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    Quote Originally Posted by snowhite View Post
    yes she has a potty mouth I really don't know what MJ saw in her
    she also said once that she likes to drink and in another interview she said that MJ was just one of her 14 relationships :worried: and that was before she met her current husband
    they do say opposites attract
    I still wish he could have ended up with someone like Elizabeth Taylor. Yeah there was an age difference but really? Does that always have to matter? But someone like Elizabeth Taylor would have been perfect for Michael I believe. She knew how to tell him no but she also knew how to comfort him and let him be himself.
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    I don't hate LMP. But I don't like her very much either.

    I think hate is such a strong word. But I have said it in anger before, but when I reflect back on it I know that hating someone doesn't serve any positive purpose. When you hate anyone you really are giving the devil a piece of your soul. That is the way I see it, it only apply's to me. Not trying to preach to the public here. IMO for me.

    I am sure the person that Michael is/was, he forgave her. And HE MOVED ON. In some sense the moving on part is the biggest revenge, right?

    I mean she's the one that was sending letters, cozying up with Katherine..... but then later publicly bashing him when she didn't get what she wanted. PATHETIC really. People want to excuse her actions by saying MJ was immature. Give me a break. MJ wasn't perfect and it takes two to fail a marriage.

    I don't feel sorry for her or have any empathy for her grief.

    I have empathy for MJ3, the fans, liz, family, and actual friends.

    Now if she were to ever publicly say that she apologized to Michael for the 3 show tour bashing... then I will be her biggest supporter. But we'll never see this happen because I doubt she ever apologized to him. I hope I am wrong.

    Betraying Michael with the whole promise of children and then backing out was LOW.

    Then bashing him... when it was the POPULAR thing to do.... like picking on a kid on the school ground just because others were.... that was LOW.

    So whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjjfan4ever View Post
    I don't hate LMP. But I don't like her very much either.

    I think hate is such a strong word. But I have said it in anger before, but when I reflect back on it I know that hating someone doesn't serve any positive purpose. When you hate anyone you really are giving the devil a piece of your soul. That is the way I see it, it only apply's to me. Not trying to preach to the public here. IMO for me.

    I am sure the person that Michael is/was, he forgave her. And HE MOVED ON. In some sense the moving on part is the biggest revenge, right?

    I mean she's the one that was sending letters, cozying up with Katherine..... but then later publicly bashing him when she didn't get what she wanted. PATHETIC really. People want to excuse her actions by saying MJ was immature. Give me a break. MJ wasn't perfect and it takes two to fail a marriage.

    I don't feel sorry for her or have any empathy for her grief.

    I have empathy for MJ3, the fans, liz, family, and actual friends.

    Now if she were to ever publicly say that she apologized to Michael for the 3 show tour bashing... then I will be her biggest supporter. But we'll never see this happen because I doubt she ever apologized to him. I hope I am wrong.

    Betraying Michael with the whole promise of children and then backing out was LOW.

    Then bashing him... when it was the POPULAR thing to do.... like picking on a kid on the school ground just because others were.... that was LOW.

    So whatever.

    couldn't have said it better myself!
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    I agree that he moved on and was the mature one in the relationship. he was ALWAYS the mature one between the two of them, even though he was playful. playfulness does not = immaturity, but many, many people mistook his childlike sense of play as immaturity. a shame, really.

    as for LMP, I think she hasn't moved on. she's still hung up on the guy. that's what must hurt so much. I feel for her and at times I do feel a bit flummoxed as to her intentions when she was bashing him so much, but I am not going to judge her. I think Michael did hurt her, but she hurt him in the first place. he's not one to hurt someone he loves just for the fun of it. something she did pissed him off to a degree that he had to leave her for weeks on end and not be in touch with her. I think we know what it was. but it's all history now. now, Lisa has to live with it because he's done. he's free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indranee View Post
    I agree that he moved on and was the mature one in the relationship. he was ALWAYS the mature one between the two of them, even though he was playful. playfulness does not = immaturity, but many, many people mistook his childlike sense of play as immaturity. a shame, really.

    as for LMP, I think she hasn't moved on. she's still hung up on the guy. that's what must hurt so much. I feel for her and at times I do feel a bit flummoxed as to her intentions when she was bashing him so much, but I am not going to judge her. I think Michael did hurt her, but she hurt him in the first place. he's not one to hurt someone he loves just for the fun of it. something she did pissed him off to a degree that he had to leave her for weeks on end and not be in touch with her. I think we know what it was. but it's all history now. now, Lisa has to live with it because he's done. he's free.
    agree
    I always thought that she must have done something to really irk him to make him leave for that long because I don't think he would have just got up and left her for that long of a time if things between them were going wonderfully. We've never really seen him mad before but I guess when you did tick him off you were well out of his life for a while.
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    I really dont like her. In my opinion, when you are in love with someone, you don't leave them in their darkest hour. You are there to share the good times and the bad times, not to enjoy the good times and leave when things get too hard for you. She broke Michael's heart. And it makes me cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Billie Jean* View Post
    I really dont like her. In my opinion, when you are in love with someone, you don't leave them in their darkest hour. You are there to share the good times and the bad times, not to enjoy the good times and leave when things get too hard for you. She broke Michael's heart. And it makes me cry.
    aww :better:
    That's one of the main reasons why I don't like her. She broke the heart of the man we all love, and honestly one of the greatest men to have ever been on this earth. She knew what she had but she didn't act like it and she abused it. I just couldn't imagine being someone who's in a bad relationship but wants love so bad and than sees someone they love like Michael get hurt by her knowing that if they were with him , they would have never hurt him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmoon20 View Post
    they do say opposites attract
    Michael mentioned the same thing when he spoke with the rabbi, that he knows people say opposites attract but that he realized he wants someone like him
    in my opinion I think he married Lisa too fast without knowing her well enough that's why he got disappointed in the end. people need to get to know each other REALLY well before they get married

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowhite View Post
    Michael mentioned the same thing when he spoke with the rabbi, that he knows people say opposites attract but that he realized he wants someone like him
    in my opinion I think he married Lisa too fast without knowing her well enough that's why he got disappointed in the end. people need to get to know each other REALLY well before they get married
    You all are making really good points.

    I really wish the world wasn't so bent out of shape over people with large age gaps between them getting together. I mean when they're adults. I believe him and Elizabeth Taylor would have been wonderful together, I remember somewhere I believe he said that they thought about becoming romantically involved but they knew the press would have a field day and beat them up about it so they decided just to stay friends.

    So basically what I'm learning is that Michael didn't really ever forgive her for what happened, and she got upset because he wouldn't take her back which is one of the reasons why she kept bashing him and now that he's gone she's really hurting because she still loves him but knows that it won't come to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmoon20 View Post
    aww :better:
    That's one of the main reasons why I don't like her. She broke the heart of the man we all love, and honestly one of the greatest men to have ever been on this earth. She knew what she had but she didn't act like it and she abused it. I just couldn't imagine being someone who's in a bad relationship but wants love so bad and than sees someone they love like Michael get hurt by her knowing that if they were with him , they would have never hurt him.
    Yeah. He was a good man to her and she took advantage of him! She knew he wanted kids. She promised Michael kids after they got married and then she didnt want kids after that.. so I guess she did trick him. Lisa just wanted to be married to the King of Pop. I don't think she loved him enough. Okay, dont like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmoon20 View Post
    Before you read on please be advised. If you are a LMP fan or you don't like rude things said about her please DON'T come to this thread!

    Lately I've have strong feelings towards her and I just wanted to make a thread for people who just wanted to vent their feelings about her without having to argue with her fans. I don't mean to be rude but I just can't keep these feelings in any longer. I honestly can't stand her and want to be able to have a discussion or something civilized so people can just vent.

    I really hate the fact that she broke MJ's heart and after all she said in interviews she finally comes out after he's gone to say she's sorry and try to make amends. I may forgive her later on but right now I'm just full of anger. I get sick and angry just by looking at pictures of her kissing him, it just makes me think of how much she hurt him and betrayed him.

    So if you would like to vent about your feelings than feel free but please don't say anything too harsh or use any fowl language. I don't want this to be a thread that has to be shut down but I wanted to make a thread like I said for people like me who felt they needed to be able to talk to others about their feelings without having to argue with people.


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    If this is not allowed please just lock it or delete it. I really don't want to get banned from this forum I just wanted somewhere where I could vent without fowl language or too harsh of words being said
    Why you acted like MJ was the victim? He was not the victim. No, I don't think LMP was the victim as well. Well, LMP broke MJ's heart. MJ broke LMP's heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Billie Jean* View Post
    Yeah. He was a good man to her and she took advantage of him! She knew he wanted kids. She promised Michael kids after they got married and then she didnt want kids after that.. so I guess she did trick him. Lisa just wanted to be married to the King of Pop. I don't think she loved him enough. Okay, dont like her.
    She didn't. I don't understand why people have to twist everything though. They say Michael didn't love her enough, when we know he did. When Michael loves someone than he really loves them. If he was the kind of person they say he was than he wouldn't have done what he did, he wouldn't have taken the time out to help little Farcus out. I mean if I was married to someone who would do that, mean I would never let them go!
    People say he wanted to be with her because she was the daughter of Elvis... pahLEASE! I'm not saying anything bad about Elvis, but Michael is just as big...well bigger than Elvis. When he married Lisa it was because he loved her. I would say he didn't marry just because, he married for love but I don't know about Debbie Rowe, I heard he just married her because he loved her as a friend, and because she was pregnant with his child, but that he didn't love her like that.
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    I don't like. I never have. Maybe there's something wrong with me, but that's how I feel.

    I don't think she deserved, appreciated, respected or even truly LOVED him. I just don't.
    I don't like her attitude, I don't like the way she talks in interviews. She got VERY VERY LUCKY, had the best man in the world......and she ruined it!

    Sorry, but that's how I feel. And I don't feel sorry for her mourning or grieving now either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jackson Moonwalk View Post
    I don't like. I never have. Maybe there's something wrong with me, but that's how I feel.

    I don't think she deserved, appreciated, respected or even truly LOVED him. I just don't.
    I don't like her attitude, I don't like the way she talks in interviews. She got VERY VERY LUCKY, had the best man in the world......and she ruined it!

    Sorry, but that's how I feel. And I don't feel sorry for her mourning or grieving now either.


    and swirl o I felt he was the victim. Yes it takes two to break a marriage but if you were married and before you were even married your spouse promised you something as huge as children than when you got married they backed out and during the marriage when you tried to do the good works you already did and your spouse calls you stupid because of it , well are you the victim? I know he left her for long periods at a time but we know MJ was sensitive, he probably needed to get away from her negativity and just get back to his senses.
    He didn't bash her, she bashed him. I know Michael wasn't a saint and he had his problems but Lisa knew how he was, and she shouldn't have ticked him off like that.
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    Im sorry but if she was true Michael's TRUE soulmate they would've been together through thick and thin and would never leave his side and always be there for him and give him all the love. She never said any good things about him after the divorce while Michael to my knowledge never said anything bad about her. No, I just don't accept her, like her...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jackson Moonwalk View Post
    I don't like. I never have. Maybe there's something wrong with me, but that's how I feel.

    I don't think she deserved, appreciated, respected or even truly LOVED him. I just don't.
    I don't like her attitude, I don't like the way she talks in interviews. She got VERY VERY LUCKY, had the best man in the world......and she ruined it!

    Sorry, but that's how I feel. And I don't feel sorry for her mourning or grieving now either.
    I couldn't agree more.

    I love you Michael

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