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    Thanks very much for this new info.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Ahess/videos - me dancing MJ - many years ago.

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    post trial songs are the most interesting ones imo...
    i mean, just listen to those TWYMMF adlibs during this is it rehearshals:
    https://youtu.be/mwvOyivDHuk?t=155
    (at 2:40min and 3:40min)

    his gritty voice sounded way better than in early 2000s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanGerouS- View Post
    post trial songs are the most interesting ones imo...
    i mean, just listen to those TWYMMF adlibs during this is it rehearshals:
    https://youtu.be/mwvOyivDHuk?t=155
    (at 2:40min and 3:40min)

    his gritty voice sounded way better than in early 2000s.
    He sounds amazing in this I think. Those Ad libs are amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanGerouS- View Post
    post trial songs are the most interesting ones imo...
    i mean, just listen to those TWYMMF adlibs during this is it rehearshals:
    https://youtu.be/mwvOyivDHuk?t=155
    (at 2:40min and 3:40min)

    his gritty voice sounded way better than in early 2000s.
    I've always found it weird that just this song was uploaded, surely they recorded more hahaha. Unless it's those other recordings where MJ isn't performing.

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    Default Re: Post Trial Songs (2005-2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by DanGerouS- View Post
    post trial songs are the most interesting ones imo...
    i mean, just listen to those TWYMMF adlibs during this is it rehearshals:
    https://youtu.be/mwvOyivDHuk?t=155
    (at 2:40min and 3:40min)

    his gritty voice sounded way better than in early 2000s.
    now this is a GEM!
    do you have more?
    also he was having troubles keeping pitch and pushed too hard on that high note on 3:40 but nothing a good warmup wouldn't solve,i need to hear more so let me know if you know anything.
    \
    also this thread is EVERYTHING,the last songs he did are the most intriguing to me so if anyone has any info...

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    Just hopping on to ask if it's been confirmed, then, (from travis3000) that "H2O/Dark Lady" and "Water" are separate songs?
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    Default Re: Post Trial Songs (2005-2009)

    They're separate if I recall correctly.

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    There are fan recordings of every song that did not make This Is It documentary, Not all have been publicly shared with the fan community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    There are fan recordings of every song that did not make This Is It documentary, Not all have been publicly shared with the fan community.
    where can i hear them?
    i dont get why people dont share that stuff what difference would it make to anything

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    Default Re: Post Trial Songs (2005-2009)

    Post Trial songs:

    1. You Are So Beautiful (2005) [Written by MJ during the trial as a thank you to the fans' support. It's unknown if it was ever recorded. Some lyrics were "leaked" but their authenticity is not confirmed yet.]

    2. I Have This Dream (2005/2006) [Written by MJ, David Foster, Carol Bayer Sager after the trial in Bahrain. It was supposed to be a charity single dedicated to the victims of the Katrina hurricane. There was a writing competition and the winner got his version released. I think the writers didn't give credits to MJ and that's why it never came out.]

    3. Bottom Of My Heart/From The Bottom Of My Heart (2005/2006) [I'm sure that an alternative name for "I Have This Dream" because it was recorded around the same time and it's also dedicated to the victims of the Katrina hurricane.]

    4. I'm Dreamin' (2006/?2007?) [The first ever song MJ and will.i.am worked on together when they were in Ireland. It has vocals and will.i.am planned to release it on "willpower" in 2013 but the MJ's estate stopped him.]

    5. The King/Still The King/ I'm Still The King (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. It's about Michael's influence on younger generations of artists but that he is still the King. It was planned to feature artists influenced by MJ like Usher and Ne-Yo. They had never the chance to finish it. It is unknown if Michael ever recorded his vocal parts. will.i.am was unsure at the time if it would make it on the album. will.i.am played some snippets of some of the songs they worked on together and it's known that some of them are "The King".]

    6. The Future/?In The Future? (?2006?/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. A song about environmental issues. Contains a "killer Latin beat". will.i.am described as a "very demanding" song and it "order and demanded people to the dance floor".]

    7. I'm Gonna Miss You/I Will Miss You (2006/?2007?) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. A mid-tempo track inspired by James Brown's death in 2006. It was never completed according to will.i.am.]

    8. Can You (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. Vocals were recorded. But the song isn't finished.]

    9. If We Still Love (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together.]

    10. A Ballad Possibly Featuring John Legend (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. They were some rumors that a ballad with possibly John Legend was going to be recorded in Ireland.]

    11. Hold My Hand (2007) [A duet between MJ and Akon. The song was originally for Akon by he gave it to MJ and the track became a duet between them. But it was leaked the following year in 2008. MJ got very upset and the track wasn't finished at the time. He wanted that song to be the first single for his next album.]

    12. I Was The Loser (2008) [One of the 3 last songs MJ ever recorded full vocals. Originally written in 2003 with little changes here. It's an updated version of the song "I Am A Loser". It was recorded in Bel Air Hotel room in late summer 2008. He only changed the chorus from "I Am A Loser" to "I Was The Loser".]

    13. Best Of Joy (2008/2009) [One of the 3 last songs MJ ever recorded full vocals if not the last one. Originally written and recorded between the 80s and the 90s. It was recorded in the Bel Air Hotel room in late summer 2008. The original idea for the song was pre 1997 and MJ only resang the lyrics. There are some changes in the music between the original and the 2008 version.]

    14. Water (2009) [Apparently written and recorded in early 2009 at the Carolwood house. Only the chorus was recorded which MJ sang in the "This Is It" film. Worked with Neff-U and Michael Prince. The production is complex, with water droplets and a "Stranger in Moscow" aesthetic. And people have described it as "amazing" and "magical."

    15. H2O/(?Dark Lady?) (2007/2008) [I believe it was started with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince, and Neff-U contributed some musical elements. The baseline recalls Queen’s "Under Pressure". the melody has Arabic influences, and beatboxing is prominent throughout. Multiple people said it would’ve been an incredible comeback single for MJ. The vocals are allegedly very unfinished, but there’s enough to be reworked into a "Don’t Matter to Me" type collaboration.

    16. D.I.E/(?Dance Is Entertainment?) (2008/2009) [One of the songs that Neff-U worked on. Some sources are stating that the song was only worked in 2008. Others that it was worked between2008 & 2009 and during the "This Is It" rehearsals. According to a user on the MJJCommunity forums, the song is a rock track. There are some leaker snippets of it but none of them are confirmed real.]

    17. Breathe/River Ripple (2009) [THE last song MJ ever worked on. The vocals were never recorded because the lyrics weren't even written before he died. I little snippet of the composition is online. He prepared this song in the form of a ballad for an African choir to help him in choirs along with his children but I don't know if this is true. It was worked with Deepak Chopra. He suggested that the lyrics would be: "The trees are our lungs, the air is our breath, the rivers and waters are our circulation. The earth is our body".]

    18. Adore You (2008/2009) [Originally written during the "Invincible" sessions. Recorded between 2008 and 2009. Worked with Brad Buxler and Michar Prince.]

    Post trial songs that nothing is known about them:

    19. Boy No
    20. Broken Chair
    21. Rocker
    22. Changes [I am not sure if is post trial era.]
    23. Don't Be Messin' [I am not sure if is post trial era.]
    24. Hollywood [Not related to "Hollywood Tonight" at all.]
    25. Michael's Affirmation
    26. Bang Your Head
    27. Butterfunk
    28. Don't Make Me Stay
    29. For The World
    30. Green Hornet Groove
    31. I Love You More
    32. King Tutankhamun
    33. Lady Of Summer
    34. Light The Way
    35. Lovin' You [Not related to "Loving You" at all or maybe it is a reworked version, I don't know.]
    36. Pajamas
    37. Photographs
    38. Pray For Peace
    39. Silent Spring
    40. Think Twice
    41. Walk Away
    42. You Are There

    Please correct me if I wrote something wrong or if I missed something. Thanks!

    Sources: AwaysThere, U.S. Copyright Office, the book "Man in the Music", and more...
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    Default Re: Post Trial Songs (2005-2009)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobi MJ View Post
    Post Trial songs:

    1. You Are So Beautiful (2005) [Written by MJ during the trial as a thank you to the fans' support. It's unknown if it was ever recorded. Some lyrics were "leaked" but their authenticity is not confirmed yet.]

    2. I Have This Dream (2005/2006) [Written by MJ, David Foster, Carol Bayer Sager after the trial in Bahrain. It was supposed to be a charity single dedicated to the victims of the Katrina hurricane. There was a writing competition and the winner got his version released. I think the writers didn't give credits to MJ and that's why it never came out.]

    3. Bottom Of My Heart/From The Bottom Of My Heart (2005/2006) [I'm sure that an alternative name for "I Have This Dream" because it was recorded around the same time and it's also dedicated to the victims of the Katrina hurricane.]

    4. I'm Dreamin' (2006/?2007?) [The first ever song MJ and will.i.am worked on together when they were in Ireland. It has vocals and will.i.am planned to release it on "willpower" in 2013 but the MJ's estate stopped him.]

    5. The King/Still The King/ I'm Still The King (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. It's about Michael's influence on younger generations of artists but that he is still the King. It was planned to feature artists influenced by MJ like Usher and Ne-Yo. They had never the chance to finish it. It is unknown if Michael ever recorded his vocal parts. will.i.am was unsure at the time if it would make it on the album. will.i.am played some snippets of some of the songs they worked on together and it's known that some of them are "The King".]

    6. The Future/?In The Future? (?2006?/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. A song about environmental issues. Contains a "killer Latin beat". will.i.am described as a "very demanding" song and it "order and demanded people to the dance floor".]

    7. I'm Gonna Miss You/I Will Miss You (2006/?2007?) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. A mid-tempo track inspired by James Brown's death in 2006. It was never completed according to will.i.am.]

    8. Can You (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. Vocals were recorded. But the song isn't finished.]

    9. If We Still Love (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together.]

    10. A Ballad Possibly Featuring John Legend (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. They were some rumors that a ballad with possibly John Legend was going to be recorded in Ireland.]

    11. Hold My Hand (2007) [A duet between MJ and Akon. The song was originally for Akon by he gave it to MJ and the track became a duet between them. But it was leaked the following year in 2008. MJ got very upset and the track wasn't finished at the time. He wanted that song to be the first single for his next album.]

    12. I Was The Loser (2008) [One of the 3 last songs MJ ever recorded full vocals. Originally written in 2003 with little changes here. It's an updated version of the song "I Am A Loser". It was recorded in Bel Air Hotel room in late summer 2008. He only changed the chorus from "I Am A Loser" to "I Was The Loser".]

    13. Best Of Joy (2008/2009) [One of the 3 last songs MJ ever recorded full vocals if not the last one. Originally written and recorded between the 80s and the 90s. It was recorded in the Bel Air Hotel room in late summer 2008. The original idea for the song was pre 1997 and MJ only resang the lyrics. There are some changes in the music between the original and the 2008 version.]

    14. Water (2009) [Apparently written and recorded in early 2009 at the Carolwood house. Only the chorus was recorded which MJ sang in the "This Is It" film. Worked with Neff-U and Michael Prince. The production is complex, with water droplets and a "Stranger in Moscow" aesthetic. And people have described it as "amazing" and "magical."

    15. H2O/(?Dark Lady?) (2007/2008) [I believe it was started with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince, and Neff-U contributed some musical elements. The baseline recalls Queen’s "Under Pressure". the melody has Arabic influences, and beatboxing is prominent throughout. Multiple people said it would’ve been an incredible comeback single for MJ. The vocals are allegedly very unfinished, but there’s enough to be reworked into a "Don’t Matter to Me" type collaboration.

    16. D.I.E/(?Dance Is Entertainment?) (2008/2009) [One of the songs that Neff-U worked on. Some sources are stating that the song was only worked in 2008. Others that it was worked between2008 & 2009 and during the "This Is It" rehearsals. According to a user on the MJJCommunity forums, the song is a rock track. There are some leaker snippets of it but none of them are confirmed real.]

    17. Breathe/River Ripple (2009) [THE last song MJ ever worked on. The vocals were never recorded because the lyrics weren't even written before he died. I little snippet of the composition is online. He prepared this song in the form of a ballad for an African choir to help him in choirs along with his children but I don't know if this is true. It was worked with Deepak Chopra. He suggested that the lyrics would be: "The trees are our lungs, the air is our breath, the rivers and waters are our circulation. The earth is our body".]

    18. Adore You (2008/2009) [Originally written during the "Invincible" sessions. Recorded between 2008 and 2009. Worked with Brad Buxler and Michar Prince.]

    Post trial songs that nothing is known about them:

    19. Boy No
    20. Broken Chair
    21. Rocker
    22. Changes [I am not sure if is post trial era.]
    23. Don't Be Messin' [I am not sure if is post trial era.]
    24. Hollywood [Not related to "Hollywood Tonight" at all.]
    25. Michael's Affirmation
    26. Bang Your Head
    27. Butterfunk
    28. Don't Make Me Stay
    29. For The World
    30. Green Hornet Groove
    31. I Love You More
    32. King Tutankhamun
    33. Lady Of Summer
    34. Light The Way
    35. Lovin' You [Not related to "Loving You" at all or maybe it is a reworked version, I don't know.]
    36. Pajamas
    37. Photographs
    38. Pray For Peace
    39. Silent Spring
    40. Think Twice
    41. Walk Away
    42. You Are There

    Please correct me if I wrote something wrong or if I missed something. Thanks!

    Sources: AwaysThere, U.S. Copyright Office, the book "Man in the Music", and more...
    I doubt we will hear anything with John Legend. Remember he believes the liars. No thanks John.

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    Where are we getting that "Hollywood" and Hollywood Tonight are not the same song?

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    Default Re: Post Trial Songs (2005-2009)

    ^^^

    Truth is we know nothing - but we assume and guess a lot.

    BUT - AlwaysThere has put together many information from reliable sources - so his guesses are the most reliable IMO - and he has quite many information about different songs - and the state of completion.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Ahess/videos - me dancing MJ - many years ago.

    I would be really glad if you rated or/and commented the videos. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobi MJ View Post
    Post Trial songs:

    10. A Ballad Possibly Featuring John Legend (2006/2007) [Another of the songs that MJ and will.i.am worked on together. They were some rumors that a ballad with possibly John Legend was going to be recorded in Ireland.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smooth72 View Post
    I doubt we will hear anything with John Legend. Remember he believes the liars. No thanks John.
    Rolling Stone magazine reported in 2007 that John Legend just wrote one song that he submitted to Michael Jackson for inclusion on the new album that he was working on (with will.i.am) at that time.

    Michael Jackson apparently did not record vocals on that song because will.i.am never mentioned that song as a vocally complete (or nearly complete) track.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobi MJ View Post
    Post trial songs that nothing is known about them:

    24. Hollywood [Not related to "Hollywood Tonight" at all.]
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothGangsta View Post
    Where are we getting that "Hollywood" and Hollywood Tonight are not the same song?
    ‘Hollywood Tonight’ is an already released song, which was co-written in 1999 by three different men: Michael Jackson, Brad Buxer, and Teddy Riley.

    Michael Jackson kept recording ‘Hollywood Tonight’ over the next ten years, and the last recording session of it took place in October (2008).

    But some sources suggest that there is also the ‘Hollywood’ song, totally unrelated to the ‘Hollywood Tonight’ song.

    According to these sources, ‘Hollywood’ (a still unheard track) was written solely by Michael Jackson in 2000, he recorded it in the same year (in 2000), and some years later (in 2006) he re-worked it for inclusion on his comeback album.

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    what do we know about RedOne's songs? except from slave to the rhythm ?
    i never seen his name pop up in unreleased discussions

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