wayne and the other older generation lol of bodyguards still took real efford in letting fans give presents to mj or talk to him shortly from time to time i sure m iss the old days cry
well then you're not talking about security in general but about the specific situation after the trial. Kerry walked right next to Michael into the courtroom every day during the trial. No other bodyguard of Michaels has ever gotten that much exposure to the press and the general public.
I'm positive this has nothing to do with why Wayne retired. He was never a known face to the press or general public, just to a small group of fans / followers. And that wasn't a problem for many years, and it wouldn't have been a problem in 2001 either.
There were health issues. Thta's why he retired.
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wayne and the other older generation lol of bodyguards still took real efford in letting fans give presents to mj or talk to him shortly from time to time i sure m iss the old days cry
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awww wayne seem like he was da bizzness lol. and im sorry about that jerk yelling @ you.
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funny what some of you write...every BG in that group, in that era had their unique image
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that happens as they were "out and about a lot" during a tours...
some of them "portrayed" a kind image...someone had to be the "bad guy"))...but someone had to say no!
))) and he had the name for it
a name that scared everyone
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Salute all those great guys for all the great work they all have done!
I found this...
"December 7, 2002
Michael's Reasons for Absence from Court are Declared Justified
Michael Jackson missed a second day of court on Friday 6th December for medical reasons.
The Santa Maria Times of 7th December reveals that when the Judge announced Michael's absence on Thursday 5th December, it was Mr. Avram's attorney, Louis Miller, who asked for an independent medical evaluation to take place. The judge agreed to this, giving Mr. Miler a choice between three physicians.
The medical examination occurred on Friday morning, after which the judge, Mr. Miller and Michael's attorneys, Steve Cochran and Zia Madabber, gathered in Judge Zel Canter's chambers for a conference call with the physician.
Judge Zel Canter then announced that Michael has indeed had a "medical condition" since the beginning of the trial brought against him by tour promoter Marcel Avram over what he claims was Michael's cancellation of two millennium concerts.
Mr. Miller later told reporters that the judge seems to think it is a spider bite, as Michael had previously said. Meanwhile, Mr. Cochran said he was not at liberty to speak about Michael's medical condition, but that there were "bona fide reasons he could not be in court."
The case continued without Michael. Mr. Avram gave testimony and Wayne Nagin, Michael's former Head of Security and business aide, continued his testimony too. Mr. Nagin supports Michael's statement that it was actually Mr. Avram who cancelled the millennium shows.
However, Mr. Nagin said Michael was in New York City on 6th and 7th October at a time when Michael had said he thought he was in California. This is the time that Michael had said that he received a telephone call from Mr. Avram canceling the two millennium concerts.
Mr. Avram said that Mr. Nagin, and another business representative, told him about the same time that Michael would not plan the concerts.
Mr. Nagin testified that he was at the meeting on 6th or 7th October when Mr. Avram canceled the shows himself.
The trial resumes on Tuesday 10th December and after a break on Wednesday 11th December, will continue on Thursday 12th December until Friday 20th December. A Christmas break will then follow until the New Year."
"The paper also reported on the calling to the witness stand of Wanye Nagin by Mr. Miller. Mr. Nagin is Michael's former head of security and business partner. Although he left Michael's employment on 5th September 2001 to retire, Mr. Nagin testified he was a "a close friend, loyal all the way."
http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/newsdec02.html
They're was very close also...
Wayne did his job well, he was always quite moody but a great body guard.
He just retired, there wasn't any problems between him and mj
Yes, of course, Mello.They're should be friends.
Wayne was the best Michael's body guard...I love him...
That is so true... he had his good moods too, though.
He was very close with Michael. One time during the HIStory tour, I was talking to Wayne in the hotel lobby, and Michael called him on his cell phone. I was like :swoon: and kept reallllly quiet while they were speaking... lol. Wayne talked to Michael like brothers do, you know. Not like you'd talk to your 'boss' at all. I thought that was great.
Btw... still wondering if Wayne is related to mayor Nagin of New Orleans, does anyone know?
When you reach the heart of life you shall find beauty in all things, even in the eyes that are blind to beauty.
- Khalil Gibran
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
I don't know Kerry, I think....or I'm not sure..what does he look like? I'm not really familiar with the names of the new bodyguards....it seems like these days they just come and go. Wayne was there for years but now it seems every time MJ goes out he has a different bodyguard with him.Besides....I haven't really been "around MJ" (=MJ events or any place MJ was) since 2002-3, so I haven't really seen or met any of the bodyguards either...
The only two "new" bodyguards (who don't work for MJ anymore to my knowledge..) that I have experienced were Mike and the gray haired guy who was working for MJ at the same time with Mike in London 2002 (no idea what the other guy's name was...). I was at MJ's hotel and I had presents for Michael and the two of them came out (this was the night before the demo...MJ was in the hotel then) and I saw them and I walked up to them because I wanted to ask them if they could give the presents I had to Michael....And I was next to them and was like "Excuse me, Sir..." but they completely ignored me, so again, I was like "Excuse me...Sir.....Sir...excuse me"....but they just kept ignoring me, so I just walked away.I mean, I didn't dare to tap them on their arm or anything because i thought they'll punch me if I touch them, so that's why I kept saying "excuse me sir"...but either they were deaf...or just rude. :mello: I was finally able to give the presents to a security guard from the hotel though the day after the demo. So I hope MJ got all the presents. Since my friend and I had no place to stay in London, we stayed in front of MJ's hotel all night (because we figured that would be the safest place to be in the middle of the night). So around 2-3 am this one security guard came out and we chatted with him for probably an hour or so. :lol: He was really nice and we just talked about everything with him and had a really great conversation actually. Kind of unexpected to have a great convo with some security guard in the middle of the night in front of some hotel in London!
We talked about music, hobbies, our studies, jobs...you name it! :lol: He said he was into opera and loved to ride his motorcycle on his free time and he had a daughter, etc....He was cool. And he told us MJ was extremely nice and polite and the security guard told me that I should give the presents to the hotel security during the day and they'll give them to MJ's bodyguards. He said that it was MJ's orders...but he also said that security does check all the presents first, and if it's something "inappropriate"...MJ will never see it. Anyways, that security guard from the hotel was cool. Very nice. And it was great to be able to chat with him for so long because we were REALLY tired so it made the time go by a bit faster.
I can remember MJ calling Teddy (Lakin) in Munich 1999. :lol: Teddy was out in front of the hotel and talking to fans and then his phone rang and he was like "Shhh...it's Michael!"....and the fans started yelling "HIIIIIIIII MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!! WE LOOOOOVE YOU!!! WHOOOHOOO!!!!! MIKE; YOU'RE THE BEST", etc....so that Teddy wasn't able to hear a thing: :lol: It was pretty funny. :lol:
No idea if Wayne's related to that "other Nagin".![]()
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I have only seen him on fotos - he seems to be a kind person. While reading this thread I am asking myself if Basheer is still thereHe is such a cool and nice man .
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he supposedly was let go.
ive always wondered that. isnt wayne from N.O thats what i heard. is nagin a common name? i havnt heard of it muchBtw... still wondering if Wayne is related to mayor Nagin of New Orleans, does anyone know?
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things change...the old bunch was a really really friendly environment....but it had to be..they were on tour, you have to talk to people sooner or later f your are on a plane like for 8-9hours...twice a week...with the same group of people..
I think Salute to the BGs and lets not forget MR. B.B himself, what a great guy he was! RIP!
On a similar note, back when Wayne was bodyguard there was a tall black guy with a bald head named Yannick, I think it was?? Anyone know what happened to him, and have any fans got any good/bad stories about him?
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