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    Default Re: Square One - Documentary about the '93 allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    You kind of right. Michael story is kind of similar to Emmet Til story.
    I've always used this comparison too. It's just as (if not more) sad.

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    Default Re: Square One - Documentary about the '93 allegations

    Too sad.

    I refuse to accept that this very complex, once in a lifetime unique phenomenon that is MJ, who brought as many careful joy as awareness to important issues to the world, who made the best dance songs while expressing pain and suffering as no other, who didn't just lay back to enjoy his success but used his unprecedented world fame and influence to try to make things a little better, and who of course had his faults as everyone is reduced to just a tragic figure.

    If we accept this, even if at some point everyone realises what character assassination he was exposed to, but he's just seen as a one-dimensional tragic figure, his detractors win. We should keep his real spirit alive.
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    Default Re: Square One - Documentary about the '93 allegations

    Maybe it’s time we talk differently about the allegations and call them what they are: extortion schemes. The choice of words can shape the perception.

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    Last night I watched ´SquareOne´. And, yes, I was impressed by the artful complexity of it. On the surface we see and hear vividly the Chandler extortion and all the well-known following sad incidents - and in the background it is underpinned with great pictures which may activate all the viewers to further thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozemouze View Post
    Too sad.

    I refuse to accept that this very complex, once in a lifetime unique phenomenon that is MJ, who brought as many careful joy as awareness to important issues to the world, who made the best dance songs while expressing pain and suffering as no other, who didn't just lay back to enjoy his success but used his unprecedented world fame and influence to try to make things a little better, and who of course had his faults as everyone is reduced to just a tragic figure.

    If we accept this, even if at some point everyone realises what character assassination he was exposed to, but he's just seen as a one-dimensional tragic figure, his detractors win. We should keep his real spirit alive.
    You're right. this isn't something to play with. this is very serious. if they can do MJ like this, they can do anyone like this. and let's just make it clear Michael was black. i truly believe this why they also doing this to him. which is so sad. i live in America and our history is ashame for blacks.

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    Default Re: Square One - Documentary about the '93 allegations

    Left a review for Square One on Rotten Tomatoes. We'll see if they post it.
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    Default How Michael Jackson was Extorted – Square One: Review by Pez Jax

    In a year where many of us were expecting Spike Lee’s Thriller documentary to complete the trilogy of behind the scenes glances at Michael Jackson’s most successful records, we’re instead seeing documentaries of a different kind.

    Following a slanderous and inaccurate movie with a singular narrative being released earlier this year, the conversation about accusations against Michael Jackson, have once again been a focal point for the media. With the movie opting to present claims that have now been debunked, no evidence to backup assertions and no voice for the opposing council; a vacuum was formed that desperately needed filling with truthful information, using facts as its source. Enter Square One.

    Square One takes us back to the first allegation of child abuse against Michael Jackson and thrusts it under a much-needed microscope. Through a chronological exploration, director Danny Wu demonstrates cohesively how Jackson became the victim of extortion by Evan Chandler.

    Disregarding any input of feeling to focus completely on facts, Wu has enlisted the help of Charles Thomson, an award-winning investigative journalist, who uses his calm and clear persona to provide an overview of the events that took place.

    Thomson’s input really helps to elevate the documentary as he uses countless hours of research and extensive knowledge to present the timeline in layman’s-terms. Perhaps one of the most informative moments is when Thomson explains the differences between the Civil and Criminal trial and explains how Jackson and his team were adamant that the criminal trial come first – Simply put, Jackson wanted to take the accusations to the criminal courts and fight his case. The Chandlers wanted the civil case to precede, ensuring their pay-day first. The Chandlers were offered the chance to take Jackson to criminal court following the settlement of the lawsuit they brought against Jackson – They chose not to do so.

    Wu also provides first-hand accounts from Taj Jackson on the photoshoot for the ‘Why’ single cover and Geraldine Hughes, who served as a legal secretary for the Chandler’s attorney Barry Rothman. As well as Jackson-fans Caroline Fristedt and Jenny Wining who spent the day at Neverland with Gavin Arvizo on the date he claimed the abuse took place and subsequently were added to the witness list in the 2005 trial.

    The documentary also introduces Josephine Zhony to the world. Zhony, a freelance PR specialist attended New York University as an undergraduate studying Music Business, a course that was also attended by Jordan Chandler. Zhony delivers an account of that time in the same class as Chandler.
    What’s vital about Zhony’s account is that at no time does she claim to have been a confidant of Chandler, nor does she claim that Chandler ever discussed his connection to Michael Jackson with her. She clearly states how the two crossed paths and where an interaction that related to Jackson came up.

    The success of Wu’s documentary lies in his ability to outline the circumstances in a clear timeline of events, whilst managing to cover other important chapters, such as Jackson’s suffering from Vitiligo and Lupus, The LaToya Jackson claims and the use of Sodium Amytal – All which lead back into the chronology Wu is presenting.

    Square One really does take you back to the very foundation of these allegations and discusses the source material from which Leaving Neverland takes its direction. The discredited fantasy piece produced by Chilean journalist and convicted fraud Victor Gutierrez, who as far back as 1986 began a campaign to present Jackson as a pedophile, to serve as the poster-child for NAMBLA.
    It demonstrates Gutierrez’s undeniable involvement in each and every shady character that attempted to tie Jackson to such heinous crimes.

    If Square One doesn’t shock you to the core, you were not paying attention. Wu and Thomson’s extensive research can be fully supported by legal documentation, testimony and irrefutable facts. The tape recording of Chandler’s intention, which also features in Square One, should have served as a smoking gun many years ago. Now taking its place in the full timeline, one can see exactly how Evan Chandler sought to extort money from Jackson

    It’s been questioned by some as to how Square One is able to challenge the narrative presented in Leaving Neverland and it’s easy to explain – The only reason the media and public are susceptible to accusations against Jackson is because of the first accusation. By proving the first accusation false, then the rest need to be pulled into question and scrutinized.

    “This is not about Michael Jackson” claimed Leaving Neverland’s creator, despite the full title of the hit piece being ‘Leaving Neverland: Michael Jackson and Me’ – a statement he has contradicted through his own actions at every outing. However, Square One really isn’t about Michael Jackson. it’s about everything happening around him at the time, using facts to drive the narrative.

    In an era where factions of the Me-Too movement continue to attempt to repress anybody who uses factual evidence from challenging an accusation, Square One serves as a stark reminder as to just how important facts are, because in Jackson’s case they clearly demonstrate the other side of the story, that no amount of ‘feeling sharing’ can deny. This is about dealing with extortion – Which is exactly what the 1993 claims were.

    Whilst Square One may not have the platform that other movies this year have received, its Youtube distribution is reflective of today’s attitude of free knowledge and information sharing for all. Shouldering the financial commitments for production has allowed Wu to create a documentary free from corporate bias or mainstream agenda, on one of the most accessible platforms in the world – It may not reach the masses, but it will reach the right people – The people looking for the truth, willing to open their minds, interested in facts over feelings.

    For anybody who invested 4-hours this year in a constructed, emotionally manipulative, disturbed fantasy movie; Watch Square One. The truth doesn’t need 4-hours (or whatever the current runtime is due to the multiple re-edits due to claims being proven false) and you’ll learn exactly why others think that accusing Jackson is financially viable avenue to go down.

    To the fans – Share Square One with your family, with your work colleagues, with your friends – What Square One demonstrates is why Michael continues to have your support and the support of millions of people all around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elton-Cetera View Post
    Square One has over 46,000 views so far. Why is this doing so much better than Leaving Neverland: Take Two? (Under 4000 views). I want them both to have the same exposure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    That's a re-upload. The first upload had a lot more views but was taken down, because the audio was taken from a podcast without permission. They somehow settled then and it was reuploaded. A shame really that the podcast guy couldn't just let it be for the good cause of it all. I think the original views were over 50k (or was it even over 100k?)
    Thats incorrect. The first one was copyright claimed by KEW MEDIA, the company behind the production of Leaving Neverland in the UK: The video was then re-instated by youtube when KEW MEDIA did not provide any valid reason for the copyright claim. The video then went on to have I believe 200 000 - 300 000 views. And then it was taken down AGAIN for copyright claim and this time by MUSO TNT LTD.

    How can MUSO TNT LTD. keep the youtube video of "Leaving Neverland Take Two" taken down when Kew Media failed to so? What does MUSO TNT LTD. have going for them that Kew Media did not have? Thats a question I cant answer and neither could Ryan Michaels.

    Its true that some people uploaded "take two" themselves and they were removed because Ryan Michaels copyright striked them himself!

    Just wanted to point that out, especially since the authors of Leaving Neverland are HEAVILY involved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainEoLove85 View Post
    Left a review for Square One on Rotten Tomatoes. We'll see if they post it.
    I do not see it on Rotten tomatoes, do you have a link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrell View Post
    I do not see it on Rotten tomatoes, do you have a link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    And then it was taken down AGAIN for copyright claim and this time by MUSO TNT LTD.

    How can MUSO TNT LTD. keep the youtube video of "Leaving Neverland Take Two" taken down when Kew Media failed to so? What does MUSO TNT LTD. have going for them that Kew Media did not have? Thats a question I cant answer and neither could Ryan Michaels.

    Muso TNT Ltd is a company that record labels and anyone owning copyrights can hire to deal with piracy in the internet. They handle the tedious work for getting things removed and actively search for pirated / unauthorized uploads.

    So they were probably hired by Kew Media or any of the distributors of LN.

    Question also is, why the current upload wasn't removed then. Maybe they just wanted to have the "big one" gone that had a lot of views, especially as it seized the momentum of LN being just released on YouTube.

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