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    Default MJ's most creative songs?

    This is mostly a thread for musicologists, I don't know if any are here. People that know a thing or two about music and how it is created.
    I'm looking for insight on recordings that are mind-blowing, creative, rule breaking stuff. (The Beatles and The Kinks are known for breaking the rules regarding to popular music)

    I'm not sure if the following songs are groundbreaking but I at the time of it's release never heard anything like HIStory (the song), Little Susie and Morphine.

    Let's see where this thread goes...

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    I think Wanna Be Starting Something, Heartbreaker and Speed Demon are three highly innovative tracks. I wouldn't say rule breaking, honestly not many songs that are made are truly rule breaking, but these three songs sticks out to me. When you think about it, WBSS doesn't even have a clear structure. It's "all over the place" in the best way ever. I might come back with other songs.

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    This is slightly off topic but I always loved several tracks of Roy Orbison who took the verse - chorus - verse structure of songs apart in the 60s , he made music that builded up to a climax. One of my faves is "running scared". That's definitely breaking the conventional rules of popular music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    I think Wanna Be Starting Something, Heartbreaker and Speed Demon are three highly innovative tracks. I wouldn't say rule breaking, honestly not many songs that are made are truly rule breaking, but these three songs sticks out to me. When you think about it, WBSS doesn't even have a clear structure. It's "all over the place" in the best way ever. I might come back with other songs.
    Heartbreaker has a mind blowing beat imo, it sounds so complex , I often hear things I never heard before in this beat. It's his last masterpiece imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    When you think about it, WBSS doesn't even have a clear structure. It's "all over the place" in the best way ever.
    I think that was the point with WBSS.



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    I need to listen to heartbreaker again when I get a chance. that song been talked about a lot lately



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    Threatened doesn't get the credit it deserves.

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    I remember the first time listening to Morphine when it got to the piano part "relax...this won't hurt you.." just being thrown off guard by the complete 180 degree turn of the song

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    Even though I'm not a fan of She Drives Me Wild, it has to be one of Michael's most creative songs. Instead of using instruments, sounds of car engine, car horns, car door closing was used and I think that is absolute genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    Even though I'm not a fan of She Drives Me Wild, it has to be one of Michael's most creative songs. Instead of using instruments, sounds of car engine, car horns, car door closing was used and I think that is absolute genius.
    This song really had to grow on me. I really did not like it anymore. I truly love the Dangerous album from the beginning to the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggone View Post
    This song really had to grow on me. I really did not like it anymore. I truly love the Dangerous album from the beginning to the end.
    It's the only song from Dangerous that I don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    It's the only song from Dangerous that I don't like.
    Why exactly?
    I love everything about it :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by JichaelMackson View Post
    Why exactly?
    I love everything about it :-P
    I hate the lyrics. I find them really cringe.

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    Great topic

    1. Tabloid Junkie, criminally underrated track. I think if Mike's voice had been more audible in parts perhaps this was single material. The hook is everything. It's a weird kind of song really, because structurally it's textbook Mike (lush harmonies, vocal percussion, strong hook) but it sounds so new fresh and unlike Mike. I love it

    2. Is It Scary, The idea behind this is nothing short of genius lyrically. Mike painting himself as this caricature observing himself through the mirror and then taking that mirror and then facing it toward the listener (mainly the media) and saying look at yourself, do you like what you see or Is It Scary for you baby? Incredible. As a structure it's great as well because the tension is always building and Mike is coming back stronger at every verse

    3. In The Closet, I love this, every time I hear it I find myself smiling because the breaking of the structure is so new and unlike Michael but it feels like a throwback to a harder Don't Stop Til' You Get Enough at the time. It really conveys the message that Michael was trying to stay true to himself but show the audience a more mature side of his artistry.

    4. Morphine, I get why people don't like this but I think it's a haunting masterpiece. Sonically it doesn't sound like Mike but you can feel the soul in it. He bleeds his heart out to the listener but he doesn't do it in a ballad which would come across as pleading instead he doesn't in a thumping heavy sounding rock track and comes across as a cry for help.

    5. In The Back, I hope there is a finished version of this somewhere, because the foundation is so solid and the soundscape created is mesmerizing.

    Honourable mentions, Smooth Criminal, Leave Me Alone, Butterflies, Beautiful Girl, Wanna Be Startin' Something, Stranger In Moscow

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