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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    The band's sound is the biggest negative for me. The organic sound of the Triumph and prior tours was set aside and replaced with synths that, at that stage, were just not well-suited for live shows yet (I think this affected the Bad and Dangerous tours negatively too). Some of the songs sound a bit lackluster in terms of performance as well. I do think that a properly mixed Victory Tour show could make me appreciate it more, the audio recordings we have are all very flat or low quality. The same goes for the visuals: we just do not have a quality recording like we have of the later tours.

    The setlist is okay but slightly underwhelming given the possibilities they had (though this is an unfortunate constant for most of MJ's tours..). I mean, imagine if they'd have performed songs like PYT or Baby Be Mine...

    I do really like the stage with its multi-colored lights and MJ's clothing was among the best of his career. And while I think he became a better performer on the Bad Tour, this era has many unique and excellent performance aspects too. The fact that it was the last tour where he fully sang live is also a major plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus123 View Post
    I would definitely buy Victory Tour concert if they released it on DVD or Blu-Ray.
    Me too. they release it on VHS back in the day. so i would love to see it HQ also. even though michael didn't want to do this tour. this was a awesome tour to see him on stage. he didn't want to do it but he still gave us a show. he was great on that stage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Me too. they release it on VHS back in the day. so i would love to see it HQ also. even though michael didn't want to do this tour. this was a awesome tour to see him on stage. he didn't want to do it but he still gave us a show. he was great on that stage.
    they never released it on VHS.

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    Like everyone saying most people went to go see michael. he gave us a show even though he didn't want to do it. my mom says the samething she couldn't go to the concert because they didn't have seating at the time. but if she could have she would prefer to go to this tour just to see mike. not only that she would prefer to see his early tours as well like density and triumph.

    my mom loves michael regards but she really into the off the wall and thriller era. i love bad and thriller era. my mom don't do social media but i like to always tell people her opinions about michael etc with mines. mostly my opinions are almost the same as her.

    i have some of her genes.



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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post
    they never released it on VHS.
    yes it was. there proof on youtube.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    yes it was. there proof on youtube.
    If there is then that VHS in unofficial.

    I hope they release one of the concerts seen in this video:

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    it's probably unofficial but it's pretty cool someone got it on tape. it's probably gonna be the only victory tour we see.




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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    it's probably unofficial but it's pretty cool someone got it on tape. it's probably gonna be the only victory tour we see.

    This was leaked back during the Great Leaks of 2015, a couple of years after a LQ version was leaked by Steve(001). There are also Kansas City (incomplete) and Dallas online as well, but the quality on both are not as good as Toronto's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus123 View Post
    I hope they release one of the concerts seen in this video:
    If MTV show this after he pass i'm pretty sure there more stuff out there. they did show alot rare stuff after he pass. i'm not sure where all that stuff is now. but i know they probably exist. somewhere....



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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    For me the Victory Tour is the perfect genesis of the Bad Tour, everything Mike was disappointed with on the Victory Tour was greatly improved in 1987

    Just going off the Toronto show, there's loads of little things I find annoying about it, the lack of backing dancers for Beat It, MJ wearing his shades at the start of Beat It, Marlon copying all of Mike's moves after he did them, the noise Marlon makes during songs like the start of Heartbreak Hotel, how ordinary and lifeless Human Nature sounded (compare it to any show in 87 and its night and day)

    I think it's telling Mike didn't like the tour and said so in his autobiography, I think he said he was unsatisfied with it as a whole, he was outvoted on tons of stuff and he was disappointed in his own performance overall. I think to Michael's credit, he perfected his stage presence from here, he looks so much more polished and in control during the Bad tour. I think he really discovered the power of movement from here on, he knew when to do something extremely fast (but still smooth) and then when to slow it right down to grab the audience's attention ad reengage them. So for that I'm thankful to the Victory Tour

    I do love the adlib from the Toronto show during Rock With You, "I put it in my pocket girl", I wish he would have done that a couple of times on the Bad Tour

    I will say, I'm glad the Toronto show leaked for those who wanted to see a Victory Show, I do come across as harsh on the show but it was great to see it and I'm grateful it was shared
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    yes it was. there proof on youtube.
    Nope.. you're talking about Leaks.
    A full victory concert never was released on VHS nor on DVD.

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Well it felt like a whole show to me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    I will say, I'm glad the Toronto show leaked for those who wanted to see a Victory Show, I do come across as harsh on the show but it was great to see it and I'm grateful it was shared
    I agree. i'm grateful for it. cause it probably the only victory tour we are ever getting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Well it felt like a whole show to me.
    what exactly are you referring to? Toronto 84? It's full, yes. But it's not released officially. It just leaked in 2015.
    Leak & Release is two different things.

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    What's differences? it's full but it not from the estate etc.



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