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    Since we now have a constant influx of random articles being posted in this forum, I have made this thread to keep them in one designated area.

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    If an article is mildly interesting, but not actual news or not worthy of much discussion, please post it in this thread. Some examples are: non-mainstream media opinion pieces, general reports on Michael related events, articles quoting people who were close to Michael (which don't offer anything new or especially interesting), statistical information or updates regarding sales, streaming figures, previous projects by The Estate, etc.

    If an article is news or important/interesting information worthy of in-depth discussion, it warrants its own thread. Examples include: news about events relating to Michael - announcements/cancellations/removals/records being broken,
    new projects relating to Michael - music, documentaries, films, theatrical shows, books, games, etc., positive mainstream media opinion pieces/reports on commemoration events, new interviews with members of The Estate or the Jackson family (regarding Michael or The Estate), new interviews with people who were close to Michael which offer previously unreleased information. Make sure to check your article/information doesn't already have a related thread before starting a new one.

    Please help to keep this forum free of clutter by using your best judgement when deciding if an article really needs its own thread. Usually they do not.

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    Do not post tabloid junk.
    It will be deleted. This means articles featuring derogatory rubbish regarding Michael, fake news, or negative gossip. This is a fan forum. Not a place to give free promotion to lies and hatred.

    This thread is for articles only. Other miscellaneous Michael content (videos, quotes, etc) belongs in the Miscellaneous Michael J. Jackson thread.

    Unless it is regarding Michael, articles about Michael's children or any other member of the Jackson family do not belong in this thread or this part of the forum. Please post in the appropriate thread in the 2300 Jackson St section. Do not post tabloid articles about the children.

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    Thank you.
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    Okay. but i have trouble with this stuff. if i put it in the wrong trend please just move or delete because i just don't know. it's very confusing. i will never post lies or bad things about Michael. but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's real or not. i know about Michael but you what i'm saying?



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    Okay. but i have trouble with this stuff. if i put it in the wrong trend please just move or delete because i just don't know. it's very confusing. i will never post lies or bad things about Michael. but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's real or not. i know about Michael but you what i'm saying?
    Just use your best judgement, that's all I ask. I'm not expecting perfection, this is just to avoid cluttering the forum with all these articles that don't need their own threads. Basically, news or really interesting stuff can have its own thread. Everything else can go in here.


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    Post The King of Pop dressed as a King!

    Let’s go back in time in December 2002! Michael Jackson is currently visiting Florida in search of a new property and his Real Estate agent invites him for Dinner and the King of Pop accepted!

    The following story is unreal but so Michael!

    It’s not every night the King of Pop drops by for dinner, asks for KFC and Domino’s and dons a golden crown in your front room.

    But for shocked couple Sue and Darron Goldman – that’s exactly what happened.
    During one evening in December 2002, music legend Michael Jackson landed on the couple’s doorstep.

    The King of Pop was visiting Florida in search of a new property and after an afternoon viewing mansions near Palm Beach, his real estate agent offered to take him to dinner.

    Michael agreed but insisted on avoiding restaurants or public places, so the agent suggested something a bit more intimate.

    ‘Our friend called and said, ”I’m with Michael Jackson, can we come over for dinner?” explained Sue, 55, who lives in Jupiter, Florida with husband Darron, 58.


    ‘I was like ”What!” He called totally out of the blue and I thought he was joking, then an hour later the King of Pop was on my doorstep.
    ‘It was honestly the most surreal evening I’ve ever experienced, we still laugh about it today.’

    Sue says she asked the friend what she should cook for Jackson, who was traveling with his two children Prince, then five, and Paris, aged four.

    He told me that Michael wanted KFC and Domino’s Pizza,’ she said.

    ‘I raced round to the KFC drive-through and picked up a large order of regular and extra-crispy chicken, then I grabbed some pizzas.

    ‘Michael had also asked for orange-crush soda, apparently he was a big fan of that.’

    Sue says Jackson arrived at 5pm with the real estate agent, the star’s children and an unknown friend of the singer.

    ‘I ran out front to greet them,’ Sue said. ‘Michael was really nice and said how much he loved our house.

    ‘Once inside he asked for a tour so I took him upstairs. We then sat in the lounge and I went into the kitchen to dish out the food.

    ‘Michael was great fun, he seemed like a normal guy. He said he knew the Bee Gees who lived in Florida, it was light conversation.

    ‘He seemed like a hands on father as well, he made sure both his children ate something.’

    Sue and Darron had a female friend staying with them at the time with her young daughter.

    ‘There was six adults and five kids, including our two aged four and two, it was very intimate,’ Sue said.

    After dinner everyone moved outside on to the dock behind the family’s house to watch the sunset.

    But to really spice things up the couple, who run a costume supply company, had asked Jackson if he and the children wanted to try some costumes on after dinner.

    ‘They excitedly said yes, Prince wanted to be a superhero and Paris wanted to be Spiderman which I thought was strange for a girl,’ recalls Sue. ‘Then Michael said, ”I want to be King”.

    Sue continued: ‘My husband and I had a good laugh. We couldn’t believe this was happening, the King of Pop wanted to dress up like a king, it was just too surreal.

    ‘Darron went over to the store and picked up all the outfits.’

    After dinner Jackson expressed interest in buying some costumes, so Darron took the men into his office to talk business.

    Then the group decided it was time to dress-up.

    ‘The real estate guy was a pimp, my husband was Obi-Wan Kenobi from Star Wars, Michael’s friend was a knight and Michael was a king,’ said Sue.
    ‘Michael helped the children put their costumes on and I helped him with his regal gown.

    ‘They all absolutely loved it, especially Paris as Spiderman.

    ‘I got the sense Michael was really into that kind of stuff, he loved to dress up and really played the part.’

    Sue took a few happy snaps of the evening including a group picture in her husband’s office.

    Secretive Jackson stopped short of letting her include his children in the photo, however – at that point the kids were still a guarded secret.
    In the shot a huge blue dragon – a prop from the couple’s costume firm – towers above the group in the background.

    Michael sat in an old wooden ornate chair – the perfect throne for a King of Pop – and is seen clutching a Christmas card given to him by Sue.
    She said: ‘It had a picture of my family on the front, he loved it and kept hold of it all night.

    ‘Michael thanked us for a wonderful evening and even invited us over to Neverland.’

    Then everyone left the house just before midnight.

    Bizarrely Michael Jackson walked out the door still wearing the crown and king’s gown.

    ‘He and the kids loved the outfits so much that we said they could keep them,’ said Sue.

    Sue says Paris left behind a little red sweater, seen here being held by Sue and Darron’s daughter Alexandra, an 18-year-old medical student and aspiring actress.

    She added: ‘It was a great night and definitely one we won’t forget in a hurry.’

    The Goldmans said they don’t wish to comment on the controversy surrounding the recent HBO documentary Leaving Neverland.

    They instead choose to remember Michael Jackson for the fun-filled father he was during his visit to their home.

    ‘It was a real fun day for all. We like to just look back and smile,’ said Darron.

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    https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/m...akamai-rum=off

    'Memorable Moment' With Michael Jackson, As Remembered By Manish Malhotra
    "Not only did he wear the outfit, he also thanked me on stage at the Bollywood Movie Awards," wrote Manish Malhotra


    New Delhi:
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    Manish Malhotra shared a throwback pic as a tribute to Michael Jackson
    He accompanied his post with an emotional note
    Michael Jackson died in the year 2009 at his home in Los Angeles


    Fashion designer Manish Malhotra found a spot on Friday's list of trends after he shared a memorable picture of himself with Michael Jackson as a tribute for the King of Pop (and dance) three days after his 10th death anniversary. Michael Jackson, iconic hitmaker and lord of the dance, died on June 25 in the year 2009 at his home in Los Angeles. In his "10 years without MJ" tribute post, Manish Malhotra recalled how Michael Jackson not only wore a sherwani, trousers and a shawl with Indian embrodiery art designed by him at the Bollywood Movie Awards in 1999 but also thanked him for the outfit on stage. Michael Jackson won a Humanitarian Award that night.




    Sharing the memorable most with his Instafam, Manish Malhotra wrote: "Years ago before I had launched Manish Malhotra Label, I had the honour of meeting the great Michael Jackson... I had designed a smart cut sherwani with trousers and a shawl with Indian embrodiery art... Not only did he wear the outfit, he also thanked me on stage at the Famous #BollywoodAwards USA, which became a memorable moment for me. #tributetomj #10yearswithoutmj." Take a look:



    Commenting on his post, actor Tiger Shroff, who recently paid tribute to Michael Jackson on his 10th death anniversary with a video, wrote: "This is amazing... I am so jealous... Fantastic." The 29-year-old actor, known for his dance moves, posted a video of him dancing, not to an MJ hit but to a rather more unexpected pick - Ranveer Shingh's Khalibali from "Padmaavat," as a tribute to the dance legend.
    Check it out




    Michael Jackson died in 2009. His death and legacy remain controversial and the controversy intensified some months ago after the release of US documentary Leaving Neverland, which detailed the child sexual abuse allegations that MJ denied his entire life. Several platforms have since blacked out Michael Jackson's music.


    Michael Jackson's hits such as Thriller, Beat It, Hold My Hand and Billie Jean still remain close to his fans' hearts.
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    https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/kil...203255576/amp/

    ‘Killing Michael Jackson’ Producers Talk About Revisiting the Case 10 Years On
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    June 28, 2019 6:22AM PDT
    The provocatively titled show “Killing Michael Jackson” pieces together the investigation into the pop superstar’s death a decade later and examines his relationship with his personal physician, Conrad Murray, who was imprisoned for involuntary manslaughter in 2011. U.K. producers Zig Zag secured access to case files and the audio recording of a police interview with Murray for their one-off documentary.
    The starting point for the project was a meeting between Zig Zag’s founder, Danny Fenton, and Los Angeles police detective Orlando Martinez, who helped get two other detectives who worked on the case, Dan Myers and Scott Smith, on board. The officers’ involvement was crucial to getting access to the primary source material. “Orlando is still active in the LAPD and got the consent of the commissioner of the LAPD,” Fenton says. “He was able to go into the lockup and bring out all of the evidence that has been gathering dust for the last 10 years and represent it to us on camera.”

    With the LAPD’s consent, the producers then took the material to an undisclosed site, where the detectives reconstructed the unfolding of the investigation. “We get an understanding of how the police detectives piece together the case,” says Matt Graff, Zig Zag’s managing director. “It’s really getting that firsthand account that is so fascinating.”
    Fenton says that “a bone of contention is why did Conrad Murray only get charged for manslaughter when, according to the three detectives, they feel they had a case for second-degree murder, which would have led to a longer prison sentence?” He adds: “Part of the theory behind that is that, because they had had a number of high-profile cases such as O.J. [Simpson] where it hadn’t ended in a positive outcome for the LAPD, they wanted to get a quick result. The district attorney wanted a quick result.”
    The producers set out to examine the co-dependent relationship between Jackson and his doctor. Murray’s team offered to have his lawyer participate in the documentary, but Murray declined to take part himself. A crucial element of the documentary is the audio recording of the police interview with Murray days after Jackson died on June 25, 2009.

    “About 11 minutes of that interview were heard in court, but the detectives and LAPD obviously have access to the full transcript,” Fenton said. “It was in that that Murray gave himself away as doing things that didn’t sit right with the detectives – and key bits of evidence such as Murray’s doctor’s bag that contained all the drugs that the police had not found. And he ended up telling the police about because he presumed they would have [already] found it.”
    The film tackles a different chapter of the Jackson story from that covered in the recent Channel 4 and HBO film “Leaving Neverland,” which detailed the singer’s alleged sexual abuse of two boys. Kew Media sold the two-part film widely internationally.
    “Leaving Neverland” stoked strong feelings among both fans and detractors of Jackson, and has made channels nervous about other Jackson projects, Fenton says. “Killing Michael Jackson” was originally destined for ITV, Britain’s biggest commercial broadcaster, but it backed out. Discovery bought the Zig Zag film for the U.K. as well as Italy, Germany and the Nordics. Polsat has acquired it for Poland, TVNZ for Belgium, and Medialaan for Belgium. U.S. rights are still on the table.
    “This film does not judge Jackson on his music, his lifestyle choices, on the allegations,” Graff says. “This film is a detective story about the murder investigation around a superstar. There is a huge fascination, and there will continue to be with Jackson.”

    For anyone interested in the work, life, and legacy of Jackson, there is one underlying message in the film. “You realize he could still be alive – whether to face justice or continue his career,” Fenton says.
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    I also watched this documentary and brought tears to my eyes when I heard the words, this is not a man that should have died. The parts of the documentary in Michael's bedroom made me feel like I was invading Michael's privacy and wished these parts were left out, does anyone else think the same, or is it just me being to sensitive?

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    http://www.arabnews.com/node/1517811/lifestyle


    Wanted dead or alive: Despite ‘Leaving Neverland,’ Michael Jackson’s star seems undiminished in the Middle East

    DUBAI: This week marked 10 years since the death of Michael Jackson. As Saudi Arabia prepares to welcome “Thriller Live,” an international tribute show dedicated to the late King of Pop, which toured the UAE earlier this year, it seems Jackson’s stardom — at least in the Middle East — is not fading. Many fans can’t believe it has already been 10 years since the passing of this megastar; a man who’d spent pretty much his entire life in the spotlight, in all senses; a man who wrote and sang some of the finest pop songs ever, and who became the first (and so far the only) pop star to enter the Dance Hall of Fame.

    His undeniable talent was otherworldly. As was Jackson himself. That was thanks in part to his odd mannerisms — his air of childhood innocence, his tremulous speaking voice — and in part the fact that his skin color and appearance changed so markedly throughout his life.

    As a performer and musician, Jackson was idolized around the world. He became an enormous part of people’s lives — and arguably the most recognizable person in history, despite all the surgery.

    He was also, it is alleged, a serial pedophile.

    Those allegations date back. In 1993, Evan Chandler accused Jackson of sexually abusing his 13-year-old son Jordan. In January 1994, Jackson reportedly reached a financial settlement of $23 million with the Chandlers and in September that year the criminal investigation was closed.

    In the early 2000s, similar allegations were made. This time, the case went to trial and Jackson was found not guilty in 2005. Former child actor Macaulay Culkin, star of the “Home Alone” films and a frequent visitor to Jackson’s Neverland ranch (along with several other young boys), testified in support of the pop singer at that trial. As did another of Jackson’s former child friends, Wade Robson.

    Robson is one of two men featured in the documentary, “Leaving Neverland,” released earlier this year. Along with James Safechuck (who, when he was younger, also told investigators that he had not been sexually abused by Jackson), Robson now alleges that Jackson did sexually abuse him as a child, and provides graphic descriptions of the acts they engaged in.

    The allegations made in the documentary have been rebuffed by Jackson’s estate, which is suing HBO (which screened the documentary in the US) for $100 million. Both Safechuck and Robson are currently appealing against judgments in their own lawsuits against Jackson, which were dismissed in 2017.

    “Leaving Neverland” is perhaps the strongest blow yet to Jackson’s legacy. But it has also served as a rallying point for his supporters, who fervently refuse to believe their idol could have been guilty of child abuse.

    Jackson has a huge fanbase in the Middle East. For many, he was the first superstar they heard on heavy rotation in the region, as radio only really took hold in the Gulf in the 1980s. As Saudi Arabian journalist and artist Rym Ghazal explained to Arab News: “I don’t think MJ knew just how much his music shaped a whole generation of Arabs — just how many fans he had here and just how devoted they remained throughout his ordeals. We might not have heard of The Beatles or Elvis Presley, but we sure knew Michael Jackson.”

    Ghazal is, she admits, a huge fan. She even named one of her childhood pets MJ.

    “His music and his songs remain timeless,” she says. “He truly put his heart into each song and they touched on universal issues that I could identify with. He sang for the world, for the environment and about healing and kindness at a time when no one even gave nature a second thought. He also sang about accepting others as they are and topics that hit a chord with the public. He was ahead of his time and an enigma.”

    Regarding “Leaving Neverland,” she says she has “doubts about its validity” because of the element of “massive financial compensation sought” and because it is “one-sided.” But she also makes a point that many others have echoed: That art should be assessed separately to its maker.

    “Regardless of whatever happened in Michael Jackson’s personal life, that doesn’t take away the powerful messages and the beautiful music he created,” she says.

    Others also say that Jackson’s personal life should not affect appreciation of his music. Ahmed Haram, a student at the American University of Sharjah, counts Jackson among his “top artists, very talented,” and says the documentary’s allegations “just made me lose a little respect for him, that’s all.”

    Dubai-based Saudi Arabian radio host Hassan Dennaoui (aka Big Hass) says he does not believe the allegations against Jackson, and suspects there may be a conspiracy behind them.

    “MJ was a pioneer, a music genius, an entertainer at heart, with the most humble intentions to make people happy and just dance. In my opinion his legacy will prevail, even with all the ridiculous allegations that targeted him when he was still alive and recently with the lame excuse of a documentary,” he says. “The world is drenched in the will to cause harm regardless of consequences. Personal interests, money and bigger agendas are brought forward and prioritized over the reputation of artists such as MJ. My convictions about him have never changed: the artist and the human being he was show a fragile — sometimes misunderstood — individual who was put into stardom too early but succeeded.

    “He was also planning to convert to Islam, which I am sure many parties in power wouldn’t want to happen, as they knew MJ’s positive influence,” he continues. “Or else they wouldn’t have tried to sabotage his reputation and discredit his entire career.”

    Others suggest that Jackson’s own well-documented troubled childhood could lie at the root of the allegations against the star. “He was a talented musician who didn’t have a chance at a normal, healthy life,” says Emirati banker Mohammed Murashi. “I don’t know if the allegations against him are true, and if they are it’s inexcusable, but I’m certain the abuse he supposedly faced and unusual life left him with numerous issues, and could have contributed to his lack of social norms.”

    Mawaddah, a young lady from Jeddah, says that “Leaving Neverland” has not affected her opinion of Jackson’s music, but that it has made her relationship with the singer more complicated.

    “I am still a fan of his music. Before, I liked him as a person too. I thought he was a nice, very liberated guy. And then I watched the documentary,” she tells Arab News. “Right now, every time I go to my playlist on my phone or my computer, I just get that image in my head. I still like his music, but I just leave, most of the time.”

    In Dubai, “Leaving Neverland” was shown at Cinema Akil. There were plenty opposed to the film being shown. Journalist William Mullally, who moderated a panel discussion that followed one of the screenings, tells Arab News there were “a lot of people who were very against it being shown in the first place, and a lot of people who felt it needed to be shown.” The cinema and Mullally himself received “hundreds of messages” from people saying that the film should not be screened. “It really did feel like the pressure was on in order to downplay any accusations.”

    He continues: “At the discussion itself, it felt like a lot of the room was pro-Michael Jackson, and two of the four panelists were very skeptical of the allegations and pushed back very hard against anything the film had to say.”

    The arguments in support of Jackson in the room that night, Mullally says, felt very much like “the kitchen-sink defense,” with audience members claiming that the documentary was suspect because it failed to mention that one of the accusers had dated Jackson’s niece when he was younger. Others said there just wasn’t enough proof presented for them to believe that Jackson was a pedophile.

    “But when they were questioned on what exactly they would require in terms of proof, it got a bit hazy,” says Mullally. “It did seem like there was some kind of dissonance in their ability to talk about allegations in general, and the way that predators operate in general, and then apply that same logic to the Michael Jackson story.”


    Mullally understands that impulse though, even if he doesn’t share it. “I grew up as a Michael Jackson fan myself. And for a long time I was skeptical of these allegations when they were coming out in the Nineties and the 2000s. I think it just hurts harder with Michael Jackson. He means so much to us. He’s been a part of the best moments of our lives: playing at our weddings, becoming closer to our family members, and discovering ourselves through music. And I think because of that — because he feels almost like a member of the family — people have a knee-jerk reaction to defend him as if he is a member of the family,” he says. “They don’t want to let Michael go.”

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    Default Steven Tyler Makes Stunning Michael Jackson Revelation

    It’s a click bait article but not a negative one. I guess we can put Steve Tyler as an MJ supporter after LN? If the mods feel this didn’t deserve it’s own thread - please move it to wherever you feel it should go.

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    https://www.alternativenation.net/st...on-revelation/


    With Michael Jackson in the news again after the ‘Leaving Neverland’ HBO film, many have wondered about rockers’ connections to him. Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler previously attended the Michael Jackson ONE show at Mandalay Bay with his girlfriend and other friends.

    Tyler was escorted backstage for a private meet and greet with the cast of ONE after the show, and he took many photos, complimenting the show and its performers. He said that the show was “Amazing…beyond belief.” He also noted that the electrifying act “Billie Jean” was his favorite moment in show, via MJVibe

    Around the time Aerosmith collaborated with Run-DMC, a Michael Jackson collaboration as possible.

    “We met Michael Jackson two times. And people probably don’t know this, but Run-DMC was going to make us a record with Michael Jackson,” Daryl McDaniels revealed to Yahoo. “And if you ask me the reason why it never happened, the joke is Run-D.M.C. was too busy to make a record with Michael.

    He wanted to record with us, but [our third album] Raising Hell was killing; ‘My Adidas’ had us running around, getting the endorsement deal; and [the Aerosmith collaboration] ‘Walk This Way’ just took us to another stratosphere. But the two times that we met with Michael, we sat down and we talked.”
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    I can not understand why everyone can't see the lies that are being said, I watched LN and within the first 10 mins I could tell it was all lies, I didn't watch it for any other reason but to make sure once and for all that it was all made up and I was proven right. I'm not just saying that because I don't want to believe that Michael would do these things, I say it because I know first hand what a sexual abused victim behaves like and it certainly wasn't these two. There must be a reason why people are quick to believe it but I can't see what it is. If this is in the wrong place for this msg then I apologise, I'm new to this site and not sure how it works

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    Default Michael Jackson’s Legacy Lives On After ‘Leaving Neverland’ Controversy

    *The initial wave of criticism following the release of the “Leaving Neverland” documentary did very little to tarnish the legacy of the King of Pop.

    The HBO doc portrayed Michael Jackson as a child molester, and the negative publicity prompted Britain’s Channel 4 radio stations in Canada to stop playing his music while the producers of “The Simpsons” removed an episode that featured Jackson’s voice. ABC News notes “that’s been the most visible extent of the backlash.”

    The outlet also writes that, “There’s been no rescinding honors like has happened to Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, or mass movements to stop playing Jackson’s music, as R&B singer R. Kelly has faced.”

    “He still commands prices compared to most any other celebrity,” said Darren Julien, president and CEO of the Culver City, California-based Julien’s Auctions.

    “He’s the only celebrity where we would have lines of people to get in whenever we had stuff of his to auction,” he continued. “There’s only one person that compares to Marilyn Monroe in collectability, and that is Michael Jackson.”

    Billboard senior editor Gail Mitchell said she and several of her colleagues believe Jackson’s legacy will withstand the “Leaving Neverland” controversy.

    “There was an aura about him,” Mitchell said of Jackson. “He had an energy in terms of his talent and the dancing, and I still think that aura still exists to a point. I know it’s been tarnished, but I think overall that there is no denying what he brought to the table.”

    Jackson died at age 50 from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol on June 25, 2009. Tuesday marks the 10th anniversary of his death. Despite the disturbing allegations made in the documentary, Jackson’s nephew said his legacy will never be destroyed by a lie.

    “No lie can destroy what was given to us as a blessing from God, and that’s what my uncle was,” said Sigmund “Siggy” Jackson, son of Jackson’s eldest brother, Jackie Jackson. “You can never destroy his legacy with a petty lie. He will be here. And even after God calls us home, his legacy will live on and never be torn down.”

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    Post Vincent Paterson’s Choreographer for Michael Jackson and Madonna Interview by MJForever

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    I can’t forget that impact that I first got when I watched Michael Jackson’s short film “Thriller”. There was enough impact to change the world. I felt “Something is going to happen. Something that I have never seen before.” In the same era, Madonna, the absolute queen who conquered the world with a pair of high heels, debuted into stardom. One after another never before seen music revolutions were constantly occurring in the world which led to people having a lot of iconic moves engraved into their minds. It was Vincent Paterson, that I was able to interview, who was responsible for many of the iconic Michael Jackson and Madonna’s enthusiastic movements as he created behind the scenes as a director and choreographer. As if they met Vincent like fate, the world started to go to an unpredictable future. Vincent, when you worked with Michael Jackson and Madonna, there must have been some kind of magic going on in their performances to move my heart the way it did. I haven’t been able to have my heart be moved as much since then. What kind of spell did you cast on us?

    —You joined “Thriller” as an assistant choreographer. What do you think are the reasons why it is loved all over the world, even now?

    “First of all, it’s a crazy, fantasy zombie dance. It was a unique dance that anyone can feel like dancing to and it was easy enough for people to remember the moves. So, it is still loved all around the world. Also, the fact that it wasn’t just a music video but also a short film where we can enjoy the story was another reason. Michael loved films and ‘Thriller’ was inspired by the film ‘An American Werewolf in London’. Because a music video channel called MTV was born at that time, people around the world were surprised to see ‘Thriller’. They thought ‘What is this? What is happening?’ when they saw the unpredictable story and the overwhelming performance.”

    –Your style of choreography is very iconic and never stops attracting viewers. For example, I liked the Zero Gravity movement from “Smooth Criminal”. How on Earth do you create them?

    “Sometimes, it just comes out of my crazy brain (laughs). Let me tell you the story of when Michael gave me a cassette that had ‘Smooth Criminal’ in it. He said ‘Listen to the music and let the music tell you what it wants to be.’ I put a headset on and listened to it many, many, many times. I began to see movement in shapes, such as a rectangle, a circle, or a spiral, and then I started to move to the music. That’s how the choreography was born. On the other hand, for Zero Gravity, I got inspired from a dance performance piece I had seen years before. The dancers came out with skis on and started leaning. This visual came into my head when I was creating the choreography for Smooth Criminal and I knew Michael would love it. Sometimes, I get inspirations from a play, a novel, or art, like the example I just cited. And other times, choreography comes out of my brain just by listening to the music. There are various ways to create choreography but the important thing is how I can be honest to the music.”

    –The dance where Madonna grabbed her crotch in “Express Yourself” was especially surprising (laughs).

    “This is how that happened. When we were filming ’Express Yourself’, Madonna asked me ‘What should I do with my hand on this last part?’ I answered ‘Why don’t you grab your balls because you have bigger balls than most men?’ (laughs). I taught her many ways to appear stronger, be more beautiful, and act more sophisticated. I even taught her how to smoke a cigarette and how to crawl on the floor. Interestingly, superstars don’t always know how to make themselves move a certain way for the public. Even Michael needed guidance. That’s why smart performers hire a choreographer. When we filmed ‘Black or White’, the director had an idea of having Michael stand in front of gray walls. Michael didn’t really like the idea. So, he asked me ‘Vincent, what do you think?’ and I said ‘Let’s express the inclusion of race, which is the theme of this song, by using dances from around the world.’ And I created the choreography which included Balinese, Cossack, and African dances. Michael’s dance vocabulary was mostly what he knew from his Motown days, including tap. When he began making his short films, he opened himself up to learning a variety of styles. From this education, as well as his working out with street dancers in LA, he evolved his own style.”

    –You directed Madonna’s Blond Ambition Tour, one of your many renowned pieces of work. That was the first time Madonna or any other woman in the media dared to be overtly sexual on stage. At that time, Madonna’s sexual performances were the newest popular topic to talk about. Was it a message trying to convey “Women, be strong!”?

    “Perhaps that was part of it. Madonna likes to shock people. She likes to keep people on their toes, never knowing what her next incarnation will be. During the Blond Ambition Tour, she wanted to say that men and women should be equal. In this tour, I tried to stage “Like A Virgin” on a big bed. I said to her, ‘I want you to lie on the bed. And wouldn’t it be interesting if two men were there as part of the headboard of the bed?’ Then, she said ‘I also have come up with a great idea!’ and brought out cone bras. Jean-Paul Gaultier had made for her, but she never used them for anything yet. I thought that I would have the male dancers wear them, too. In this show, I had women wear men’s clothing and sometimes dressed men with a feminine tip. That’s because sometimes women have men’s feelings or attributes and vice versa. The Blond Ambition Tour was making a statement that sometimes there is a thin line that separates male and female attributes, making the classification of sex ambiguous. Also, it was important for us not to force people to watch the scene by shouting ‘Look at this!’ but to make people smile in spite of themselves by using humor especially when expressing sexuality. Madonna bloomed as a woman who incorporated sexuality into her artistry. At that point in time, women weren’t as open as men in expressing their sexuality in public and still taken seriously as artists. But Madonna could and did.”

    –It is said that you put theater, fashion, and art to the direction for this tour and after the world realized this is how a pop concert should be, it changed the pop concert formula. How did you come up with those ideas?

    “I was trained as an actor and a director. I was involved in theatrical productions from when I was in college. When Madonna asked me to direct the Blond Ambition Tour, she said she wanted to create something totally different from concerts that had been done before. We decided to create a show that was more than just singing and dancing. Our stage had large, elaborate sets, many costume changes and expressed various characters. Madonna appeared as a girl with curlers in her hair, a repentant sinner, and a mysterious mermaid. For me, ‘change’ and ‘contrast’ is important when creating work. In short, it means creating a completely different emotion right next to a proceeding one. For example, laughter after sadness or happiness after anger. By creating this roller coaster of emotions, we can keep moving people’s hearts or giving surprises. I wanted to make the Blond Ambition Tour not just a pop concert to watch but a theatrical event that impresses people. It’s no exaggeration to say that this tour was the beginning of theatrical type rock/pop concerts, which are now the norm. Humbly, it was a historical moment that changed the definition of concerts.”

    –What do you think Michael Jackson and Madonna brought to their era?

    “I think they were playing important roles as influencers who made changes in society’s movements, not only in America but on a world scale. For example, Madonna and I took the dance moves of Voguing, that was known only in gay clubs in New York, and used it for her song ‘Vogue’. At first, she didn’t think that “Vogue” would become that big of a success. She had placed the song in the middle of the concert, but I said ‘No! No! No! Vogue comes at the end of the show. This is going to be huge! This is going to blow their minds!’ When it comes to Michael, he often invited street dancers to the studios and danced with them. Michael learned a dance called the Back Slide from them, evolved it, and completed his own dance move called the Moonwalk. When he executed the Moonwalk in the TV special Motown 25, people were blown away thinking ‘What in the world is that?’ The credit of bringing movement from various cultures, which few people knew about, and making them world-class movements goes to Michael Jackson and Madonna. Also, they always said to me ‘Let’s make something that is totally new that the world has never seen before.’ We brought a lot of ideas out and played around with them. Especially, because Madonna was well versed in the visual arts and Michael in films and musicals, they created innovative modern rock and modern pop music by combining their strengths of classical elements to their works. For example, the monochrome music video of ‘Vogue’ was inspired by the black and white pictures by an American photographer named Horst from the 40s, and ‘Thriller’ was inspired by ‘An American Werewolf in London’. Through Michael Jackson and Madonna’s works, people not only renewed their understanding of how wonderful classical works were, but also were able to get new values and broaden their field of perspective by touching the most essential feature of art beyond the frame of pop music. That was exactly what we wanted to do.”

    –I think that Michael Jackson and Madonna are one of a kind in the history of humankind.

    “I agree. They had unique talents. In addition, they gave their best effort to make the best use of their potential. For example, when Michael didn’t know how to do a certain dance step, he would stand in front of the mirror and repeat the same movement thousands of times until he knew how to perform it perfectly. If you were close enough to see the amount of energy, concentration, and their incredible attitude that they put into their work, you would understand why Michael was able to become ‘Michael Jackson’ and why Madonna was able to become ‘Madonna’. They believed in and accepted their unique talents, and they wanted to bring out the best that they would be able to become. Also, they were blessed with wonderful creators such as directors and choreographers who brought out their talents to the best of their ability. All of their success had the perfect bond of creators where not one element could be excluded. But timing was the most important thing for their success. Thanks to the birth of MTV, their work was given an opportunity to be seen by billions of people at the same time. Remember, there was no Internet or social media back then. People all around the world were starving and were thirsty to see their icons, thinking ‘I want to see more! Give me more!’ That’s why fans listened to the records on repeat and watched the videos over and over. It warmed our hearts and made spectacular memories that we can never forget. Today, we are flooded with never ending information and people’s tastes are so diverse. The feeling of having your heart moved doesn’t last for a long time. It is interesting to think if Michael Jackson and Madonna could still become as famous as they were back then, if they debuted today. So, one important element that led them to become as successful as they were was the perfect timing of everything– talent, human resources, and the era they were born in. There could have been people who had almost the same talent and made almost the same effort but couldn’t become superstars. Probably, a little spell was cast on Michael Jackson and Madonna. And so, they were meant to be the unsurpassable ‘Only Ones in the World’.”


    –I heard that you might plan to hold some workshops for Michael’s dances in the future.

    “I was given a chance that nobody else can experience and was blessed with working with many talented artists and wonderful masterpieces. I hope that the happy circle of giving these irreplaceable gifts, such as the love and grace that I felt, to others keeps on going like an endless merry go round. Particularly, memories with Michael were special. He was a person who was like a child who never said mean words. What he taught me was to love people, to be considerate to people and to do good for the world. I’m hoping to hold workshops for Michael’s dances all over the world. I still want to share the magic that he shared with the world and me. Don’t you feel the same way?”


    Vincent Paterson ◎ He started his career as an actor and a director for a theatrical company and started learning dance when he was 24. He played the gang leader in Michael Jackson’s “Beat It”, and was an assistant choreographer for “Thriller”. He got an exceptional promotion as a choreographer for “Smooth Criminal”, causing his life thereon to change drastically. Later, he was involved in a number of M.J.’s legends. For example, he choreographed for “Black and White”, directed the Bad World Tour in 1987, and directed a Super Bowl Halftime Show in 1993. He is also known as a choreographer for Madonna. He directed and choreographed the Blond Ambition Tour, which made her an instant superstar. It is said that Madonna couldn’t be the person she is today if it wasn’t for him. What’s more, he also directed a Cirque du Soleil show and many other projects. He is active in various areas beyond the boundaries of industries.
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    “Love people, be considerate to people.
    Do good for the world.
    That is what Michael taught me.”
    “In Smooth Criminal,
    inspiration for that lean
    came from skiing.”
    “Michael and Madonna
    have always said to me
    that they want to create something that’s completely new
    that the world has never seen.” 

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    Tony A Explains Why Dr. Dre Turned Down Michael Jackson & Madonna
    By Mitch Findlay
    Jul 11, 2019 13:04


    Tony "Da Wizard" A reflects on the widespread impact of Dr. Dre.
    Hip-hop history is important. We've come to love so many of these legendary figures, and value the intricacies of their come-up stories. Earlier today, an interview was brought to my attention by the Murder Master Music Show, in which they linked up with iconic West Coast figure Tony "The Wizard" A, DJ for Hi-C and the west coast establishment The Roadium. Now, the interview originally ran in April, but it felt important enough to share a few months down the line, especially for those of you who value tales of this nature.

    Speaking with the Murder Master Music Show, Tony reflects on both his own mixtape run and that of Dr. Dre, who both spent time making tapes at iconic West Coast Flea Market The Roadium. "Dr. Dre was doing them from 84 to 87, and I took over around 87 to 91," explains Tony. "As a matter of fact, in 1990 when I released my last one, one of the songs that was on [DJ Quik's homemade mixtape The Red Tape], the infamous song that dissed MC Eiht, that song was on my tape from The Rodeo."

    As it happens, many of Da Wizard's early tapes featured appearances from a pre-fame Eazy E and Dr. Dre. "Even though they weren't to the magnitude they are now, those guys were real professionals," reflects Tony. "Me being from the streets, and hearing some street shit, I knew this was something the world had never heard of. I didn't know it would blow up all over the world, but I knew it would blow in my neighborhood...I remember asking Dre if he knew it would take off the way it did. He said 'no, but I knew controversy sells, so we went controversial with it."

    Tony A speaking on Dr. Dre with The Murder Master Music Show
    "Dre was a very very smart dude, even then when he was just doing mixtapes," says Tony. "He knew the business already. Ten steps ahead of everyone. Every time I went to Sir Jinx's house, I never saw Dr. Dre sitting around eating a bag of chips watching TV. He was always on the phone, always on the drum machine, he was always making moves. Eazy E was the same way. He was always showing people his music, his demos."

    "Dre loved east coast music," continues Da Wizard. "A lot of their beats were sampled from east coast artists. I'll take it further, east coast artists love Dre's production. I was in the studio when EPMD went there, and Chuck D went there. They wanted Dre to produce some of their songs. The east coast was definitely influenced by Dre. Madonna, Michael Jackson, wanted Dre to produce tracks for them. Let me tell you why he didn't. Not only because he was signed exclusive to Eazy, but he had so many projects, he couldn't. He didn't have the time. It was only one goose to lay the golden eggs."

    Imagine a world where Dr. Dre had linked up with Madonna and MJ? What might have changed?

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    Ola Ray was Michael Jackson's love interest in Thriller. She says his spirit visits her.

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    It was the cinematic music clip that ran for 14 minutes – changing the world of pop forever from its release date in 1983.
    Featuring dance moves that have lived on for decades through drunk people’s sloppy attempts to emulate them, Michael Jackson’s Thriller film clip is, by every definition, iconic.

    The music video was also the first time fans saw Michael in an onscreen romance, as he danced down the deserted street to a zombie-filled graveyard with former Playboy playmate Ola Ray.

    Now 58, Ola Ray popped up in the headlines only twice more after the film clip dropped.
    In 1992, she was arrested for drug possession, claiming the attention she received after the popularity of the film clip was at the root of her substance use, and in 2009, she sued the Jackson estate for breach of contract.

    The former model has penned a book about her time working with the controversial star, titled The Thrill of It, and on Thursday morning, she spoke to Studio 10 about the two weeks spent with the King of Pop, touching on the darkness that followed her short-lived fame.


    "I had a lot of people always coming to my house,” she told Craig Bennett of life after the film clip exploded onto screens around the world.
    "I was completely sober before... (but) they were just putting it out and I started using."
    In 1992, she was arrested at her home after police were tipped off about suspected drug activity.
    Ray says she was actually dating an undercover cop at the time, who had tried to taint her reputation by having media wait outside to film her arrest.
    "He called the television station and had them sitting there when I came out. It was a fake arrest, I never did any jail time," she told Bennett.


    She also went on to claim she was "kidnapped and held under someone's house for a couple of months" after she became involved with the West Hollywood drug scene.
    A UPI report from the year of her arrest claims she was arrested with possession of a controlled substance for sale, after police found a bag in her possession containing methamphetamine and cocaine. A pipe bomb was also found in her home, but it was detonated by bomb squad police in a controlled environment near the station.
    Her housemate faced an additional charge of possessing an explosive device.
    But before her run-in with the law, Ray was known only as the mysterious woman who won the coveted role of Michael Jackson's onscreen love interest.

    Ray recalls her audition for the film clip:
    "When he started to play Thriller, I got so excited," she said of meeting with her agent.
    Two weeks later, she scored the role thousands of women had dreamt of, and soon became the source of rumours that her relationship with Jackson was more than just as co-stars.
    "Well in a way it was like a real romance," she says of the time spent filming.
    "Everyone felt that love. We made it very special."
    Earlier this year, the former model told Daily Mail she had a "fling" with the controversial pop star.
    “I kissed him for the first time on the set, I kissed him on the cheek, then he asked me to come into his dressing room one day and I went in there and we sat down and had a conversation and we got really close and that's when he kissed me the second time," she told the publication.
    “It was a very passionate kiss and, you know, we also did a little something else, but that's all I'm gonna say.”
    “I'll just tell you this much,” she added. “He undressed in front of me, I'm not going to tell you anymore about it – you've got to read my book.”
    But while she only saw the popstar once more after filming wrapped, The Sun reports it wasn't the last the family would hear from her.
    Shortly after Jackson's death in 2009, Ray claimed she had been underpaid from her role in the video and was struggling to get by as a result.

    Ray said she was paid around $3400 for her role in the video, but didn’t get another payment for at least two years even though she had signed a lucrative contract.
    She also said she was promised 2.5 per cent of the royalties from the Thriller video, but when Jackson died, her contract was changed and she was tricked into signing a settlement agreement.
    Ray claimed she was owed millions of dollars in back pay dating 35 years since the video was released.
    The case was settled in 2013 by the Jackson estate. It's believed she received almost AUD$80,000 after she claimed her contract had been breached, according to TMZ.
    Rather bizarrely, that same year the former model paid tribute to the iconic Thriller film clip in one of her own, set to a track called Remember.

    It featured re-enactments of a number of the clip's sequences, including one featuring three zombies walking through a wood, while flashing back to snippets of the old footage.
    Ray had also attempted to recreate the dance moves made famous by the late singer.
    On Studio 10, when asked of the sexual assault allegations against Jackson by a number of men who claim they were molested by him as boys, she says she frankly "didn't believe it".
    The allegations have been thrust into headlines again this year after the Leaving Neverland documentary, which uncovered the claims of Wade Robson and James Safechuck.
    "It was horrifying to watch from afar (but) to this day I don't think he was capable of doing that," Ray says.
    "Michael made me feel so comfortable with him always laughing and joking. He was so funny," she recalls.
    At the end of the interview, she added that she has felt his presence on more than one occasion.
    "I've had a lot of different experiences with Michael's spirit. He has come back to me so many times."
    "If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with" - Michael Jackson

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