French Michael Jackson fans sue Leavng Neverland Accusers

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5th July 2019

French Michael Jackson fans sue Leaving Neverland accusers

Three Michael Jackson fan clubs in France have launched legal proceedings against the men who accused the late star of abusing them in a documentary.

The claims of James Safechuck and Wade Robson, who both say they were sexually abused by Jackson as children, formed the basis of HBO's Leaving Neverland.

The Michael Jackson Community, the MJ Street and On the Line groups sued the men in Orleans, northern France.

Unlike the UK and US, French defamation laws extend libel beyond death.

According to Reuters, the court said a judgment would be delivered on 4 October.

In Leaving Neverland, directed by British filmmaker Dan Reed, both Safechuck and Robson say they were befriended by the late singer in the 1990s and were showered with gifts and affection before the sexual abuse began.

Following the documentary, which was broadcast on the M6 channel in France, some radio stations stopped playing his music and fashion brand Louis Vuitton removed Jackson-themed items from its 2019 summer menswear collection.

The fans' lawyer, Emmanuel Ludot, said the allegations - broadcast in the UK on Channel 4 - amounted to a "genuine lynching" of Jackson, who died in 2009.

The fan groups are seeking symbolic damages of one euro (90p) each.

In 2014, Mr Ludot represented the Michael Jackson Community when they won nominal damages of one euro from the pop star's private doctor, Conrad Murray, for his part in Jackson's death.

"In France you cannot sully the image of the dead," Mr Ludot said. "There's moral and emotional suffering. And when there's suffering, there's compensation. It's very simple."

The proceedings have been welcomed by Michael Jackson's estate.

In a statement reported in the New York Post, it said it was "in full support of Mr Ludot's efforts on behalf of Michael and his beloved fans in France and across the globe that the truth shall ultimately prevail".

The estate hoped, it said, that "a victory in France will soon fuel a movement in the United States to finally explore changes in the law to afford defamation protection for the deceased".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48879801
 
(From fans on Twitter).

The hearing of the trial of the 3 French associations against J. Safechuck and W. Robson in Orleans is postponed until December 5th 2019.
 
Some more details:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="hu"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The final decision has been rescheduled to December 5th.<br><br>The reason: Wade Robson did not receive the subpoena because he wasn't located yet.<a href="https://t.co/9jivrspdvO">https://t.co/9jivrspdvO</a><br><br>I called the Orleans Court, they confirmed it to me. <a href="https://t.co/I5y9bf59PW">https://t.co/I5y9bf59PW</a></p>&mdash; Joce (@FunkyJoce) <a href="https://twitter.com/FunkyJoce/status/1180091326932623360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2019. október 4.</a></blockquote>
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What is the situation in this case? Will R&S have to actually show up in France tomorrow?
 
I doubt they will, but if they were, they'll be facing the fellow French fans anger towards em'.
 
Postponed until March 17th.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr">Le tribunal judiciaire d&#39;Orléans examinera l&#39;affaire Michael Jackson le 17 mars 2020 <a href="https://t.co/rQp1Ac6uRz">https://t.co/rQp1Ac6uRz</a> <a href="https://t.co/DygdUEgAu6">pic.twitter.com/DygdUEgAu6</a></p>&mdash; République du Centre (@larep_fr) <a href="https://twitter.com/larep_fr/status/1202601783119564800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can someone who actually knows French explain the reasons? Google Translate doesn’t give a very good result for that article.
 
ScreenOrigami;4275903 said:
Postponed until March 17th.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr">Le tribunal judiciaire d'Orléans examinera l'affaire Michael Jackson le 17 mars 2020 <a href="https://t.co/rQp1Ac6uRz">https://t.co/rQp1Ac6uRz</a> <a href="https://t.co/DygdUEgAu6">pic.twitter.com/DygdUEgAu6</a></p>&#8212; République du Centre (@larep_fr) <a href="https://twitter.com/larep_fr/status/1202601783119564800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can someone who actually knows French explain the reasons? Google Translate doesn&#8217;t give a very good result for that article.
why is everything postponed, really starting to annoy me now
 
OH COME ON! If these b@$^@#%$ didn't show up, make them cough up the $$$ and give the fellow French fans a win and get it over with. Stop postponing the hearing, like are you trying to agitate us!?
 
Apparently the reason are the strikes that are currently going on in France. :doh:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Due to the general strike who started today in France, the decision has been &quot;again&quot; postponed to March 17th 2020.<a href="https://t.co/9u2kKyfIrJ">https://t.co/9u2kKyfIrJ</a><br><br>&#120293;&#120306;&#120314;&#120310;&#120315;&#120305;&#120306;&#120319;: A group of french fans sued Wade Robson and James Safechuck in March 2019 after the broadcast of Leaving Neverland. <a href="https://t.co/UUlvKWTo3J">https://t.co/UUlvKWTo3J</a></p>&mdash; Joce (@FunkyJoce) <a href="https://twitter.com/FunkyJoce/status/1202620079776698368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Of course Robson wasn't located. Why? Because he's a COWARD!
 
PoP;4275923 said:
Of course Robson wasn't located. Why? Because he's a COWARD!

That was the reason the last time they postponed it. This time around it&#8217;s the general strike in France.

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Public sector institutions (including courts) are basically closed down.
 
La74;4275952 said:
As far as I understand Wade is located in Hawaii. He has some sort of dance class &#8221;Groove with Wade&#8221; which isn&#8217;t going so well. Not many viewers

It's not going well because his choreography is rubbish. He looks like a sick chicken flailing around.
The only time his moves were watchable was when he was channeling MJ and of course he can't do that any more. LOL
 
So, the 17th came and went, and obviously right now there are other things to worry about, but do we have a new date or anything?
 
This lawsuit and the one by wade and jimmy sueing mj's companies have been pushed off because of the virus.
 
NatureCriminal7896;4289349 said:
Oh. I think it gonna take awhile. this virus isn't leaving anytime soon.

I agree it&#8217;ll take a while, but the virus isn&#8217;t gonna last forever.
 
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