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    Default Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    I've just been watching some old History shows and am actually pretty impressed that when he does lip sync he does so very well.

    This enables him to put on a show as though you were watching a live movie. I do believe though, that only a song/dance act could get away with it these days!

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    This is going to be a very short thread :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by JichaelMackson View Post
    This is going to be a very short thread :-P
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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    For the majority of his fans, there was no positive side to his lip-sync during the HIStory Tour.

    With the exception of ‘Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'’, ‘The Jackson 5 Medley’, the brief ‘In The Closet’ spoken part and some live ad-libs here and there, he lip-synced all the other songs during that tour, which is inexcusable when you pay in order to attend and watch a live concert.

    Also, his lip-sync on that tour was too obvious and annoying (especially in ballads/mid-tempo songs), and it even made him at times look embarrassed on stage when, for example, he was trying to cover his mouth with his hands, or with his long hair, or even with his body posture by leaning forward while lip-syncing.

    If the HIStory Tour happened today with the same amount of lip-sync, it would have been a public/media disaster for him, in terms of unfavourable press headlines (such as, the ‘King Of Lip-Sync’ headline), audience demanding ticket refunds, etc.

    The argument that he had to lip-sync during the HIStory Tour because he was also dancing a lot at the same time is not a valid one, because few years earlier he proved during the Dangerous Tour that he could dance a lot and sing live at the same time (more than half of the performed songs of the Dangerous Tour were sung live, and many of them were energetic songs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by threatened2020 View Post
    I've just been watching some old History shows and am actually pretty impressed that when he does lip sync he does so very well.

    This enables him to put on a show as though you were watching a live movie. I do believe though, that only a song/dance act could get away with it these days!
    I agree. Michael's dancing was next level in some of the HIStory Tour concerts and most of the time, his lip-synching wasn't noticeable at all, in my opinion. Snapshots of the audiences showed that they didn't seem to care much.......lots of screaming was going on, of course. As you point out, he was quite good at it, most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    For the majority of his fans, there was no positive side to his lip-sync during the HIStory Tour.

    With the exception of ‘Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'’, ‘The Jackson 5 Medley’, the brief ‘In The Closet’ spoken part and some live ad-libs here and there, he lip-synced all the other songs during that tour, which is inexcusable when you pay in order to attend and watch a live concert.

    Also, his lip-sync on that tour was too obvious and annoying (especially in ballads/mid-tempo songs), and it even made him at times look embarrassed on stage when, for example, he was trying to cover his mouth with his hands, or with his long hair, or even with his body posture by leaning forward while lip-syncing.

    If the HIStory Tour happened today with the same amount of lip-sync, it would have been a public/media disaster for him, in terms of unfavourable press headlines (such as, the ‘King Of Lip-Sync’ headline), audience demanding ticket refunds, etc.

    The argument that he had to lip-sync during the HIStory Tour because he was also dancing a lot at the same time is not a valid one, because few years earlier he proved during the Dangerous Tour that he could dance a lot and sing live at the same time (more than half of the performed songs of the Dangerous Tour were sung live, and many of them were energetic songs).
    Did you go to a HIStory concert?

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    The lip syncing on the BAD Tour was fine, because back then Michael's live vocals pretty much matched his album vocals. So the lip syncing wasn't obvious.

    Dangerous Tours lip syncing was a little more obvious, but that tour still had enough live vocals to make up for that.

    HIStory Tours lip syncing was just embarrassing and beyond obvious.

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post

    If the HIStory Tour happened today with the same amount of lip-sync, it would have been a public/media disaster for him, in terms of unfavourable press headlines (such as, the ‘King Of Lip-Sync’ headline), audience demanding ticket refunds, etc.
    It wouldn't have been. Today, people would feel fortunate that they get to see a legend in concert and not care about whether he is actually singing or not.

    Lip-syncing is a common thing in pop music, even nowadays. The only difference is that artists re-record their vocals for tours so that they don't sound identical to the record and not everybody notices that they are indeed lip-syncing.

    Plus, a lot of people who attended the HIStory Tour were aware of the fact that he was lip-syncing, but didn't care. So were a lot of the journalists who attended the shows.

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    This thread should be fun..

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    Brace yourselves for a thread full of debate...

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    I agree. Michael's dancing was next level in some of the HIStory Tour concerts and most of the time, his lip-synching wasn't noticeable at all, in my opinion. Snapshots of the audiences showed that they didn't seem to care much............lots of screaming was going on, of course. As you point out, he was quite good at it, most of the time.
    Maybe most of the audience didn't know he was lip-syncing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus123 View Post
    Maybe most of the audience didn't know he was lip-syncing.
    They did, though without much care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    The lip syncing on the BAD Tour was fine, because back then Michael's live vocals pretty much matched his album vocals. So the lip syncing wasn't obvious.

    Dangerous Tours lip syncing was a little more obvious, but that tour still had enough live vocals to make up for that.

    HIStory Tours lip syncing was just embarrassing and beyond obvious.
    Agreed, pair that with Michael's general energy and enthusiasm just not being up there with his previous efforts and you have why I'm not really interested in watching HIStory concerts anymore.

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    Default Re: Lip Sync/Miming - the positive side :)

    I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched a HIStory show.
    It's not that I dislike the tour, it just doesn't feel like a Michael show to me. The tour wasn't really grand like maybe the Dangerous Tour and it doesn't have the soul of the Bad tour, it just feels a bit lifeless to me

    With that being said there are moments I love on the tour, Stranger In Moscow, the end dance of Billie Jean, WBBS especially the James Brown stuff and seeing In The Closet live was cool

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