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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson112 View Post
    See, if he thinks MJ is now a pedophile, I don’t know what he’s doing keeping unreleased footage, he might as well just give it up.
    He does?

    Maybe the live singing is just too horrible that it should rather stay unreleased? Just a possibility. I somehow can't imagin Michael having a good enough voice singing this type of (calm clean voice-centered) song live at that time.
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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    He does?

    Maybe the live singing is just too horrible that it should rather stay unreleased? Just a possibility. I somehow can't imagin Michael having a good enough voice singing this type of (calm clean voice-centered) song live at that time.
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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    He does?

    Maybe the live singing is just too horrible that it should rather stay unreleased? Just a possibility. I somehow can't imagin Michael having a good enough voice singing this type of (calm clean voice-centered) song live at that time.
    He went mental on twitter and said he think mj is a nonce now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothGangsta View Post
    He went mental on twitter and said he think mj is a nonce now.
    I don’t think he’s even on Twitter anymore, I think he’s, for the most part, gone from social media. If he wants to disassociate from Michael so much, what is he doing keeping unreleased footage of a supposed “nonce”? Maybe he burned it, I don’t know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothGangsta View Post
    He went mental on twitter and said he think mj is a nonce now.
    He is just another parasite who used Michael to get famous and relevant, but turned on him once leaving neverland aired.

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    I talked to Anthony months before the documentary and i asked to him bout those rehearsals videos, he told me he had those footages on his HDD and he was trying to find those and if he would have find these he was to giving these to MJCast. This is what he told me. But it never happened. But i'm pretty sure he's not the only one to have these, or atleast he gave a copy to someone else.

    Also, a great friend of mine were at those rehearsals, and he confirmed Michael wasn't in a good shape during those, same for Whitney.

    And as i may know, i recognize two different amateur recordings from two different days, the Anthony amateur shot it should be from the 6th September day,
    Another source comes from fefeinla, the instagram guy who shared the RWY band rehearsals with the vocalists, that one it should be from a different rehearsal day.
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    Default Michael Jackson's near duet with Whitney Houston

    For years the idea of a song with legends came close to happening

    Michael Jackson's duet with Whitney Houston would undoubtedly be a masterpiece. For years, both stars occupied the top spots of popularity and triumphed in different genres.

    And the idea of a song with the legends came close to happening during the years that were active, in fact, happened on two different occasions. But none of them worked...

    Almost there

    The first attempt at a duet came in 1987 when Jackson wrote the ballad ''I Just Can 't Stop Loving You'', a song that is included on his album Bad. Initially the King of pop wanted to sing the song in duet with Barbra Streisand, as detailed in the book ''The Billboard Book of Number 1 Hits'', but she rejected it because she did not sympathize with the song. After the refusal, Jackson called Whitney Houston, however the artist's record label thought that if Whitney was part of the song it could subtract value from the promotion of her second album. Finally it was singer-songwriter Siedah Garrett who participated with Jackson, starting a musical relationship in which she would eventually create some of the king of pop's best-known themes, the song ''Man in a Mirror''.

    The second attempt

    The second time Jackson and Houston were about to record together came years later. According to the book ''Michael Jackson: All the Songs''producer Rodney Jenkins wrote a song for the King of pop called ''If I Told You That''. He wanted the two artists to record in duet. Jackson initially liked the idea, but there are different versions as to why they never recorded the song.
    The book says that after news of the collaboration leaked, Jackson changed his mind. However, Smooth Radio reports that Jackson was on the road and would not be able to record on the scheduled date. Whatever the reason, we missed the opportunity to hear a historical duet.

    Whitney Houston instead released the song with George Michael. ''If I Told You That'' didn't make the hit lists in the United States, but it certainly would have worked better with Michael Jackson...

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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    The Lost Media Wiki doesn't have a citation for this, but their article has this in their table of unreleased MJ music:

    Title Writer Acknowledgement Notes Status
    Color of My Soul Michael Jackson Unknown Written in 2000; possibly recorded in 2006 with Whitney Houston on backing vocals. Lost

    Even if this is accurate information, it's not really a duet, but there's a chance they did collab together. I wouldn't rule such a thing out -- there's a couple Freddie Mercury collaborations in the Vault ("State of Shock" and "Victory"), the song "Crack Kills" with Run-D.M.C., and "Halloween Night" with Slash. This isn't to say that these collaborations went anywhere or are by any means releasable by any of their creators' standards, but MJ's Vault may be just a tad deeper than we think.
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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    In 2015, a fan asked (via Twitter) Legacy Recordings, which is a division of Sony Music, for information about the supposed ‘Days Of The Broken Hearted’ duet song.

    ‘Days Of The Broken Hearted’ was supposedly recorded as a duet song in 2007, in a period when Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston were recording their respective, new studio albums.

    Legacy Recordings responded positively to that fan.

    Legacy Recordings even called for a public response by asking fans to hashtag that single in order to get it released (hashtag #DaysoftheBrokenHeartedAsASingle).

    There were also rumours that the ‘Days Of The Broken Hearted’ duet song was meant for inclusion on the ‘Michael’ album (2010).

    This suggests that this duet song might actually exist in a releasable state.

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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    It doesn't exist. A Michael/Whitney duet would have been massive if it was ever recorded/in the vault. Yet there is no information about it from any producers etc. No point going there.
    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    In 2015, a fan asked (via Twitter) Legacy Recordings, which is a division of Sony Music, for information about the supposed ‘Days Of The Broken Hearted’ duet song.

    ‘Days Of The Broken Hearted’ was supposedly recorded as a duet song in 2007, in a period when Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston were recording their respective, new studio albums.

    Legacy Recordings responded positively to that fan.

    Legacy Recordings even called for a public response by asking fans to hashtag that single in order to get it released (hashtag #DaysoftheBrokenHeartedAsASingle).

    There were also rumours that the ‘Days Of The Broken Hearted’ duet song was meant for inclusion on the ‘Michael’ album (2010).

    This suggests that this duet song might actually exist in a releasable state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Whitney Houston instead released the song with George Michael. ''If I Told You That'' didn't make the hit lists in the United States, but it certainly would have worked better with Michael Jackson...
    George was kinda blacklisted in the USA after the bathroom arrest and never really got the same radio airplay for his new songs again in the US. So he couldn't get the same popularity as before. Mary J. Blige's record label requested that Sony not release Mary's duet with George As. It was released in other countries, but it was not even on George's USA version of his Greatest Hits album.

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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmitLal92 View Post
    It doesn't exist. A Michael/Whitney duet would have been massive if it was ever recorded/in the vault. Yet there is no information about it from any producers etc. No point going there.
    Hi I spoke with MJ FRENZY and he has heard the track I am confident it exists. He spoke exclusively with MJ in 2009 and he had played it for him. MJ told MJ FRENZY that he was saving the song to release in the future

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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    More than likely some more songs are recorded and exist but doesn’t mean the Estate has them in their possession. MJ didn’t trust many people, so who knows where certain songs are. The songs we have are it at the moment. The fact that not much has been released since his death is telling. Either, he lost them or destroyed them or simply told the producers to never hand them over for release. We may never know. The thing that has always concerned me is they released the Casio tracks, that tell me they probably don’t have much in their possession. So we have 7 tracks from the Michael album, demos from Bad and some previously leaked then butchered songs on Xscape. So we think all of a sudden we are going to get some fresh new tracks? The time to released anything new and strong was immediately after he died.

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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dilan View Post
    Hi I spoke with MJ FRENZY and he has heard the track I am confident it exists. He spoke exclusively with MJ in 2009 and he had played it for him. MJ told MJ FRENZY that he was saving the song to release in the future
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    Default Re: Does the MJ + Whitney Duet really exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smooth72 View Post
    More than likely some more songs are recorded and exist but doesn’t mean the Estate has them in their possession. MJ didn’t trust many people, so who knows where certain songs are. The songs we have are it at the moment.
    I agree with this, I would assume that everything that has been released so far was what was directly in Michael's possession on his properties at the time of his death, which would explain why only one collab track has been released thus far ("Another Day" with Lenny Kravitz) when many such tracks exist. And then there's the case of collaborators like Will.i.am, who seems to be waiting to be presented with a deal in return for the rights to release them. I think that it's more of a legal problem than a material problem as regards releasing tracks from MJ's Vault. Remember the huge deal Paul Anka made when "This Is It" was released without him being credited? I think that the Estate is wary of similar things happening with other songs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smooth72 View Post
    The fact that not much has been released since his death is telling. Either, he lost them or destroyed them or simply told the producers to never hand them over for release. We may never know. The thing that has always concerned me is they released the Casio tracks, that tell me they probably don’t have much in their possession. So we have 7 tracks from the Michael album, demos from Bad and some previously leaked then butchered songs on Xscape. So we think all of a sudden we are going to get some fresh new tracks? The time to released anything new and strong was immediately after he died.
    This I don't quite agree with. There were a number of non-Cascio tracks that were worked on and considered for Michael ("Lovely Way", "Slave to the Rhythm", "Do You Know Where Your Children Are", "She Was Loving Me/Chicago") and Xscape ("Hot Fun In The Summertime", "Chicago 1945"), some of which went on to see release. And I don't know about you guys, but I don't think anyone had even heard of "Price of Fame" or "I'm So Blue" until Bad 25 came out. This leads me to think that the Vault has a bit more in it than we might think. I'd say there is 100% complete and releasable stuff in there -- not to mention half-completed or almost-complete tracks -- and I don't doubt that we'll get a new EP or an album in a few years' time. But I do agree, it's kinda ridiculous to expect a full-fledged album right this minute. I'd be fine with any release as long as it was done with passion and respect to Michael's vision.

    As regards any Whitney Houston collab sitting in either Whitney's or MJ's Vaults, I think that will take quite a bit of negotiations between the two Estates for any such project to see release. Just like the Freddie Mercury-MJ songs or the other Paul Anka duets.
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