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    Default Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    Are there any subtle changes that Michael made during a tour that you've picked up on that other people might not have? This could could be anything from costumes, dancing, lightning, singing, how the band plays etc.


    One that sticks out to me is the BAD Tour 1988 silver costume. In the early shows you'll see that the costume has no zipper, but then on the later shows the zipper was added.

    Early shows without the zipper


    Later shows with the zipper

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    Oh wow, I never noticed the change in that silver shirt. Good observation. I wonder why the stage on the Dangerous Tour was different in concerts after July (until it returned in Romania)? It used to rise and descend in Thriller, Billie Jean, and Heal The World, and then it was a normal stage. Also, when watching the show in Olso and then the one in Copenhagen, the microphone’s color transforms from purple to white. It seems that the purple microphone was used until the Oslo show and a white one was used in shows after that.

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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

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    michael danced different at Rock With You on the first shows of the bad tour 1988 (see kansas). At the end of the of the second verse after michael sings
    "when you feel that beat". Then there is always that little drum solo. He danced more like in 87 shows.
    1:47




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    On the 1988/89 leg of the bad tour they changed a little part of "Heartbreak Hotel".
    There is a little break after he sings "live and sin". You hear hear only two piano notes and then the band comes back in. On the 1987 leg they simply didn't do that break.
    compare it
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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    I could be wrong, but the shoes he uses do to the Smooth Criminal lean on the HIStory Tour looks different to the shoes he used on the Dangerous Tour. The HIStory Tour shoes look less bulky. Which probably made it easier for him to dance in.

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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post

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    On the 1988/89 leg of the bad tour they changed a little part of "Heartbreak Hotel".
    There is a little break after he sings "live and sin". You hear hear only two piano notes and then the band comes back in. On the 1987 leg they simply didn't do that break.
    compare it
    They inserted a similar break towards the end of Jam during the '93 leg of the Dangerous Tour, which had not been there in '92. They kept that in for Brunei too, and it was rehearsed that way for This Is It as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCav View Post
    They inserted a similar break towards the end of Jam during the '93 leg of the Dangerous Tour, which had not been there in '92. They kept that in for Brunei too, and it was rehearsed that way for This Is It as well.
    That's something I didn't pay attention to. Gonna watch the Royal Brunei performance to see

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    During the '93 leg of the Dangerous Tour Michael Jackson's silver satin jacket (used during JAM) was replaced by the iconic golden belts one. However, not only the colors have changed. The right sleeve of the jacket was cut off because Michael was having a hard time with the long sleeve covering his white armbrace.

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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    Michael had different kind of shoes during some concerts in 1996:


    The heel was metallic color. You can see it clearly when he does the toe stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Effect View Post
    Oh wow, I never noticed the change in that silver shirt. Good observation. I wonder why the stage on the Dangerous Tour was different in concerts after July (until it returned in Romania)? It used to rise and descend in Thriller, Billie Jean, and Heal The World, and then it was a normal stage. Also, when watching the show in Olso and then the one in Copenhagen, the microphone’s color transforms from purple to white. It seems that the purple microphone was used until the Oslo show and a white one was used in shows after that.
    It possible that they had two stages during the tour and only one of them had the moving stage. When they are setting up a show in one city the other crew is en route to other city at the same time.
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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    Not much of a subtle change, but there are two different versions of the 1992 Jam costume




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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    The belts and straps on his pants. In Tokyo shows you see Michael switches them from time to time, in Brisbane, he has both of them. In the U.S. shows all the way to the first show in Rotterdam he uses belts and from the next Rotterdam show until the Bad Tour Finale in L.A. he uses straps.

    Tokyo 87’ (Bad Tour Premiere)


    Yokohama 87’


    Brisbane 87’


    Rome 88’


    Los Angeles 89’
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus123 View Post
    It possible that they had two stages during the tour and only one of them had the moving stage. When they are setting up a show in one city the other crew is en route to other city at the same time.
    When watching the concert in Bremen, the stage is clearly not the moving type used in the earlier June/July shows in Munich, Cologne, Oslo, Copenhagen, etc. It is as if the moving stage was no longer in function in the shows in August and September until it returned in Romania and Japan. There are some amateur shots of these later shows (Frankfurt, Barcelona, Oviedo, Madrid, etc.), where the stage is shown to not be the moving type.

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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    The Dangerous Tour concert in Toulouse, France in mid September 1992 did have that moving stage as it can be seen in the amateur clip.
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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    The lead-in to the guitar section during TDCAU is slightly different when comparing the 1996 (including Hawaii) and 1997 legs of the HIStory tour.

    1996:



    1997:

    Every day create your history.

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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    Not much of a tour change, but I just noticed that in Brisbane 87, the black jacket Michael wore in Bad (with Stevie Wonder) is the one he wore in WBSS in Australia 87 and the 88 leg. Oh and what was up with the outfit worn for Bad in Japan 87? 88 and 89 leg had almost the full costume with the buckles and everything

    WBSS Brisbane:



    Bad Brisbane:



    WBSS Rome:


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    Default Re: Subtle changes during tours that you've spotted

    Quote Originally Posted by Snek View Post
    The lead-in to the guitar section during TDCAU is slightly different when comparing the 1996 (including Hawaii) and 1997 legs of the HIStory tour.
    never noticed that!

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