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    Default Re: is michael an r&b artist?

    Throughout his life, Michael wanted to make music for everyone to listen to, and he did just that and then some. On one of his interviews, Michael said he hated labels, wondering why we have to categorize music like that. That's why when he and his brothers finally got full creative freedom, they formed Peacock Productions because the peacock is full of colors, and they see the same way with people, to promote equality. When "Off The Wall" hit, it was around the time when disco suffered severe backlash, remember that from watching "Journey From Motown To Off The Wall?" It was mainly a racist and homophobic act. What really triggered Michael was when "Off The Wall" only got one Grammy nomination, and that's when the motivation happened to make "Thriller."

    Overall, there's no category to put Michael's music in. Music's a very universal language, and Michael proved it ever since. I agree with Berry Gordy when he said the title "King of Pop" was not big enough for him, he was, and still is, the greatest entertainer who ever lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    It is very misleading saying that MJ was a Pop artist and not an R&B artist. MJ has sung and recorded many R&B songs throughout his career, Rock With You, Lady In My Life, Even Though You're Gone, Remember The Time, Joy, You Are Not Alone, Heaven Can't Wait, Butterflies, just to name a few,and I haven't even taken into account the dozens of cover songs he did with Jackson 5 cover the greateast soul and R&B acts of all time.

    Yes MJ was pop oriented in his work but he was also very mich R&B oriented as well. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Now if the question was if MJ deserved to be in the top of that R&B list? That is another discussion. I don't agree with that list in that aspect but he definitely deserves to be in such a list.
    Just because he released some R&B songs, this does not make him an R&B artist.

    Generally, the feeling you get from Michael Jackson’s music is a pop feeling with a pop sound.

    Compare the music of Michael Jackson with the music of R&B artists like, Chris Brown, Alicia Keys, Babyface, Mary J. Blige, Usher, Brandy, Toni Braxton and so on.

    It would be unwise to include Michael Jackson in the same genre category with these R&B artists.

    Also, Michael Jackson’s case is similar to that of Madonna’s case.

    Although she released also dance songs in her career, her genre is pop, rather than dance, because the feeling you get from her music is generally a pop feeling.

    She is also called Queen Of Pop, for that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Just because he released some R&B songs, this does not make him an R&B artist.

    Generally, the feeling you get from Michael Jackson’s music is a pop feeling with a pop sound.

    Compare the music of Michael Jackson with the music of R&B artists like, Chris Brown, Alicia Keys, Babyface, Mary J. Blige, Usher, Brandy, Toni Braxton and so on.

    It would be unwise to include Michael Jackson in the same genre category with these R&B artists.

    Also, Michael Jackson’s case is similar to that of Madonna’s case.

    Although she released also dance songs in her career, her genre is pop, rather than dance, because the feeling you get from her music is generally a pop feeling.

    She is also called Queen Of Pop, for that reason.
    Dude, Michael Jackson came out of a Soul and R&B group, and he did not do "some" R&B songs his whole discography is filled with R&B songs. Off The Wall was a Disco/Soul and R&B record. Thriller was a pop record heavily influenced by soul and R&B. Dangerous was also a record where MJ

    I don't understand what that list is suppose to prove? Chris brown and usher and alicia keyes has also made many pop songs that sounds nowhere near traditional R&B but people do still classify them as R&B acts.

    MJ won favourite Soul/R&B artist, song, and album for Off The Wall and Thriller, won favoruite soul/R&B song for Bad and Remember the time and in 2009 was posthumusly awarded favorite soul/R&B artist.

    So clearly everyone else also sees him as an R&B and not just pop artist except for you.

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    To say, Michael was a “pop” artist is almost the equivalent to saying he “transcends race”, which is absolute bullshit, and an insult to who he was, what he stood for, and where he came from. Yes, his goal was to make music everybody could sing along to, but it was never pandering to a certain audience or demographic. His roots are r&b. That’s just what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Chris brown and usher and alicia keyes has also made many pop songs that sounds nowhere near traditional R&B but people do still classify them as R&B acts.
    That's because black artists are automatically considered R&B or hip hop by many people and the media too. White artists who do it are called "blue eyed soul". Black performers who make rock music are labeled "Black rock" which is ironic since rock n roll originated from black music like gospel, blues, and R&B. Rock became considered white music, because they're the ones who sold the most. More people bought Eric Clapton blues records, than ones by B.B. King or Muddy Waters. The original lineup of Fleetwood Mac was also a blues band. The early Beatles albums had a lot of remakes of R&B songs and they sold a lot more than the originals. Pop radio would play The Police who had reggae based music, but no black reggae artists. Same for early MTV showing few black artists because their music (R&B) was said to not fit the rock format of the network, but played videos by Hall & Oates and ABC, which was basically the same thing, only by white artists. Black artists (and acts of other non-white races like Gloria Estefan) had to crossover to pop radio, which is where they could get more sales and/or media coverage. So it's based on race.

    It seems that some people think R&B is one thing or sound. Both Barry White & Mel Waiters are R&B, but their music sounds nothing alike. R&B is "rhythm & blues". It includes blues, funk, soul, soul jazz, funk rock, Latin soul, Philly soul, disco, psychedelic soul, New Jack Swing, neo-soul, southern soul, Latin freestyle, electrofunk, country soul, soul blues, and so on. Rock n roll is an offspring of R&B itself. Technically early rock n roll was just R&B by white artists with a little country mixed in it and some of them had hits on the R&B chart, called Harlem Hit Parade at the time in Billboard. Like Elvis Presley, Conway Twitty, & Jerry Lee Lewis.

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