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    Default Re: MSG 30th 2001: Dancing Machine?

    The curly hair makes him look much younger, and This Is It proved that. There were parts of This Is It where he looked similar to how he looked in the Dangerous/HIStory era

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    I think it had to do with the strange hair style at MSG.
    I donot think it was the hair. he has had that kind of short hair even at the MTV in 1995 show and even in the past. He would not have looked right with his brothers with long straight hair. He just did not look himself at the show. I LOVE MJ's smile and his eyes but he did not appear right. I could tell he had a botox shot above his lip which was reddish and he could not smile wide for months but it finally wore off which botox shots do (they make your face look stiff which I do not like about botox around certain areas).
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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    The curly hair makes him look much younger, and This Is It proved that. There were parts of This Is It where he looked similar to how he looked in the Dangerous/HIStory era
    He looks great with curly permed hair long or short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrell View Post
    I donot think it was the hair. he has had that kind of short hair even at the MTV in 1995 show and even in the past.
    Nah. The mid 90s short hair looked way different. The curly version (MTV awards) gave him a nice youthful fresh look.

    The Invincible days short hair looked like some exploded Liza Minelli kind of old lady hair accident.

    Of course the hair was just one factor (next to him not being able to smile and not being spot on with moves etc).

    But I wouldn't even say he looked "old" at MSG. Just out of it on several levels...
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    I love Michael with curly hair. i don't know if that's because i love curly hair in general or i just love him with curls. his long locks in the late 80's is my favorite. he looked so gorgeous. i don't know. i guess curls just suited mike. he was a doll baby angel. :P



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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    The curly hair makes him look much younger, and This Is It proved that. There were parts of This Is It where he looked similar to how he looked in the Dangerous/HIStory era
    Yeah. it looked like he was going back to his 90's roots. ^_^ :P



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    I honestly don't know what the heck Michael was doing either. X"D he was all over the place. maybe he was just tired or he was very excited to be there up on stage. he was very healthy for his age then and before he pass. ^_^



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    About his curly hair of the ‘This Is It’ era, it was actually his fans who convinced him to bring his curls back for those shows.

    During that period of his comeback, MJ was increasingly getting signs from them that they wanted from him to perform with his characteristic curly hair.

    Some fans even proceeded to make the ‘Curls For My Girls’ T-shirt & they gave it to him as a gift.

    MJ decided to satisfy them, so he not only made his hair curly for the upcoming shows, but also he even wore that T-shirt during some parts of the rehearsals.

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    Default Re: MSG 30th 2001: Dancing Machine?

    My least favorite dancing machine performance

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    Hahahaha. Michael did his best. i think he was just tired or the stage was too small. they needed a bigger stage that stage were crowded.



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    The only good thing from those two MSG shows was the big enthusiasm & energy that came from the audience itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    I wonder why MJ agreed to do a performance with his brothers, because he would always avoid a Jackson's reunion like the plague.
    It had to do with him wanting a positive image for his comeback.

    MJ, at that particular time of his comeback, had no option but to show to the world that he was no longer that strange, bizarre man who was alienated even from his own family.

    That was the reason why he decided to perform with his brothers on stage at the MSG, but also to call his parents & the rest of his other siblings to attend the shows sitting on special VIP seats (for the sake of an image of oneness that would also help his future career).

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    Hahahaha. Michael did his best. i think he was just tired or the stage was too small. they needed a bigger stage that stage were crowded.
    His tiredness, dizziness, blankness of his expression, etc, were all a result of him being fully drugged up right before those two MSG shows.

    We also have reliable accounts which confirm that.

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    What many people don't know is that the TV appearance was edited with new recorded vocals in it's J5 part.
    You can clearly hear that by comparing both amateur shows to the tv one.
    Also if you are familar with different types of microphones you can just hear that the mic-quality of MJs vocals changes sometimes in the tv version.
    When you hear dubbed vocals you clearly hear that the mic sounds so clear like a studio mic. Though, dancing machine was not dubbed on the tv airing.
    I always liked the show for some reason but i've never seen so much mistakes done in a show (see the amateur recording).
    Even the Moonwalk didn't work and they completely faked it on tv. So many mistakes there.. i think one reason it had so many mistakes was the position of the band.
    From experience i can say band and singer/artist/dancer need to keep eye-connection... but the band on the MSG 2001 shows was not visible for MJ and MJ was probably only visible for them on a screen. BIG MISTAKE.

    I made a thread about this ages ago.. but cannot find it anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    His tiredness, dizziness, blankness of his expression, etc, were all a result of him being fully drugged up right before those two MSG shows. We also have reliable accounts which confirm that.
    He was drugged on what?



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    He was drugged on what?
    On Demerol, for example, which falls into the category of the opioid drugs.

    Here is what David Gest revealed:

    “… He [MJ] had promised to be in the audience for the first part of the show, which began at 8pm, to watch other artists pay tribute to him, but 8pm came and went and no Michael. It turned 8.15, still no Michael. By 8.20 I was going crazy… I sent an assistant to his hotel room and he was in bed. The assistant called me to say he was unconscious and I said just get him up, get him here. He got him up and Michael told him he’d taken Demerol, a painkiller… I screamed at him to get to the stadium, whatever state he was in. He turned up looking totally off his head … (David Gest, The Mail On Sunday)

    David Gest was a long-time, close friend of MJ, but also the one who staged those two MSG shows in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    On Demerol, for example, which falls into the category of the opioid drugs.

    Here is what David Gest revealed:

    “… He [MJ] had promised to be in the audience for the first part of the show, which began at 8pm, to watch other artists pay tribute to him, but 8pm came and went and no Michael. It turned 8.15, still no Michael. By 8.20 I was going crazy… I sent an assistant to his hotel room and he was in bed. The assistant called me to say he was unconscious and I said just get him up, get him here. He got him up and Michael told him he’d taken Demerol, a painkiller… I screamed at him to get to the stadium, whatever state he was in. He turned up looking totally off his head … (David Gest, The Mail On Sunday)

    David Gest was a long-time, close friend of MJ, but also the one who staged those two MSG shows in 2001.
    I knew it was something. These types of painkillers do each person different. I had surgery this year and had to take hydrocodone which I hate to take and even bare pain not to take unless it is really bad. just one pill makes me sleepy all day. Tremadol makes my mom talk silly after using it for two days for pain. So I can see what David is saying can be true. even walking with Liz, MJ did not seem to be himself. His eyes were sleepy.
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