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    Default Re: MJ's a "businessman"?

    It's common knowledge that Michael is a very savvy businessman.

    He didn't get where he was today w/out being involved w/various business ventures. Michael has his hands in many money pots
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    Michael couldn't have gotten to the place where he is professionally, if he wasn't educated in the business world.

    Rest in peace, Michael. Teach the angels to moonwalk.


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    personally i think mj has great foresight with things such as the music publishing showing you that. but i dont believe hes a good bizman in the practical sense of the word like his qc said in the bahrain case

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    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    personally i think mj has great foresight with things such as the music publishing showing you that. but i dont believe hes a good bizman in the practical sense of the word like his qc said in the bahrain case
    Exactly. Like I said he knew a LITTLE something about business when it came to MUSIC PUBLISHING (stocks on other artists' publishing and merging with a major label) and how to BENEFIT from music (commercials, tours, etc) but when it came to other things especially "music contracts" and other endeavors. He didn't do so hot:

    Remember his perfume?
    Remember his soda brand?
    Remember him planning other amusement parks?
    Remember him planning casinos?
    Remember his musical label?

    Uh...yeah.

    He's a GOOD businessman but I don't think it's something "underrated" anymore.


    "OK, first of all, I have this skin disorder that destroys the pigmentation of the skin. It's something that I cannot help. Okay? But when people make up stories that I don't wanna be what I am, it hurts me. It's a problem for me, okay? I can't control it. But let's reverse it. What about all the millions of people who sit out in the sun to become other than what they are?" -- Michael Jackson (1993)

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    Of course! that's how he made so much money .
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    Quote Originally Posted by troubleman84 View Post
    Exactly. Like I said he knew a LITTLE something about business when it came to MUSIC PUBLISHING (stocks on other artists' publishing and merging with a major label) and how to BENEFIT from music (commercials, tours, etc) but when it came to other things especially "music contracts" and other endeavors. He didn't do so hot:

    Remember his perfume?
    Remember his soda brand?
    Remember him planning other amusement parks?
    Remember him planning casinos?
    Remember his musical label?

    Uh...yeah.

    He's a GOOD businessman but I don't think it's something "underrated" anymore.

    well..i think there will always be varying opinions on his business acumen. suffice it to say, people seem to have very high opinions of everybody in business who is wealthy...except michael jackson..and he's been around longer in his business than most of them...and looks a lot younger too. lol

    also...there seems to be more eagreness to know about MJ's business affairs than there is to know about anyone else's in the world, for some reason. i don't know why that is...

    and...i'm sure MJ operates like anyone else in the business world, but somehow a negative light is shone upon his operation, while a positive light is shone upon most if not everybody else's operation of the same type. i mean, he is doing it like anyone else but for some people, they look at his with the glass half empty, and other wealthy people are looked at with the glass half full for doing the same thing. and yet, a lot of those people who were looked at with the glass half full, end up falling off the radar, while MJ is still in business. and, people assume, just because u never hear of Oprah or Gates, or somebody on the front page of Forbes, that they must be doing well all the time. yet, people try to get advice from those others, and fail, and..well...now there are ads on the radio saying that no matter who u get ur advice from, there are great risks involved, and nobody seems confident anymore. and IMO, they'd like to believe Michael is losing confidence too. but he keeps on smiling, and he keeps on going like Energizer. so..to me..something is wrong with that pic. something's not right with trying to believe he's in trouble all the time. and so..i can certainly understand why rules are made to not discuss his affairs on these forums. it seems to be such a lightning rod, moreso than with anyone else who is in business.
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    That may be true and all of that but God, Michael started many things that didn't work at the end. Sure he was confident it'll work but it didn't. :P


    "OK, first of all, I have this skin disorder that destroys the pigmentation of the skin. It's something that I cannot help. Okay? But when people make up stories that I don't wanna be what I am, it hurts me. It's a problem for me, okay? I can't control it. But let's reverse it. What about all the millions of people who sit out in the sun to become other than what they are?" -- Michael Jackson (1993)

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    Quote Originally Posted by troubleman84 View Post
    That may be true and all of that but God, Michael started many things that didn't work at the end. Sure he was confident it'll work but it didn't. :P
    who hasn't? lol...it's just a glorified version of finding ur niche. being a mogul....growing up and going to college and finding a major and finding out u found the wrong major....etc. etc.

    it's like people being asked what do u wanna be when u grow up, and people giving an answer that they find out later in life, they were wrong about. it's like people being asked the same question and then saying..'i don't know.' the thing is, i'm sure that gates, winfrey, and many others did the same thing, and missed just as many times. or more. but the only one u hear about is MJ. that does not mean they aren't any less sterlingly successful. Tiger Woods just lost a giant endorsement with General Motors. does that make him any less successful or wealthy? i don't think so. i hear the sportscasters saying...'i don't think tiger will be any less able to feed his kids.' why can't they end up with the same postive soundbyte for Michael? this seeming give and take is as old as dirt with ALL wealthy people. that doesn't mean the cashflow is lessening.
    In Love of Money Land(Branca,sony,mainstream media), it's always a pride and snowy day.

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    DUH he's a business... I mean yes he's a business man, lemme be nice. He'd be sittin around broke somewhere if he weren't; point blank.

    Ain't nuthin' wrong with taking a chance, but damn you so mysterious!

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    i don´t know much about his business activities..he´s made several great steps (like buying the catalogue)..but sometimes his financial problems (that we read about so often - even in non-tabloid papers) make me question his business abilities..

    anyway, i believe he´s very inteligent and probably his biggest asset was that many people underrated his business mind..

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    Well,
    once I believd all those press things which said MJ wil loose this and that, he is without money,etc...
    but I stop to believe in it since none of what they said became true.
    I think MJ is a savvy businessman, but since 2003 he has been sorruonded by other problems which kept his mind far away fom his biz, and during that period he trusted some people who actually used his money and never worked for him.
    That's it, now I see him whealthy and rich, having a big share in the catalog industry since he owns his own calatog along with many others catalogs of balck music (like the family stone's one) and half of the ATV Catalog, plus he has big deal wth Sony BMG going on and he owns several houses.
    Media don't say other big name n the music biz have been sued by their own labels, that they lost milion and million in their career just trying to have their own personal music company and so on...media simply don't report that. There some big names out there who recently signed for live nation, and everyone is talking about how whealthy they are, forgetting they signed for LiveNation after being sued, after they lost so much money.

    I think the financial problem of 2003-05 are long gone. Now is time to come with a great album and enjoy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troubleman84 View Post
    That may be true and all of that but God, Michael started many things that didn't work at the end. Sure he was confident it'll work but it didn't. :P
    That happens to all business men
    Im sure trump also had many ventures that didnt work out as planned
    "But Nothing ventured Nothing gained" as the saying goes _ you fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by soniamaria View Post
    but sometimes his financial problems (that we read about so often - even in non-tabloid papers) make me question his business abilities.
    We don't actually know what the deal is with Michael's finances, just because non tabloid papers print the stories, that doesn't make them more or less valid than tabloids. Most non tabloids are often owned by the same publishing campanies as tabloids, ie The Times is owned by News International who also own The Sun and other tabloids, and that company is owned by Rubert Murdoch who owns Fox News, who employ Roger Friedman.

    Maybe he's own personal wealth is fine and his business ie publishing companies aren't generating as much as they have done. Many business such as banks borrow money. I presume Michael may have borrowed money doing various business deals on with the money from his publishing companies/assets, not his own personal saving he uses for living and providing for his children.

    I think like Paul McCartney who introduced Michael to music publishing (as acknowledged by Michael in his autobiography Moonwalk), that Michael is more of an intutive business man than one with an A to Z masterplan. Paul McCartney has remained independant as a business man, and Michael has merged one of his publishing business ATV with Sony, making Michael major player in music publishing business which comes with huge amount of money making and a hugh risk. We already know Michael made some eniemes within Sony who wanted to oust him from Sony/ATV, and as Michael said in 2002 that "the artist out smarted Sony" and they didn't like it. And like you said, be biggest asset Michael has is that people properly under estimate his business mind.

    I'm not to sure if Michael has any other business's outside music such as property and land etc (I think their was a Neverland Valley business of farming or something ?). But I think Michael is quite an astute business man, at least in music publishing. If Michael does have any falings, it maybe for being to trusting of the people he employs such as accountants and lawyers, who may be partly responisble for any financial problems Michael may "alledgedly" have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troubleman84 View Post

    Remember his perfume?
    Perfume??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnj1985 View Post
    Perfume??
    I think he released some kind of perfume...or cologne during the HIStory tour.


    "OK, first of all, I have this skin disorder that destroys the pigmentation of the skin. It's something that I cannot help. Okay? But when people make up stories that I don't wanna be what I am, it hurts me. It's a problem for me, okay? I can't control it. But let's reverse it. What about all the millions of people who sit out in the sun to become other than what they are?" -- Michael Jackson (1993)

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