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    Guys... this month I'm sorry to say is now the worst, as you know we've (I've) been hit by the Covid impact, it's as simple as this I don't have the balance of the bar in my bank to pay for this months server, so if it's not there they will not be able to take payment, then they will give me 7 days grace of which the lights then go out and MJJC is no more...

    I can't plead enough, I have been covering balances and all of it for almost 20 years, in my hour of need I calling upon you...

    This is not a perminant thing, next month hopfully will be different for me...

    So its either we scrape together $54 as a community or there will not be one.

    Sorry guys but atm it is as simple as that. :cry:

    I know you love this community as do I, let's not see it die...
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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    In my case I'm too young to have a debit card to donate to the Patreon directly...but I will ask one of my parents to make a donation. I may be new here but I'd hate to see about 20 years of Moonwalker history just disappear like that. Is the $54 needed by the end of the month, as in midnight in the UK on the 30th of April, or before then?
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    I'll chip in. Been here for soo many years. MJJC can not close.

    Come on guys.
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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    Sorry to hear you're still facing challenging times financially beacause of Covid-19. I wish you all the best Gaz.

    Thank you to the few that donate. I really appreciate it.

    Now I have said this before, and will say it again. I really don't understand why this community, with 1379 active members and arround 180 members and 3000 visitors here daily, isn't willing to chip in to keep this place alive. I'ts just one cup of coffee a month from 10% of this community to keep this thing going. If that aint worth it....

    Please people, become a Patreon member.

    In reply to your request Gaz, this community won't go down because of the $ 54,00 needed. I would really like to see others put in some effort to keep this place going. Everyone who can miss a few bucks, please donate this week. By the end of the week Gaz, you can sent me a pm with the balance that's still needs to be paid. I will sent you my paypal adress in reply and you can sent me a payment request for the money still needed.

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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    Just donated!

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    Ok so... we got the balance, thank you to all who helped, you guys are amazing... This issue though still has not gone away, the same will be next month and probably for a few more until I get my working situation back up and running.

    So I have a proposal and it will tackle two things, I am thinking of making this site subscription only, for $1 dollar a month?

    This will be managed through our Patron account which all you do is you sign up and contribute a minimum of $1 per month then you will have posting and messaging privilages, those who do not the forum will only be readable, ie they will not be able to contribute to the community.

    So whats your thoughts on that? It will solve this issue each month, plus any over can be saved up to purchase new forum software and have us migrated (including the 20 years of content) to a brand new state of the art forum platform, like I have alway's said about this place, I am not here to make a profit and never have I, anything over will always be reinvested back into the fan club to make it a better place for all and for Michael.

    btw for the arguement of the free to use sites we don't have advertiser queing at our door to pay for costs they do thus they can make it free at the point of entry, although even the likes fo Facebook now want money from you if you want your page to reach anyone bar the selected few that know about you so even they and all the others want cash to continue.
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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    Might be a stupid question - how can we donate? Happy to chip in a few quid when I can to help keep this place going. :)

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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    I don't think it's a good idea to require payment for posting, I'm afraid it would drive people away make forum activity decline.
    And I think more people would have donated this monther yet if required.


    What is the cost of upgrad forum software ? I always thought forum softwares were free. Oh yes, not vBulletin, right.

    And as you mention Facebook, it's an unclear way to go ... once they favor Pages, later they favor Groups, they ask you to pay to give page visibility, but the truth is that when you pay for ads on Facebook, you get a lot of Likes/Followers who are most bot accounts try to fake regular users behaviours. Also, posts on FB are ephemeral, so it works for people to show off ephemeral things, but it's not as efficient as a forum in term of discussions, informations exchange. + privacy concerns --> I'd keep away from Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dam2040 View Post
    Might be a stupid question - how can we donate? Happy to chip in a few quid when I can to help keep this place going. :)
    There is Donate Now button on the upper right corner of the yellow donate bar under the chatbox:
    https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/forum.php

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    Ok so... we got the balance, thank you to all who helped, you guys are amazing... This issue though still has not gone away, the same will be next month and probably for a few more until I get my working situation back up and running.

    So I have a proposal and it will tackle two things, I am thinking of making this site subscription only, for $1 dollar a month?

    This will be managed through our Patron account which all you do is you sign up and contribute a minimum of $1 per month then you will have posting and messaging privilages, those who do not the forum will only be readable, ie they will not be able to contribute to the community.

    So whats your thoughts on that? It will solve this issue each month, plus any over can be saved up to purchase new forum software and have us migrated (including the 20 years of content) to a brand new state of the art forum platform, like I have alway's said about this place, I am not here to make a profit and never have I, anything over will always be reinvested back into the fan club to make it a better place for all and for Michael.

    btw for the arguement of the free to use sites we don't have advertiser queing at our door to pay for costs they do thus they can make it free at the point of entry, although even the likes fo Facebook now want money from you if you want your page to reach anyone bar the selected few that know about you so even they and all the others want cash to continue.
    I'm not sure if that is a good idea. There might be a lot less people on the forum if it would require a payment. The 2000 Watts section was only for donators at one point and I remember people saying that almost no one posted there then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dam2040 View Post
    Might be a stupid question - how can we donate? Happy to chip in a few quid when I can to help keep this place going. :)
    As above, also the below directly.

    Here - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/mjjcommunity

    Or here - https://www.patreon.com/mjjcommunity
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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    If as many members as possible could voluntarily sign up to $1 a month surely that would be a big help ? Or more if they are able to. I feel sorry for Gaz having this worry every month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisces View Post
    If as many members as possible could voluntarily sign up to $1 a month surely that would be a big help ? Or more if they are able to. I feel sorry for Gaz having this worry every month.
    We've been on quite a few promotional campaigns to try and drum it up via the Patrons program but we've only ever got as far as a third of it.
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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    Last month I donated for years of "1$/month donations" as direct donation. I personally prefer not to use Patreon, but maybe that's just me, I don't do everything like everyone else...

    What's the $ ratio between Patreon and non-Patreon donations?

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    Default Re: Urgent: Balance needed

    Unfortunately the bottom line is that we just don't have enough regular donations to keep the site going month to month. I share the concerns about subscription resulting in activity decline, but at this point we have very few options.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna View Post
    Unfortunately the bottom line is that we just don't have enough regular donations to keep the site going month to month. I share the concerns about subscription resulting in activity decline, but at this point we have very few options.
    As i donate regulary i see the problem on both sides. Most people don't check the monthly donation or just don't care. Sorry, it's simple as that. So many people check the forum - but its only a small group donating. Often we reached the monthly cost only if there ist a urgent call to donate. I also share the concerns with subscription. It's a balancing act. You can't please everybody. Hopefully we will find a way.


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