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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderouzmj View Post
    Im more concerned on what this project was & where is the film footage!

    Like the "1987", "unreleased project" could be fantasized as well, to make the photo more interesting.

    The headset microphone does make it indeed look backstage... to whatever.
    It wouldn't be really necessary for a photo or video shoot. Hmm... a HIStory concert?
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    Default Re: Royal Brunei 1996 Bad Tour Version

    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    Like the "1987", "unreleased project" could be fantasized as well, to make the photo more interesting.

    The headset microphone does make it indeed look backstage... to whatever.
    It wouldn't be really necessary for a photo or video shoot. Hmm... a HIStory concert?
    Maybe it’s from a History Tour Rehearsal day?

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    No. I think it´s fake. It is just a ´very well-made´ photoshop: Michaels face is from any DANGEROUS-Tour performance (look at his make-up, and he is wearing a microphone from that time), the jacket is clear BAD-era, the hat just any fantasy. What makes it looking ´real´ are maybe the hands and the autograph. But in my opinion nothing matches with any reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyMeToTheMoon View Post
    No. I think it´s fake. It is just a ´very well-made´ photoshop: Michaels face is from any DANGEROUS-Tour performance (look at his make-up, and he is wearing a microphone from that time), the jacket is clear BAD-era, the hat just any fantasy. What makes it looking ´real´ are maybe the hands and the autograph. But in my opinion nothing matches with any reality.
    Dude? It can perfectly be from a rehearsal.

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    I don't think it's edited or fake.

    Looks real to me. Could very well be from a rehearsal.
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    I don't think this rare. i saw this before.



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    Just asked the question to Karen and Taj on Twitter......... I know this picture for years and always wondered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thijzzz View Post
    Just asked the question to Karen and Taj on Twitter......... I know this picture for years and always wondered
    Ok, I´m open to learn. I´m looking forward to their answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    The original set list of the 1996 Royal Brunei concert was not a combination of the BAD Tour and the Dangerous Tour as this set list suggests.

    Michael Jackson originally wanted to use that 1996 Royal Brunei concert as a smooth transition from the Dangerous Tour to the HIStory Tour.

    So, he originally planned that 1996 Royal Brunei concert with that in his mind, meaning it had to be a Dangerous Tour concert with few, new HIStory Tour additions like, ‘You Are Not Alone’ or ‘Earth Song'.

    Besides, he thought that it would be a regressive move to bring back a big part of the BAD Tour (in terms of songs, costumes, etc) in the 1996 Royal Brunei concert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
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    I'm not sure if your a troll or just have your own opinions on Michael. if these are facts please tell us were you get your info. thank you very much. no harm at all.

    He won't reply to things like this. I don't think he counts as a troll, he's just too full of himself beyond repair (to care about properly sharing information, distinguishable from personal interpretation).




    So I googled a little regarding this...

    Apparently there really was the idea to have a BAD / DANGEROUS fusion type of set for that royal concert (for the 50th birthday of the Sultan of Brunei, who allegedly paid Michael 17m for that one-off concert, about 2 months before the HIStory tour started.)

    There's a mention here:
    https://michael-jackson.fandom.com/wiki/Royal_Concert

    "In October 2015, it was revealed that the Royal Concert was originally supposed to resemble both the Bad and Dangerous World Tours with Jackson wearing costumes and performing songs from both tours including "Another Part of Me", "Rock with You", "Dirty Diana", "Heal the World" and "Bad". However, the original concept was scrapped after a meeting between Jackson and Kenny Ortega prior to preparation for the concert in which it was decided that Jackson would do a Dangerous Tour-style performance instead."




    No source is given there... but googling a little further... it seems to be based on an alleged "leak" of an email (or facebook post?) by Peggy Holmes (Michaels tour assistant director) from 2015. I only found this portuguese translation here:

    https://mjbeats.com.br/michael-jacks...96-f12c9879c72
    “Oi pessoal! Eu também trabalhei na setlist com o MJ para a versão Bad do concerto [Royal Concert em Brunei 96], MJ estava muito ansioso para voltar a essa “era”, mas dias antes da preparação do concerto, Michael teve uma reunião com Kenny Ortega [diretor da Dangerous Tour, HIStory Tour e This Is It] sobre isso, no que acabou mudando a decisão de Michael, a set list e o set-up [figurinos, arranjos, efeitos, etc] e acabaram decidindo que seria ao estilo Dangerous Tour. Infelizmente, porque nós sempre curtimos a Bad Tour e para Michael essa turnê foi lendária. Mesmo assim, Brunei 96 foi um grande concerto’’.

    Translated back to english:
    "Hi guys! I also worked on the setlist with MJ for the Bad version of the concert [Royal Concert in Brunei 96], MJ was very anxious to go back to that “era”, but days before the concert was set up, Michael had a meeting with Kenny Ortega [ director of Dangerous Tour, HIStory Tour and This Is It] about that, which ended up changing Michael's decision, the set list and the set-up [costumes, arrangements, effects, etc.] and ended up deciding it would be the Dangerous Tour style . Unfortunately, because we always enjoy the Bad Tour and for Michael this tour was legendary. Still, Brunei 96 was a great concert ’’.



    So if there is any truth to it, it could be that it was initially suggested / requested by the Sultan to have such a Bad / Dangerous mix concert. And Michael at first was up for it / wanted to do it for the Sultan, but then, after going into details / feasibility with Kenny, changed his mind.

    In any case, the song BAD doesn't seem to have been rehearsed. But that doesn't rule out that the new photo of this thread somehow has a backstage / rehearsal connection to that Brunei concert anyway.

    If plans were really changed only shortly before the concert, then all the BAD style costumes probably were ready made and available in Michaels wardrobe for that concert. So he maybe just had fun wearing them backstage.

    In that light also the "unreleased project" remark by the photographer would make sense to some degree. She just got the year wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    In that light also the "unreleased project" remark my the photographer would make sense to some degree. She just got the year wrong.
    Maybe the photographer found the photo in their archive and retroactively dated it back to 1987 by accident, because they looked up when the “Bad” tour began?
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    Default Re: Royal Brunei 1996 Bad Tour Version

    Don’t know why people doubt the pic - it’s clearly real

    MJ has headset on also. Such an intriguing picture

    Would have loved to see Bad and dangerous shows smashed together in one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreenOrigami View Post
    Maybe the photographer found the photo in their archive and retroactively dated it back to 1987 by accident, because they looked up when the “Bad” tour began?
    That's possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by dam2040 View Post
    Would have loved to see Bad and dangerous shows smashed together in one
    That would of been interesting.



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    Comparing his sideburns with this pic i can conclude that this photo for 1 is not rare because ive seen this before... & its definitely not anything before 95. His hair texture changed drastically after 1993 & his side burns werent the same between 93 & 96 especially after that "haircut" im not even sure if he got it cut. Just wore a wig...because i cant remember the order of songs from history but it definitely "grew back" like crazy within a year lol
    1993
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    19951996
    These 2 photos were definitely in the same year
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreenOrigami View Post
    Maybe the photographer found the photo in their archive and retroactively dated it back to 1987 by accident, because they looked up when the “Bad” tour began?
    If she herself came up with the date, it's still a little strange though. She got to photograph MICHAEL JACKSON in BRUNEI and gets the decade wrong?
    But I guess it depends on how long she worked for Michael (not over a decade I guess?), how much of a Michael geek she was (it takes a bit to make the BAD connection with this photo) and how much she actually knew about what was planned / going on.





    Quote Originally Posted by wonderouzmj View Post
    its definitely not anything before 95.
    ...
    Not sure what you mean... going by the sideburns, the Bad-Jacket photo can perfectly be 1996.

    Michael about two months later in Prague:




    As a man I can tell you that those sideburns grow like beard within a week or two, if they are not shaved.
    They certainly are not part of a wig / hair piece Michael might have worn at that time.
    Last edited by Electro; 13-02-2020 at 04:38 PM.

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