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    These are a few of the more well known albums:

    Al B. Sure! ~ In Effect Mode
    Guy ~ Guy
    Guy ~ The Future
    Bell Biv DeVoe ~ Poison
    Bobby Brown ~ Don' Be Cruel
    Bobby Brown ~ Bobby
    New Edition ~ Heartbreak
    Keith Sweat ~ Make It Last Forever
    Tony! Toni! Toné ~ The Revival
    Tevin Campbell ~ T.E.V.I.N.
    Damian Dame ~ Damian Dame
    Kool Moe Dee ‎~ How Ya Like Me Now
    Kool Moe Dee ‎~ Knowledge Is King
    Color Me Badd ~ C.M.B.
    Heavy D. & The Boyz ‎~ Big Tyme
    Troop ~ Troop
    Troop ~ Attitude
    (this has the remake of the Jackson 5's All I Do Is Think Of You)
    Levert ‎– Just Coolin'
    Wrecks-N-Effect ~ Wrecks-N-Effect
    Sheena Easton ~ The Lover In Me
    Babyface ~ Tender Lover
    TLC ~ Ooooooohhh... On The TLC Tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    Bell Biv DeVoe ~ Poison
    that was one of michael favorite songs. so it's not surprising he was inspire from it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    that was one of michael favorite songs. so it's not surprising he was inspire from it.
    It was President Obama's too. He invited them to the White House to perform it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    It was President Obama's too. He invited them to the White House to perform it.

    very cool. hahaha



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    Dangerous wins a hundred times...

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    Default Re: Albums Dangerous vs Rhythm Nation 1814

    Quote Originally Posted by Lotta View Post
    Dangerous wins a hundred times...
    Wins what? It's not a New Jack Swing album. The OP doesn't ask which is a better as an album, but asks why Rhythm Nation is given more props as a New Jack Swing album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    I already answered that. Why would Dangerous get more recognition as a New Jack Swing album over Janet's, when it is not a New Jack Swing album? It's an album with some NJS songs on it. I'd say Bobby Brown's Don't Be Cruel album would qualify more than Janet's or Mike's album. It's the biggest selling album by an actual New Jack Swing artist, not an act dabbling in it. It's kinda forgotten today because of Bobby's later tabloid stories and his marriage to Whitney Houston, but he was huge back then. His album was selling more in the USA than Mike, Prince, George Michael, Madonna, etc. People got hits just because Bobby was on their song like Glenn Medeiros, similar to Rockwell's Somebody's Watching Me. Bobby wasn't invited to do the theme song for Ghostbusters 2 for nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    Wins what? It's not a New Jack Swing album. The OP doesn't ask which is a better as an album, but asks why Rhythm Nation is given more props as a New Jack Swing album.
    The misconception among many fans that ‘Dangerous’ is a new jack swing album comes also from the fact that this album has carried the description as being the most successful new jack swing album of all time.

    For example, American mixing engineer Dave Pensado described the ‘Dangerous’ album as the largest-selling new jack swing record ever (in the Episode with Teddy Riley as a guest).

    There were also music reviews of that album (at the time right after its release) that described it as a new jack swing album.

    But even more recent music articles still have described the 'Dangerous' album as the most successful new jack swing album of all time (such as, the one written in 2008 by Kelley L. Carter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    The misconception among many fans that ‘Dangerous’ is a new jack swing album comes also from the fact that this album has carried the description as being the most successful new jack swing album of all time.

    For example, American mixing engineer Dave Pensado described the ‘Dangerous’ album as the largest-selling new jack swing record ever (in the Episode with Teddy Riley as a guest).

    There were also music reviews of that album (at the time right after its release) that described it as a new jack swing album.

    But even more recent music articles still have described the 'Dangerous' album as the most successful new jack swing album of all time (such as, the one written in 2008 by Kelley L. Carter).
    The sales are because it is a Michael Jackson album, so it was promoted worldwide where most actual NJS records didn't get that. New Jack Swing's popularity was primarily in the USA. Also because it's a Michael Jackson album, it continued to sell over the decades since it was first released, which probably didn't happen with Bobby Brown's records. Most of the other NJS albums pretty much just sold at the time. A lot of the albums are out of print, and many NJS artists may only have a greatest hits album out today. I don't think NJS has the same amount of nostalgia as disco either.

    From what I've seen, the overseas audience tend to praise songs like Who Is It & Black Or White (
    and even Blood On The Dance Floor, which sounds the least like a NJS song) over some of the NJS songs on Dangerous. They aren't really fans of New Jack Swing, they're Michael Jackson fans. If Mike had not recorded the New Jack Swing songs, a lot of the international audience probably wouldn't have heard NJS. It's like how many of the people who bought Graceland by Paul Simon buy records from artists in Africa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    The sales are because it is a Michael Jackson album, so it was promoted worldwide where most actual NJS records didn't get that. New Jack Swing's popularity was primarily in the USA. Also because it's a Michael Jackson album, it continued to sell over the decades since it was first released, which probably didn't happen with Bobby Brown's records. Most of the other NJS albums pretty much just sold at the time. A lot of the albums are out of print, and many NJS artists may only have a greatest hits album out today. I don't think NJS has the same amount of nostalgia as disco either.

    From what I've seen, the overseas audience tend to praise songs like Who Is It & Black Or White (
    and even Blood On The Dance Floor, which sounds the least like a NJS song) over some of the NJS songs on Dangerous. They aren't really fans of New Jack Swing, they're Michael Jackson fans. If Mike had not recorded the New Jack Swing songs, a lot of the international audience probably wouldn't have heard NJS. It's like how many of the people who bought Graceland by Paul Simon buy records from artists in Africa?
    Apart from the ‘Dangerous’ album itself, it appears that a major factor for the popularization of the new jack swing genre by Michael Jackson to the international audience was these three music videos that he released: ‘Remember The Time’, ‘In The Closet’, and ‘Jam’.

    These three music videos during that period were being played incessantly and nearly in every corner of the world (via various music TV channels).

    And it was an era when Sony’s policy was to promote extravagantly its big artists through such grandiose music videos with an international TV exposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Apart from the ‘Dangerous’ album itself, it appears that a major factor for the popularization of the new jack swing genre by Michael Jackson to the international audience was these three music videos that he released: ‘Remember The Time’, ‘In The Closet’, and ‘Jam’.

    These three music videos during that period were being played incessantly and nearly in every corner of the world (via various music TV channels).
    This is what I was saying. By the time the Dangerous album was released, NJS was several years old in the USA and it's popularity was beginning to go out. If the international audience was just hearing NJS in 1992 or late 1991, that means it didn't really reach much outside of the USA before Mike did it. It seems non-American artists heard it because they recorded it like Boy George & Sheena Easton. Their NJS records came out before Dangerous. Teddy Riley gives Boy George a shout out on the 1989 Wreckx-N-Effect song New Jack Swing.



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    Default Re: Albums Dangerous vs Rhythm Nation 1814

    dangerous is good work and inspiration, it was great as a double LP at the time

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