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    Default Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...e-hull-4166132

    'Offensive' Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts police visit to Hull estate
    Stephen and Teresa have since removed the figure from their front garden

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    Residents of a north Hull estate say “the world’s gone mad” after police received a complaint regarding a Michael Jackson scarecrow outside their house.

    Stephen and Teresa Sayner, of Compass Road, put the effigy of the controversial pop star, outside their house last week as part of a community “scarecrow walk”.

    However, days later officers from Humberside Police knocked on their door following a complaint prompting them to remove it.

    Mr Sayner said: “I can’t believe it, the world has gone mad.

    “What’s annoying is the police can find the time to knock on the door about a scarecrow and they’ve got all this crime going on.

    “Have they got nothing better to do?”

    The scarecrow was dressed in a bright red PVC suit and a dark curly wig.


    Stephen Sayner with the scarecrows displayed outside his house (Image: HullLive)
    Mrs Sayner said when the police showed up she was initially confused. She claims the officer explained the issue was the figure they had chosen to depict.

    She said: “The police came and I asked if everything was okay they said 'yeah, we just want to have a chat with you'.

    "They asked about the scarecrow walk and I said ‘is there a problem with our scarecrow?’ and she said ‘oh yeah – somebody has complained'.

    “I said I could change the colour of the face if that would make it better?

    “She said ‘no, it’s not that, it’s the whole Michael Jackson thing and the red PVC suit'.

    “I explained it’s the actual Thriller suit. There was a sign underneath that said 'thriller'.


    Mr Sayner has replaced the Michael Jackson scarecrow with figures of Village People (Image: HullLive)
    “She said, ‘no, we need it removing.’

    “We were annoyed because everyone in the area had been laughing and joking about it. We took time and effort to do it for the kids.”

    Having taken the Michael Jackson figure down the couple have since created a tableau of Village People performing legendary hit YMCA.

    Mr Sayner said: "I thought, 'they're not beating me'. At the moment, when everyone's feeling fed up and a bit down - it’s a bit of fun isn’t it.

    The scarecrow walk had been set up by local community group Ghost Estate Compass.

    The group’s organiser Mark Robinson has backed the couple and said: “I started a scarecrow walk off last week. I presented it to the community and this couple took the idea on board and it has snowballed.

    “Somebody has just got offended and called the police just to stir something which has really got the community sticking together even more.


    The scarecrows outside the Sayner's house in Compass Street doing the "YMCA" (Image: HullLive)
    “We’d like them to come forward and have a chat with us and tell us why they found it offensive and we can talk it through because there might be situations in the future where this could happen again and we don’t want that.

    “We want to bring the community together not to cause friction.”

    Humberside Police statement
    A Humberside Police spokesperson said: "We understand that, especially at this time, people are coming together and are wanting to bring light-hearted relief to their communities.

    "On Saturday May 23 we did receive a complaint from a local resident who reported they had been offended by a scarecrow on display in a front garden on Compass Road in Hull.

    "As with all reports of this nature we want to make sure we talk to everyone involved to look at a way to resolve any situation amicably.

    "PCSOs discussed the concerns of the person reporting it to us with the householder displaying the scarecrow, who decided to remove it from their garden.

    "There is no further involvement or action that will be taken by police."
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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    People are plain dumb. Can’t believe this shit

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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    They knew what they was doing. that's blackface. if they want it to do a scarecrow of Michael it could of been the wiz or just made the skin dark brown. idiots. goes to show you racism still exist.



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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    ^In fairness the Police said it was the figure that they had chosen to depict that was the reason for the complaint, not that it was racially offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    They knew what they was doing. that's blackface. if they want it to do a scarecrow of Michael it could of been the wiz or just made the skin dark brown. idiots. goes to show you racism still exist.
    That city and all the rural towns and villages around it do 'scarecrow walks' in summer. It's been a local tradition for years (at least 30+).
    They run competitions for the best one, and competitions for kids to find them- they are often hidden or in unexpected places eg high up above shop windows. All the scarecrows are made to look as much like the actual person portrayed as possible (with least amount of money spent on it - it's not a wealthy area).

    I'm really glad that the scarecrow artist a) chose to make a 'Thriller Michael' for the neighbourhood and b) defended it.
    Britain is supposed to be a free country and this image was not offensive in any way. I wonder if the complainant watched and believed LN? Sad if so.

    It's particularly ridiculous since MJ played an ACTUAL scarecrow (made up to look like one) in The Wiz.

    Also - All the scarecrows are made 'as' scarecrows, so they mostly have round faces and button eyes...

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    It's nice what they was trying to do but that's racist and blackface. it was good they took it down.



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    Quote Originally Posted by myosotis View Post
    I wonder if the complainant watched and believed LN? Sad if so.
    I doubt that a lot of people ever actually watched that thing. They picked up their daily tabloid, read the headline and took that at face value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    It's nice what they was trying to do but that's racist and blackface. it was good they took it down.
    MJ wanted Thriller to be entertaining for adults and kids.
    (You could argue the zombies are disrepectful to the dead.... Michael added a disclaimer to the video saying that it didn't reflect his personal convictions.)

    I guess kids shouldn't enjoy these representations of Thriller MJ either... If anyone makes a model of 'Thriller MJ' for a kid's enjoyment, I presume they have to give it a white face now.

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    I'm am from a african descent. search up blackface and tell me that not racist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    I'm am from a african descent. search up blackface and tell me that not racist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface
    Is it racist if a black person impersonates a white person and wears white powder on his/her face to look white?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    Is it racist if a black person impersonates a white person and wears white powder on his/her face to look white?
    The problematic aspect is not the make-up per se, but the fact that blackface performances were a tool of systemic racism. White people were never subject to systemic racism.

    I don’t think that this was the reason for the complaint about the scarecrow, though. Probably more to do with the “controversial pop star” angle, as mentioned in the article.
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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    Yep, we've lost it. We've lost it indeed. Can someone buy me a one-way ticket to the alternate universe? Should be better than the crazy world we live in now.

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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    I think they were just trying to represent the early 80s Michael with the recycling stuff they had at home... No need to spend too much money or time for this stuff, even if the scarecrow's skin was white, red, purple or green.

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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    Black Sambo dressed in a Thiller outfit is racist. Google the image of you are not familiar with the Black Sambo cartoons.

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    Default Re: Michael Jackson scarecrow prompts Police action in Hull, England

    Racist and sickening, making fun of his death too.
    With George Floyd and Trump - is it any wonder Black people are angry.

    This world is so sick and so evil.
    Typical English chavs who think its all a big joke and funny.

    If it helps, Hull is one of the biggest holes in Britain - poor and broken down.

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