing wrong, ya know, ya know it, ya know, ya know it, you're doing wrong, gonna watch yo mouth boy, just watch yo mouth boy, that's your brother, that's your mouther, that's YO SISTER, asked me... if you're doing wrong?

    SHHHHHHHHH AH!" - Mike's bad, that's who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShineGloveShine View Post
    I’m there now and so far he has played only MJ songs including: Billie Jean, WBSS, Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough and many others. I think Q has reconsidered but we’ll see in the second half...
    And does the audience seem to like it? Are there lots of empty seats?

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    I thought it was a great concert. Most of the people around me including myself were up dancing!

    He played only 3 or 4 songs that weren’t Michael’s at the end. Q came out at the end and said that he thought we’d be mad and he said he’d never want to distance himself from Michael, he just wanted to play some other songs too.

    I thought it was a great concert, 80% of it was Michael and I love Q’s stuff generally so I was happy. One of the singers kept fumbling the words to MJ’s songs though... but wow hearing MJ’s songs with a full orchestra and perfect arrangements is something.

    Hearing Liberian Girl live was something. Magnificent.

    Big Rod Temperton fan as well. It was poignant to see his widow there and even Bob Geldof was in the audience and got on the stage!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShineGloveShine View Post
    I thought it was a great concert. Most of the people around me including myself were up dancing!

    He played only 3 or 4 songs that weren’t Michael’s at the end. Q came out at the end and said that he thought we’d be mad and he said he’d never want to distance himself from Michael, he just wanted to play some other songs too.

    I thought it was a great concert, 80% of it was Michael and I love Q’s stuff generally so I was happy. One of the singers kept fumbling the words to MJ’s songs though... but wow hearing MJ’s songs with a full orchestra and perfect arrangements is something.

    Hearing Liberian Girl live was something. Magnificent.

    Big Rod Temperton fan as well. It was poignant to see his widow there and even Bob Geldof was in the audience and got on the stage!

    Quincy tried distancing himself from Michael, thus the name change of the concert. However, he didn’t expect or anticipate the reaction from the fans. That’s the only reason that he decided to play as much Michael music as he did at this concert. IF he could have gotten away with distancing himself, he would have.

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