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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    What's differences? it's full but it not from the estate etc.
    The difference is that a release is something that was planned officially for a release to buy.
    A leak is simply what it sounds like. Someone (sometimes Label or Studio-Worker) get something in their hands (or even stole it) and leaking it to the internet or giving it to wrong people who then leaking stuff. It's not only happening with concerts. It happens even with studio songs (not only MJ).
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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    oh okay



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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    For me the Victory Tour is the perfect genesis of the Bad Tour, everything Mike was disappointed on the Victory Tour was greatly improved in 1987

    Just going the Toronto show, there's loads of little things I find annoying about it, the lack of backing dancers for Beat It, MJ wearing his shades at the start of Beat It, Marlon copying all of Mike's moves after he did them, the noise Marlon makes during songs like the start of Heartbreak Hotel, how ordinary and lifeless Human Nature sounded (compare it to any show in 87 and its night and day)

    I think it's telling Mike didn't like the tour and said so in his autobiography, I think he said he was unsatisfied with it as a whole, he was outvoted on tons of stuff and he was disappointed in his own performance overall. I think to Michael's credit, he perfected his stage presence from here, he looks so much more polished and in control during the Bad tour. I think he really discovered the power of movement from here on, he knew when to do something extremely fast (but still smooth) and then when to slow it right down to grab the audience's attention ad reengage them. So for that I'm thankful to the Victory Tour

    I do love the adlib from the Toronto show during Rock With You, "I put it in my pocket girl", I wish he would have done that a couple of times on the Bad Tour

    I will say, I'm glad the Toronto show leaked for those who wanted to see a Victory Show, I do come across as harsh on the show but it was great to see it and I'm grateful it was shared
    Excellently put my friend! I completely agree. For me the saving grace and the highlight of the tour is Michaels vocals. Imo this is the best he has ever sounded singing his songs from thriller. It’s just a pity that the sound couldn’t be on that level as well. I also agree with you about the “put it in the pocket”. I always look forward to that part when I’m watching triumph and victory concerts. He should have kept it.

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    I have to check some footage I don't seem to recall the dancing being that different than the bad tour.
    Anyway from what I remember I loved every bit of it, including the costumes and stage design. As for the sound I don't have a fixed opinion about it as every footage I saw has bad audio sound.
    Not an unimportant factor is when I think of Michael Jackson and I imagine his looks I think about the Triumph/Victory tour as his defining most iconic look.
    My only downside for the tour is that it was too similar to the Triumph tour but that is probably his best so it's only a small downside.
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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Quote Originally Posted by JichaelMackson View Post
    I have to check some footage I don't seem to recall the dancing being that different than the bad tour.
    its way different.

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Despite what I said earlier on what I think about the tour in general, I'm very glad Toronto leaked. Seeing MJ in your own city is the best. Since that was his last time coming here it just means that much more to me. Vocals are a big highlight for this tour for sure. If they do release it I hope they choose NY or Chicago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    Since I have all of Jermaine's albums (except the 2012 standards one) I have no problem with his part.
    Same! Sometimes I even watch the Victory Tour just to see his part Everytime I want to listen to Let's get serious, that's what I watch. I prefer the live version of that song.

    Also, I can't get enough of that amazing performance of This Place Hotel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontheline View Post
    Also, I can't get enough of that amazing performance of This Place Hotel.
    One of my favorite performances. This was uploaded on TheJacksonsVEVO Youtube channel few years ago but it was removed:

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Who owns that channel?



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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Who owns that channel?
    It was on this channel I think. It seems to be their official VEVO channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/TheJacksonsVEVO/featured

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vevo

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    I wonder do the MJ estate owns it or some other place they uploading stuff i'm pretty sure there alot. and for them deleted it too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus123 View Post
    One of my favorite performances. This was uploaded on TheJacksonsVEVO Youtube channel few years ago but it was removed:
    Man.. One thing I really love about the Victory tour is Michael's confidence. He was really on top of the world here and it's just something extra that oozes out from him during this tour. The Thriller era was awesome. Something that the world will never experience again.

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    Default Re: Why the general disinterest for the Victory tour around here?

    Either that or it was just for the show because he really didn't want to do it. but i agree. awesome tour.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontheline View Post
    Same! Sometimes I even watch the Victory Tour just to see his part Everytime I want to listen to Let's get serious, that's what I watch. I prefer the live version of that song.
    Have you heard the Spanish version?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    Have you heard the Spanish version?

    I hadn't seen it before. it's actually nice, thank you.

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