Donate Now Goal amount for the next month: 187 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)
We need your help...Please if you can help us with our cost's it will be hugely appreciated.

Page 10 of 12 FirstFirst ... 89101112 LastLast
Results 136 to 150 of 170

Thread: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

   
  1. #136
    Points: 29,234, Level: 99
    Level completed: 54%, Points required for next Level: 766
    Overall activity: 32.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran25000 Experience PointsTagger Second ClassOverdrive
    Galactus123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    4,918
    Points
    29,234
    Level
    99
    Thanks
    2,483
    Thanked 3,034 Times in 1,538 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    I haven't watched a HIStory Tour show entirely in well over 5 years, there's nothing that attracts me back to it.
    When I last watched one, I think it was Helsinki, I was looking at my phone, not really paying attention to it. I hate to say it but I turned it off after Dangerous
    There's moments of magic but that pales in comparison to Bad and Dangerous were almost both shows were 2 hours of magic
    You can see Michael's heart isn't in it like it was in previous tours
    Biggest issue is the lip-syncing. You are just hearing the album vocals so it gets boring.
    A Film Release Of Michael Jacksons Bad Tour 1988/89 Petition. Please sign so we can get Bad Tour in HD:

    https://www.change.org/p/the-michael...d-tour-1988-89

    #MJBadTourHD

  2. #137
    Points: 73,114, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 45.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    South Wales
    Posts
    7,844
    Points
    73,114
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    2,231
    Thanked 8,843 Times in 2,832 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    For In The Closer on the HIStory Tour, Michael definitely should have pre-recorded new speaking vocals for him to lip sync to. I always hated how he'd go from a deep, out of breath speaking voice into perfect falsetto vocals.

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to analogue For This Useful Post:


  4. #138
    Points: 14,582, Level: 78
    Level completed: 33%, Points required for next Level: 268
    Overall activity: 59.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassVeteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Liverpool
    Posts
    1,588
    Points
    14,582
    Level
    78
    Thanks
    6,183
    Thanked 1,633 Times in 778 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    For In The Closer on the HIStory Tour, Michael definitely should have pre-recorded new speaking vocals for him to lip sync to. I always hated how he'd go from a deep, out of breath speaking voice into perfect falsetto vocals.
    Yeah I would have enjoyed the show more if he rerecorded vocals for some of the songs or even used alternative vocal takes and pitched them down slightly. Although I'm always grateful of the legacy Mike left us

    I feel the same Galactus123 mate. Apologies I don't want to double post again

  5. #139
    Points: 8,298, Level: 61
    Level completed: 50%, Points required for next Level: 152
    Overall activity: 59.0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveVeteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    1,750
    Points
    8,298
    Level
    61
    Thanks
    867
    Thanked 1,433 Times in 755 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    As the last few posts are about History Tour, here are my issues with that particular tour, in particular the set list.

    - I am not the biggest fan of the medley. I think Scream as a solo performance doesn't work. It would have been better if it was performed as one off performance with Janet at some award show. I don't particularly like the solo performance.
    - In The Closet felt out of place in that medley. I wish Michael had performed They Don't Care About Us as a full song, as I like the performance of that song.
    - After the release of BOTDF and Ghosts, Michael should have added songs like 2Bad and Ghosts into the setlist for the 97 shows. I would have loved to see the 2Bad choreography live on stage. Ghosts & Is It Scary should have replaced Thriller, as the later song was boring live by that point, in my opinion.
    - Heal The World should have been dropped. After the release of Earth Song, there was no reason to keep on doing Heal The World. It wasn't some mega hit that he had to do it live always.
    - It's criminal that MITM was dropped and Heal the World wasn't. History Tour felt incomplete with MITM and ending the shows with History just felt really flat. MITM was the perfect concert closer at both Bad and Dangerous Tours.

  6. #140
    Points: 14,582, Level: 78
    Level completed: 33%, Points required for next Level: 268
    Overall activity: 59.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassVeteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Liverpool
    Posts
    1,588
    Points
    14,582
    Level
    78
    Thanks
    6,183
    Thanked 1,633 Times in 778 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    Not writing more of the songs on Invincible
    as good as the album is, it doesn't feel like a MJ record to me

    Not performing Give In To Me on the Dangerous Tour

    I can't think of any others right now, if I'm honest I'm pretty satisfied with most of Mike's choices career wise. He got an awful lot more right than he did wrong

  7. #141
    Points: 12,190, Level: 72
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 260
    Overall activity: 50.0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveVeteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    1,334
    Points
    12,190
    Level
    72
    Thanks
    401
    Thanked 790 Times in 393 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    As the last few posts are about History Tour, here are my issues with that particular tour, in particular the set list.

    - I am not the biggest fan of the medley. I think Scream as a solo performance doesn't work. It would have been better if it was performed as one off performance with Janet at some award show. I don't particularly like the solo performance.
    - In The Closet felt out of place in that medley. I wish Michael had performed They Don't Care About Us as a full song, as I like the performance of that song.
    - After the release of BOTDF and Ghosts, Michael should have added songs like 2Bad and Ghosts into the setlist for the 97 shows. I would have loved to see the 2Bad choreography live on stage. Ghosts & Is It Scary should have replaced Thriller, as the later song was boring live by that point, in my opinion.
    - Heal The World should have been dropped. After the release of Earth Song, there was no reason to keep on doing Heal The World. It wasn't some mega hit that he had to do it live always.
    - It's criminal that MITM was dropped and Heal the World wasn't. History Tour felt incomplete with MITM and ending the shows with History just felt really flat. MITM was the perfect concert closer at both Bad and Dangerous Tours.
    Mitm is much of a change as victory is to first leg to bad

    Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk

  8. #142
    Points: 12,936, Level: 74
    Level completed: 22%, Points required for next Level: 314
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    255
    Points
    12,936
    Level
    74
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 91 Times in 31 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic decisions in Michael Jackson’s career that can be considered wrong or bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels Lover View Post
    Lol they were charity concerts
    Didn't know it was for charity...well that explains why it wasn't that great...it was free.

  9. #143
    Points: 37,541, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 32.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranTagger First Class25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Sweden (Sverige)
    Posts
    5,587
    Points
    37,541
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    6,722
    Thanked 5,218 Times in 2,177 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic decisions in Michael Jackson’s career that can be considered wrong or bad

    Quote Originally Posted by datblackboi08 View Post
    Didn't know it was for charity...well that explains why it wasn't that great...it was free.
    Imo the MJ and friends concerts were the last performances where MJ seemed like himself. His voice was even better there than on the History Tour.

  10. #144
    Points: 12,515, Level: 73
    Level completed: 17%, Points required for next Level: 335
    Overall activity: 22.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    1,036
    Points
    12,515
    Level
    73
    Thanks
    147
    Thanked 402 Times in 159 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic decisions in Michael Jackson’s career that can be considered wrong or bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Themidwestcowboy View Post
    Imo the MJ and friends concerts were the last performances where MJ seemed like himself. His voice was even better there than on the History Tour.
    His voice? MJ and Friends shows were fully 100% lipsynced...

  11. #145
    Points: 46,018, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 18.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranOverdrive25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    11,085
    Points
    46,018
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    1,533
    Thanked 3,927 Times in 1,714 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic decisions in Michael Jackson’s career that can be considered wrong or bad

    Quote Originally Posted by lubyss View Post
    His voice? MJ and Friends shows were fully 100% lipsynced...
    And that again was an artistic decisions that is questionable...


    Should have sung live when it's such a short concert.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Ahess/videos - me dancing MJ - many years ago. :)

    I would be really glad if you rated or/and commented the videos. Thanks

  12. #146
    Points: 7,360, Level: 57
    Level completed: 5%, Points required for next Level: 190
    Overall activity: 32.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    125
    Points
    7,360
    Level
    57
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 61 Times in 21 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    Not to retire after the bad tour so that his subsequent endeavours weren’t subject to heavy criticism.

    We really are a tough crowd the please..

  13. #147
    Points: 9,872, Level: 66
    Level completed: 56%, Points required for next Level: 178
    Overall activity: 27.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    870
    Points
    9,872
    Level
    66
    Thanks
    216
    Thanked 363 Times in 128 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    Quote Originally Posted by SeeingVoices View Post
    Not to retire after the bad tour so that his subsequent endeavours weren’t subject to heavy criticism.

    We really are a tough crowd the please..
    I can't imagine how insane Michael's legacy would be if he had retired in 1989. He would literally have been treated as a god on earth.

  14. #148
    Points: 24,783, Level: 95
    Level completed: 44%, Points required for next Level: 567
    Overall activity: 36.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsOverdriveVeteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    3,593
    Points
    24,783
    Level
    95
    Thanks
    2,201
    Thanked 5,164 Times in 1,950 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    On the one hand, retiring in 1989 would’ve left Michael with arguably the greatest musical legacy of all time. It also might’ve saved his life, given that he wouldn’t have met the Chandlers or Arvizos.

    But at the same time, we would’ve been deprived some of his best songs (“Will You Be There,” “Stranger in Moscow,” “Morphine”). Selfish, for sure, but come on.

  15. #149
    Points: 46,018, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 18.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranOverdrive25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    11,085
    Points
    46,018
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    1,533
    Thanked 3,927 Times in 1,714 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic Decisions in Michael Jackson's Career That Are Questionable

    For a lot of obvious selfish reasons I am very very happy MJ did not retire in 1989...

    My favorite songs are nearly all released after 1989 - I got to see MJ live on his birthday in Copenhagen 1997, Dangerous the album - and tour - was amazing. The HIStory album with so many timeless classics, the Ghosts movie...

    BUT - I do agree, that had MJ retired a lot would have been different - and most importantly, he would probably still be alive.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Ahess/videos - me dancing MJ - many years ago. :)

    I would be really glad if you rated or/and commented the videos. Thanks

  16. #150
    Points: 37,541, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 32.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranTagger First Class25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Sweden (Sverige)
    Posts
    5,587
    Points
    37,541
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    6,722
    Thanked 5,218 Times in 2,177 Posts

    Default Re: Artistic decisions in Michael Jackson’s career that can be considered wrong or bad

    Quote Originally Posted by lubyss View Post
    His voice? MJ and Friends shows were fully 100% lipsynced...
    He sang the last part of YANA live and there is footage of him rehearsing she’s out of my life fully live. His voice was much, much stronger than it was on the history tour and subsequent performances.

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •