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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    Man I gotta hand it to you, that version of blue gangster is incredible!

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    Invincible is perfect as is. Just add those tracks to Invincible 25, no need to remove great songs.

    Also, what's with the Lost Children hate? I think that song is amazing!

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkySnare View Post
    Invincible is perfect as is. Just add those tracks to Invincible 25, no need to remove great songs.

    Also, what's with the Lost Children hate? I think that song is amazing!
    Agreed! There’s some beautiful moments left out of this for much weaker songs.. Shout being the main culprit.

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    I'd rather add a CD2 with songs like BG, APWNN, AD, HT, SWLM and Xscape.

    ;-)


    also swap out Privacy with the extended version from kai. that one is epic with unheard vocals.
    MJ fan since 1991 <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by dam2040 View Post
    Agreed! There’s some beautiful moments left out of this for much weaker songs.. Shout being the main culprit.
    I listen to that song often.... the vocals are beautiful! Shout can stay where it was (unreleased)

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    The number 1 thing I'd remove from Invincible is that god awful Chris Tucker intro for You Rock My World. I love Chris, but that was just embarrassing and unnecessary

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    The number 1 thing I'd remove from Invincible is that god awful Chris Tucker intro for You Rock My World. I love Chris, but that was just embarrassing and unnecessary
    I mean I kinda agree, but the way Michael says 'Watch' with that confidence is just insanely cool.

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    Really? I always thought it was OK.
    It sure as hell beats the spoken intro to the Can't Stop Loving You, if you ask me.

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    Replaced You are my life with we’ve had enough. For whatever reason I just don’t like You are my life at all. I skip it every time it’s on cringeworthy in my opinion. Sorry should kept that one in the vault.

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    I almost never listen to You Are My Life. There are just too many tracks on Invincible that are bland and forgettable.

    And yes that YRMW intro is dreadful, I use the radio edit if anything.

    Love the Can't Stop intro though. I miss it sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderouzmj View Post
    I love the artwork. I think that's as close as the original we'll get. Thanks
    No problem, and thank you!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    This is cool! Well done.

    Thanks

    I like the idea of fixing up the tracklist. At a glance, this definitely looks better. Would be interested to hear how it flows.
    Just hit the download link on my twitter and you can download the mp3s https://twitter.com/UniverseMJJ/stat...56977205268485

    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Man I gotta hand it to you, that version of blue gangster is incredible!
    Thank yooouuuu!!! Glad you appreciate. I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderouzmj View Post
    I listen to that song often.... the vocals are beautiful! Shout can stay where it was (unreleased)
    lol SHOUT is great! MJ is almost rapping in it and it's different, modern and funky. I like the message and wish it was a single with video! FYI, it was released, as a B-Side on the European single of Cry. Which I think is a massive shame as it's FAR superior to Cry. In fact, Shout was meant to be on the album until it was swapped at the last minute for You Are My Life (another kind of bland song)

    The 5 tracks I removed are (In order of quality):

    Speechless (Sweet but too Disney and saccharine for me)
    You Are My Life (Nice-ish, it's OK but nothing special at all)
    Cry (Ok on occasion, but is basically a poor Man in The Mirror knock off)
    The Lost Children (Kinda sweet and I understand why this song is important to Michael but I don't think it fits on the album and it's again very Disney, verging into adult contemporary with the sound, I don't think the message is hugely relatable - very specific issue of missing kids - probs would have been better to talk about harm against kids in general (slavery, trafficking, etc), and make it more powerful rather than nursery rhymey. Or to leave the kids subject altogether, as it could be perceived negatively by the public)
    Don't Walk Away (IMO the worst track on Invincible, for me it's very boring, and vocally it sounds very safe for Michael. Nothing really happens in the song and it's got that Adult contemporary/easy listening feel. On top it's kinda depressing/melancholy which works on a track like Stranger in Moscow - but not here)

    Someone said that Invincible is perfect, well, I did this because I think the album is generally regarded (by fans and public alike) as his worst. This bothers me because I actually think it's a great album - It just had a larger amount of tracks than his previous - but the problem is those additional tracks weren't as great, and brings the average perception down. If I remove those 5 that I consider to be weaker - that's still 11 songs that I LOVE. Similar amount of tracks as Thriller, Bad, OTW, and just as good IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeJac2005 View Post
    lol SHOUT is great! MJ is almost rapping in it and it's different, modern and funky. I like the message and wish it was a single with video! FYI, it was released, as a B-Side on the European single of Cry. Which I think is a massive shame as it's FAR superior to Cry. In fact, Shout was meant to be on the album until it was swapped at the last minute for You Are My Life (another kind of bland song)

    Speechless (Sweet but too Disney and
    Shout is a great song. My only gripe with it is that I wish the engineer would have turned up MJ’s vocal a bit. Make them more clearer. The lyrics are so hard hitting and powerful and it’s a disservice to the lyrics to make them that inaudible.

    All in all this was a great project. I listened to it from top to bottom and it was a coherent piece of work. Even though I would have chose other songs I did like your version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Shout is a great song. My only gripe with it is that I wish the engineer would have turned up MJ’s vocal a bit. Make them more clearer. The lyrics are so hard hitting and powerful and it’s a disservice to the lyrics to make them that inaudible.

    All in all this was a great project. I listened to it from top to bottom and it was a coherent piece of work. Even though I would have chose other songs I did like your version.
    Thank you! I kinda agree about the level of the vocals, also the bass is lacking - the drums are less punchy than anything else on Invincible so I did bass boost it a bit in my version

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    Default Re: Invincible Reimagined

    Well, there are filler songs on every album, IMO.

    Thriller had Lady in my Life.
    Bad had Just Good Friends.
    Dangerous had She Drives me Wild, Can't Let Her Get Away and Keep the Faith.
    HIStory had D.S., Come Together, Childhood and Little Susie.
    Invincible had You Are my Life and Don't Walk Away.

    But I wouldn't remove them, they all make the albums what they are.
    Sure, there are many songs that deserve their albums and could be added. But I wouldn't remove any

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