Cascio Tracks at Least Written by MJ?

[Dan]

Hi all just a quick question, we all know the Cascio Tracks do not feature Michael Jackson on vocals, but were any of the tracks at least written by Michael or is it all just completely fabricated?

Thanks,

~Dan~

[dam2040]

No evidence MJ was ever remotely involved with them.

[Dan]

No evidence MJ was ever remotely involved with them.

Thank you

[Mikky Dee]

No evidence MJ was ever remotely involved with them.

Do you have a source - a premise of some kind - or is this an opinion, because we could also easily say there's no evidence that he wasn't involved. Just playing devil's advocate.

[Maxym]

Usually, you have to prove that something exists, you can't prove that something doesn't exist.

So you can't prove that he wasn't involved, you can only say that there is no proof that he was involved, unless someone comes up with such proofs.

[SmoothGangsta]

Most of them didn't even exist until after MJ had died.

[king_of_style]

I think it's impossible to know, but if written lyrics or song notes in Michael's handwriting concerning these tracks existed, the Cascios would've pulled them out years ago. And honestly that would have shut down the discussion for most people -- in the mind of the average listener, if MJ actually wrote the lyrics, it can't be that much of a stretch that it actually is his voice on the tracks. But the Cascios (as far as I know) haven't mentioned seeing his written lyrics in a notebook or something, and the Estate either hasn't looked or has been unsuccessful in finding anything. And just like the audio outtakes which were supposedly accidentally deleted, this evidence that could 100% settle the case for authenticity is missing.

It's certainly possible that MJ wrote them (and the optimist in me would rather think that than believe the Estate screwed up this badly in letting pass complete and utter forgeries) but I don't think it's knowable right now and not particularly likely. Like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure we would've seen any hand-written lyrics by now.

[Pentum]

You will know for sure soon

[AlwaysThere]

Well, Jason Malachi sings the “Heaven Can Wait” chorus in “Water,” “Ready 2 Win” reuses the “On the Line” melody, and “All Right” samples the chord progression and drum pattern from “Stranger in Moscow.” So, technically, MJ was somewhat involved in the Cascio tracks, yeah.

[Hess]

Well, Jason Malachi sings the “Heaven Can Wait” chorus in “Water,” “Ready 2 Win” reuses the “On the Line” melody, and “All Right” samples the chord progression and drum pattern from “Stranger in Moscow.” So, technically, MJ was somewhat involved in the Cascio tracks, yeah.

Good one

[king_of_style]

Well, Jason Malachi sings the “Heaven Can Wait” chorus in “Water,” “Ready 2 Win” reuses the “On the Line” melody, and “All Right” samples the chord progression and drum pattern from “Stranger in Moscow.” So, technically, MJ was somewhat involved in the Cascio tracks, yeah.

That and the "Keep Your Head Up" demo samples "Earth Song" near the end. All these samplings are inexplicable to me -- if you want to pass these off as authentic MJ tracks, why would you sample his previous work? When did MJ and his collaborators ever not just make whole new compositions?

[SmoothCriminal1995]

I'm not speaking with any authority on this but I'd guess not
I doubt MJ would become not only a bad singer over night but also a bad songwriter as well

Here's something to think about if you next listen to those songs. Janet sampled Michael's music more than Mike sampled himself in his entire career
Case in point Janet Jackson Runaway, the du du du, sound running throughout that song is a sampled and sped up version of MJ from the adlibs of Remember The Time, du du du (how ever you'd write that)
The point I make is Michael would create not re-create, which is the feeling I get when I heard these tracks. I'm extremely doubtful he would sample himself on nearly every one of his new songs, ironically enough when he sounds nothing like himself

By sample himself, I don't mean the sampled "hee hee" and aow's, I'm talking about ths sampled beats, the sampled lyrics, even the sampled phrasing at times

[king_of_style]

I'm not speaking with any authority on this but I'd guess not
I doubt MJ would become not only a bad singer over night but also a bad songwriter as well

I think I read this somewhere on this forum, but someone once said: "If it really is Michael singing on these tracks, they are hands-down the worst vocals and the worst song-writing of his career."